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Marvel Cinematic Universe | We had a good run, and now it's over
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Sexism and racism. Plain and simple
Shit look at the dudes still pressed about Feige just saying Shuri was the smartest avenger
I mean in that people, even in this thread, are bringing up ideas of introducing Ironheart without using Riri.
It's not intentional racism or sexism by any means. I think the character was fucked over by a Bendis being on auto pilot and the various comicsgate weirdos polluting the well enough that casual talk would be how the character sucks.
Also people already show their ass for Shuri
Even in Riri's case, she improved dramatically when she got her solo series separate from Bendis.
What, people not checking out her current run? It's actually part of my monthly pull.
People don't want a black girl being the new Iron Man. They want a four year old white girl instead.
I know what you mean... For some reason people are just fine to combine RiRi with previously introduced black genius, a previously introduced 50y/o black woman, or swapping her with a white girl.
I wonder what that reason could be...
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Literally nobody ever talked about streamlining Stark, Pym, Banner, and Strange into one character even though all of them are affluent white male geniuses.
This shit ain't hard to figure out.
This shit ain't hard to figure out.
I don't imagine we'll be getting any calls swaps or streamlining when Doom and Richard's are introduced either.
The fact that in a genre where hero identity changes are a thing it's only a problem when it's black teenage girl.
The hate for Williams goes way beyond just not liking the character. She's one of the reasons why comicsgate got the little traction they did in thee first place.
Just to add a small correction, they said Monica, who's about 35 around Endgame (if she wasn't snapped). You're thinking of Maria.
There's plenty of room in the MCU for all these women of color without them being merged into each other or being whitewashed.
I think Monica would be closer to 35-38 in Endgame, and in WandaVision unless she's just something Wanda makes up with her reality warping.
But yeah, don't make her Iron Heart. She's her own hero in Photon.
My bad, still not the right age though. Nor the right person
Hayley Atwell has already recorded lines for What If:
Simu is quickly beginning to overtake Brie as my current favorite MCU actor off-screen lol, the guy is very likable
If Marvel makes a Riri movie it'll probably be great, at the moment it just make no sense to me to have a random kid with no association with Tony take on the Iron Man mantle when you have Peter who's pretty clearly Tony's successor, Morgan in several years, and the kid in Iron Man 3 who came back in Endgame. Or even Norman Osborne taking over Stark Industries or something which would fit really naturally. Speaking as someone who mostly only knows the movies.
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You're aware that there are five years between Infinity War and Endgame that weren't erased and not even explored at all yet..right?
You're suggesting Tony could have mentored Riri in that time?
Five years is a long time and they obviously left those years open for all sorts of things.
As someone that watched FFH not that long ago, it's a firm reminder that you can get creative as fuck in how you tie things together from past movies. They can make it work.
And yea, I get that the idea of a daughter following her dad's footsteps is cute and all, but I'd immediately sour on it if they ever did that in place of adapting Ironheart. And you calling him the "kid in Iron Man 3" is exactly why they'll never make a movie about him haha, I don't remember his name either
He is definitely my favorite MCU actor. Florence Pugh and Elizabeth Olsen right after.
By the way... Spidey extended version coming to theaters:
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Ya know, for RDJ being as amazing as he was in the Ironman role, it's really a shame that we only got 1 good Ironman film out of him. I tried to rewatch Ironman 2 this weekend and boy does that movie SUCK. Feels so dated and cheesy compared to the quality of the MCU now.
Great? Naw, it's average at best. Great would be towards the top of the MCU and it's definitely not.
Yeah it's sad, although I don't dislike Iron Man 2 that much. The subplot of Tony dying is good, it's the Ivan Vanko stuff and the third act that aren't very good. Civil War and the Avengers movies are the real Iron Man sequels with better antagonists for Tony - Ultron, Captain America, and Thanos.
I mean, I used 'great' pretty loosely. But yeah, Iron Man 3 is at number 6 out of the 23 for me as far as the MCU goes. So it's definitely towards the top of the MCU.
It definitely is but it still holds up and is actually a good movie with a good plot and villain. I think I just hated Ivan Vanko so much that I could never give the film a chance.
That's kind of where i'm getting at since Civil War and Avengers Tony/Ironman was RDJ playing the character to perfection and it's just a bummer we didn't get more of that performance in a solo film.
Wow, that high? I'm curious which films you rank above and directly below? Its not even in the top 15 in my list.
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Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur only works for one movie. By the time a sequel can come out the girl has grown three feet taller and is on her way to college and that's boring.
I don't know if they were winging it but Iron Man 2's production was pretty tumultuous.
IM3 seemed like the smoothest of the three to make.
I like Iron Man 3 a lot. It's fun, it's flashy, it's snappy, it's got some creative (and weighty) action sequences. I'd put it over any MCU movie in the past two years.
...eh, maybe not over Ragnarok. That's a close one, though. They're both in my "solid second tier" if I had to rank them.
...eh, maybe not over Ragnarok. That's a close one, though. They're both in my "solid second tier" if I had to rank them.
For me, IM 3 is right above Hulk in my rankings of of MCU movies. It's disposable fluff, but not actively awful, like the hulk.
At the moment my ratings go, from number one to seven, as follows: Endgame, Winter Soldier, Ragnarok, Civil War, Infinity War, Iron Man 3, Avengers. So yes, Iron Man 3 above the first Guardians and Black Panther, among others. Blasphemy to some, I'm sure. I can't help it.
I understand why (quite) some people dislike it (to some extent), but I just love the Shane Black smoothness and the combo of him and RDJ just really works for me (just as in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang). Also, the chemistry between RDJ and Gwyneth is just so amazing. That really struck me on my rewatch of the movies before Infinity War. In all three Iron Man movies, they are just so very good together. And sure, Aldrich Killian is a shit villain.
Hehe, that's pretty amazing to me. Ranking IM3 below something like The Dark World is mindblowing to me. But, hey, to each his own.
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