pretty sure they said no more big crossovers. Anything else is going to be like two character team ups.
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The CW's Crisis on Infinite Earths |OT| You Have Failed This Multiversity
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Finally caught up. Got plenty of thoughts I'm still processing.
Also for Legends fans... it looks like Mona is no longer a series regular. She was cut from the credits. So she's probably getting a few cameos then written out.
Also for Legends fans... it looks like Mona is no longer a series regular. She was cut from the credits. So she's probably getting a few cameos then written out.
They didn't say no more big ones, but they did say the next one is going to be a smaller Kara/Kate focused affair.
Beautiful crossover, loved every minute of it and loved loved loved the ending. Perfect clip was shown to promote Doom Patrol lol
And I do like how they turned infinite earths to like...12 earths...I liked that bit, and hit the emotional beats. I get why some people are, "boo no reverse jobber" but with the time constraints they had he would have just been tossed into the weather witch role and tossed in jail yet again. I rather they use him like a global threat and save him for next cross over. While next crossover might go bigger(I doubt we getting new gods, but one can hope) it would be cool to get more global to bring back fan favorites and new threats.
And I do like how they turned infinite earths to like...12 earths...I liked that bit, and hit the emotional beats. I get why some people are, "boo no reverse jobber" but with the time constraints they had he would have just been tossed into the weather witch role and tossed in jail yet again. I rather they use him like a global threat and save him for next cross over. While next crossover might go bigger(I doubt we getting new gods, but one can hope) it would be cool to get more global to bring back fan favorites and new threats.
Don't many of the big other events going forward require the Green Lantern Corps? I guess you could do some Supergirl and Superman events and make them bigger. New Krypton and introduce Zod for example. Darkseid or anything Apokolips related is going to be movie based with New Gods coming up and whatever they do with the Justice League there.
I think the next biggest they could do or lead to is Our Worlds at War and introduce Imperiex. A World's Finest crossover seems like the easiest to do with Kara and Kate's friendship.
With like one or two exceptions, I thought the action scenes in this crossover were pretty damn weak to be honest. I know these CW shows have tiny budgets, but in previous years they felt a lot more exciting and better choreographed. Here it felt kinda lazy for the most part, like the director instructed them to "stand on this piece of tape and just flail your arms around and we'll CG in some shadow demons later." Meh.
But man, they really nailed the character moments where it mattered. Ollie's final goodbye, the presidential address and moment of silence, empty seat at the table in the Hall of Justice, just an awesome sendoff for him.
But man, they really nailed the character moments where it mattered. Ollie's final goodbye, the presidential address and moment of silence, empty seat at the table in the Hall of Justice, just an awesome sendoff for him.
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Regarding Stargirl: it was originally going to only be on DC Universe. It's already been filmed, which is why it is in its own universe. I assume that's why they needed to clarify that it isn't in Earth-Prime here.
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Stargirl on Earth-2 makes sense, it's the JSA Earth.
Not if the show gets picked up
So the whole show takes place in 2040?
Doesn't that kind of defeat the point of creating an Earth-Prime here with all the heroes together at once?
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Do we know the show takes place in the future or are you just guessing?
I feel like the only missed opportunity was not having a giant Ollie Spectre show up to hold down the Anti-Monitor at the last moment.
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Well the pilot takes place in the future, so it would be weird to do a pilot set in the future (which we know for sure) and then just go back to the present for the rest of the series.
Like zero said. Next year is smaller in scale but the bigger stuff isn't off the table. Probably just taking a break from the bigger events until everything gets settled in in this new multiverse.
I think most of the bigger events do require The Corps and we do have a Green Lantern show lined up. If that gets absorbed into the main Arrowverse then those events are possible. I think you're right with the Superman/Supergirl events that leads to a crossover.
Serene and you just reminded me that we're getting a New Gods movie so that's off the table for now.
I just wonder what the justification would be for the 2019 versions of Dinah and Laurel to stay in the future on a long-term basis
The lack of good fight scenes in episodes 1-3 made me think they were going all out in these last couple episodes. Definitely disappointing compared to something like crisis on Earth X
Also, lol at Ryan Choi holding his own against the wraiths in ep 4
I...really liked that? Like yeah it was predictable and we all pretty much called all of it to begin with, but...it was nice. It was fun, some nice character moments.
And now we have a Justice League! Well, kinda. I'm glad Black Lightning is on Earth-1 now.
And now we have a Justice League! Well, kinda. I'm glad Black Lightning is on Earth-1 now.
I forgot and slept through the last couple episodes. :(
when am i gonna get my all supermans special??? come oooonnnnnn
when am i gonna get my all supermans special??? come oooonnnnnn
Part 1 was largely whack af. Only real highlight was the Erza cameo (which got completely spoiled for me cuz my jackass friend that doesn't even watch the damn crossover), and seeing Lex continue to ham it up. Pretty much nothing happens until the final 10 minutes, and (unsurprisingly at this point) the final fight against the Anti-Monitor was very underwhelming. Especially compared to Earth X, that boasted a much bigger cast for the big battle.
Ryan Choi being one of the paragons still felt random due to him being a newly introduced character, they should've introduced before this crossover. And I just straight up didn't like Arrow becoming the Spectre. Everything about that was handled poorly and it felt very boring. All I can really say is I guess his 2nd death was a little better than the first?
Part 2 starts off on a better note, in that it at least finally achieves at least the goal of bringing Supergirl and her cast on over. That that also included the detail of Lex being in control of the DEO, as well as a respected figure, was very interesting. It started to get kind of annoying though having to go through the process of J'onn restore the memories of several characters though. Was seeing some good ol' Legends banter (and some actually enjoyable crossover dialogue) tho, same for the giant Beebo callback. Main issue with this episode though is that it feels more like an epilogue. Which maybe could've worked... if Part 4 actually felt appropriately climatic. I mean yea they fight Anti-Monitor again, and it was slightly better than Part 4... I guess, but at that point I'm just more interested in seeing everyone adjust to Earth Prime. Fuck the Anti-Monitor, Lex was a better antagonistic force.
Though Oliver's 2nd death still felt somewhat lacking, seeing the president, cast, and effectively the whole world honor Oliver's sacrifice actually got to me. That was genuinely emotional.
Was annoyed that Black Lightning got the short end of the stick in terms of screentime, but they made up for it by confirming he's also a part of Earth Prime, as well as a founding member of the Justice League (!!!) Also the "Oh it's like that?" line had me dying 😂
Overall, I consider this crossover to be a huge disappointment for the most part. Also didn't help that the break just killed any hype, not that the final two episodes really deserved it. The Anti-Monitor just didn't feel very threatening, there was arguably too many damn cameos (As in, the ones that took up ample screentime) as well. But at least I can take solace in it not copping out or half-assing actually combining the worlds like we all wanted.
Ryan Choi being one of the paragons still felt random due to him being a newly introduced character, they should've introduced before this crossover. And I just straight up didn't like Arrow becoming the Spectre. Everything about that was handled poorly and it felt very boring. All I can really say is I guess his 2nd death was a little better than the first?
Part 2 starts off on a better note, in that it at least finally achieves at least the goal of bringing Supergirl and her cast on over. That that also included the detail of Lex being in control of the DEO, as well as a respected figure, was very interesting. It started to get kind of annoying though having to go through the process of J'onn restore the memories of several characters though. Was seeing some good ol' Legends banter (and some actually enjoyable crossover dialogue) tho, same for the giant Beebo callback. Main issue with this episode though is that it feels more like an epilogue. Which maybe could've worked... if Part 4 actually felt appropriately climatic. I mean yea they fight Anti-Monitor again, and it was slightly better than Part 4... I guess, but at that point I'm just more interested in seeing everyone adjust to Earth Prime. Fuck the Anti-Monitor, Lex was a better antagonistic force.
Though Oliver's 2nd death still felt somewhat lacking, seeing the president, cast, and effectively the whole world honor Oliver's sacrifice actually got to me. That was genuinely emotional.
Was annoyed that Black Lightning got the short end of the stick in terms of screentime, but they made up for it by confirming he's also a part of Earth Prime, as well as a founding member of the Justice League (!!!) Also the "Oh it's like that?" line had me dying 😂
Overall, I consider this crossover to be a huge disappointment for the most part. Also didn't help that the break just killed any hype, not that the final two episodes really deserved it. The Anti-Monitor just didn't feel very threatening, there was arguably too many damn cameos (As in, the ones that took up ample screentime) as well. But at least I can take solace in it not copping out or half-assing actually combining the worlds like we all wanted.
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That Jon Cryer is sticking around on Supergirl really feels like he could be a regular on Superman & Lois. He's committed to the role.
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From what I've seen of him in interviews, he really had fun with the part and then when he found out about Crisis it COMPLETELY sold him on the idea of sticking around. I have no idea how long they'll be able to hold onto him but I hope it's a while.
I really have to give the guy credit - I was not expecting him to make a good Lex and he's completely exceeded my expectations to a comical degree. What a treat.
Uh does this mean they were actually on set together?
even crazier that it didn't leak
I've seen him refered to as a new Legends cast member, so it's possible Ray hands the Atom suit off to him.
That's what I'm thinking.
I also love that Lena will apparently remember everything. I was a bit worried they would only have her remember the new timeline where Lex is good.
After how disappointing Supergirl S5 has been following S4, one of my favorite Arrowverse seasons, I feel like this gives them an opportunity to get things back on track.
Holy shit, they actually flew him to the set. I wonder if this was something they literally just filmed within the last couple weeks?
I think the way they did it was that they did the shot/reverse shot thing for the bulk of the dialogue separately and then flew Ezra out for the one shot where they were touching each other's suits. They probably snuck it in while filming the second half of the season.
Ok, cool. I'll allow it.
Supergirl/Batwoman Worlds Finest.
Flash/Black Lightning: Love & Thunder.
Legends/Canaries: Time Waits For No One.
Stargirl/_____: A Falling Star.
Damn, I was this close to dropping Supergirl again, now Lex being back in his new position means I gotta stick it out...
Also... why it feel like J'onn was only a paragon so they'd have a justification for him being able to restore everyone's memories lol
Also... why it feel like J'onn was only a paragon so they'd have a justification for him being able to restore everyone's memories lol
Currently purchasing the Crisis episodes on Xbox to have non-shit broadcast television quality versions.
The dude is mad powerful and it was obvious they weren't going to use him for a lot of things, lol. Still disappointed he didn't do much tho.
Question, so where did The Monitor take Felicity when she said that she wanted to be with Ollie since he died twice? She wouldn't necessarily be back when the universe got recreated since The Monitor said that she couldn't return