The CW's Crisis on Infinite Earths |OT| You Have Failed This Multiversity

raYne_07

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FaceHugger

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Rewatched the final episodes as I kind of fell asleep my first viewing. I think my favorite cameo was Constantine going to

Lucifer

For help. As soon as he walked up to the door I just knew who was going to be on the other side. Their rapport was great, too.
 

Jason Frost

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Me after watching Crisis on Infinite Earths:

So, now Lyla gave birth to Sara in October 2014, but also to John Diggle Jr. in November 2014...

Wait, how does work? lol

 
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raYne_07

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Yeah, pre-Crisis stuff doesn't matter anymore. Could be twins, could be a year apart, one could be adopted, yadda yadda.
 

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Really sucks that this happens. Any future crossover is going to be screwed, especially if Sky don't pick up Superman & Lois or Green Arrow & The Canaries (should it get picked up).

I don't pirate but this situation made me tempted. Instead I just bought them on iTunes with my US account.
From *mysterious sources* afaik Sky are not going to be picking up any future DC shows in the near future.

E4 will also be showing the Harley Quinn series from DCU in the UK, and Starz UK have picked up Doom Patrol.
 

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From *mysterious sources* afaik Sky are not going to be picking up any future DC shows in the near future.
Oh goodo, any future crossover will be a pain.

I may just start grabbing them off iTunes US as they run...get the season passes. It's a bit costly, but really it would be no more costly than getting STARZ, Sky, Netflix, Amazon and every other thing as it will split around
 

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I know this was obvious for a long time, but I would like to reiterate that we're never going to get any scenes with Ollie Queen and Hal Jordan now. 😭
 

Grunge_Hamster

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Thanks for the answers in the previous page.

I hope Superman's two sons are Jon and his adopted son Damian Wayne :v
Pretty cool if so (And more interesting than what Bendis did to shock Superman's status quo)
 

Jason Frost

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Well, they did establish that only the Paragons and whoever J'onn gave the memories to would know anything about the multiverse. Any random pop up baddies shouldn't know anything. From their perspective all the heroes, aliens, metas etc were always present on that Earth.

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And Lex, obviously.
What about Superman (Tyler Hoechlin)? It looked like that he did not know he had now two sons when he was talking on the phone with Lois.
 

Keym

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What about Superman (Tyler Hoechlin)? It looked like that he did not know he had now two sons when he was talking on the phone with Lois.
Yeah that was weird, I think they screwed up there.
Honestly it kind of felt like a backdoor tease to the rumor that the DCEU is going to get it's own in-universe reboot.
At the very least, I hope the cameo means they're going full steam ahead with Ezra's movie.
 

Keym

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That's different. The J'onn upload (lol) tells them what happened already. It doesn't tell them anything about current Earth Prime.
But Superman wasn't a paragon, he should've had all the memories from Earth Prime. There was no evidence that the upload erased all previous memories for the rest of the cast.
 

raYne_07

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But Superman wasn't a paragon, he should've had all the memories from Earth Prime. There was no evidence that the upload erased all previous memories for the rest of the cast.
It's a combination Earth, not an original pre Crisis Earth. We don't know how the memory stuff works for people who weren't paragons. ie Everyone is going to go about their lives thinking all the heroes, metas and aliens were always around. So there had to have been memory changes for non paragons cause there's a shitload of changes and added memories that have to have taken place for that to make sense.

(Insert comic book excuse about Kryptonian minds being less susceptible to changes something something)
 

Jason Frost

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Maybe it is related to what Lex Luthor did by taking the place of (the other) Superman for the Paragon of Truth.
 

Keym

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It's a combination Earth, not an original pre Crisis Earth. We don't know how the memory stuff works for people who weren't paragons. ie Everyone is going to go about their lives thinking all the heroes, metas and aliens were always around. So there had to have been memory changes for non paragons cause there's a shitload of changes and added memories that have to have taken place for that to make sense.

(Insert comic book excuse about Kryptonian minds being less susceptible to changes something something)
The thing is, the way I understand it, it's not like everyone reappeared out of thin air as if they were magicked back into existence. The universe restarted and everyone lived their whole lives on Earth Prime. Taking this into account, there's no reason why Superman wouldn't know about his own life. It's different with the paragons because they basically time travelled from the beginning of time to the present and they have no reboot versions of themselves. They're still the same versions they've always been.
 

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If past Berlanti productions have told em anything it’s that’s they’ll address any plot holes in a humorous way next season.
 

raYne_07

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If past Berlanti productions have told em anything it’s that’s they’ll address any plot holes in a humorous way next season.
*waves to next door neighbor*
"Hi Jeff, how are you? "

(Next day)

*waves to next door neighbor who's now an Alien*
"Hi Jeff, you look different. "
"Yeah, I got a haircut"
 

Rellyrell28

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The thing is, the way I understand it, it's not like everyone reappeared out of thin air as if they were magicked back into existence. The universe restarted and everyone lived their whole lives on Earth Prime. Taking this into account, there's no reason why Superman wouldn't know about his own life. It's different with the paragons because they basically time travelled from the beginning of time to the present and they have no reboot versions of themselves. They're still the same versions they've always been.
I kinda look at it like the Days of Future Past movie where when they fixed the timeline Wolverine did his thing on auto pilot until his memories traveled back to present time so like they all been around the memories of the event were restored at that time.
 

Foltzie

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Oh my, the Arrowverse Superman has children and it doesn't seem weird, like it did with Superman Returns. From introducing Lois, to child announcement, and to proposal within one three hour window.

Edit: Three hours for Elseworlds
 
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morningbus

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What about Superman (Tyler Hoechlin)? It looked like that he did not know he had now two sons when he was talking on the phone with Lois.
I think sometimes you need to go with the simplest explanation: he wasn't expressing shock that he had two sons, he was expressing shock that Lois was calling about his two sons.

It's a pretty common rhetorical thing to do.

"We need to talk about our sons, Clark."
"Our sons, why?"
"Well, both of them are sterile due to the differences in Human and Kryptonian DNA. We really threw a god damn pair of dice at the wall with this one, Smallville, so who knows what other health problems they'll have down the line."
 

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What would be occuring in Spectre-Ollie's mind during his creation of Freeland and merging the Black Lightning Universe into The Arrowverse?
 

BLOODED_hands

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They look like they need some help?
Ollie: glad I'm dead and won't be there to witness the wrath of Tobias and Jefferson.

Black Lightning is up first so I'm hoping it gets addressed immediately. I'm also hoping Tobias retains his pre-crisis memories somehow because that's going to be entertaining to see what he has to say (highly unlikely).
 

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Finished episode 4. That quarry fight had total super sentai energy.

Everyone of those team-ups had a quarry fight.