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The Deuce - David Simon show about the sex industry in 1980's NYC - The Final Season - Mondays on HBO
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It's a David Simon show so you know it's going to end in hurt anyway.
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Damn this show is getting no buzz what's so ever on here...
Question, do we know what the dad did to the prostitute with the curly hair?
Question, do we know what the dad did to the prostitute with the curly hair?
No, I imagined abuse of some kind.
In the post-show bit, the director (I think it was) imagines that the mother committed suicide.
On another note--
I love The Wire, one of the best TV shows ever, but I was never in love with a lot of the acting on it. Some of the cast was amazing, but a lot were just "okay." I figured it wasn't Simon's focus, he was more about portraying the world the characters inhabited. But on this show, damn, some of the best TV drama acting I've seen in a while, in particular this episode.
Aww fair enough. I remember in the second or mabey first season, I binged them so they blurred together, they hookers were all talking about how daddy issues brought them here. Then one said "why would I got home again just so I can fuck my dad again" or something like that and I was wondering if it was her...
Also while I think the wire has better pacing and is a more in gauging show, this does have better acting. Everyone kills it, hell the last scene with Paul's boyfriend you can see the happiness yet so much sorrow in that moment. Really powerful stuff and I'm heartbroken for my dude pauly...
You should absolutely watch Barry! While your at it watch succession, big little lies, Chernobyl, and euphoria ;) Honesly HBO is the best streaming service out there by a mile in my book. Quality over quantity all day everyday!
That shot where his face falls as they go dance was great. Like, that's how much work he's doing just to pretend to be a little happy. I expect the rest of his scenes to wreck me.
Also where in everything holy is my dude Larry!!!! He hasn't been in any of this season yet has he??
This is easily the best season yet. It was a slow burn but I really feel invested in these characters now.
Also that bass drum transition in Dreaming is some Wire level intro expertise.
Edit: The way Vincent accepts his brother for who he is and never tells him how to live his life has no joke helped me with my relationship with my brother.
Also that bass drum transition in Dreaming is some Wire level intro expertise.
Edit: The way Vincent accepts his brother for who he is and never tells him how to live his life has no joke helped me with my relationship with my brother.
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I honestly thought Frankie was going to get killed off before the end of season one, so it's impressive he made it this long.
Yeah, it always felt inevitable. They layed it on thicker this season but I did appreciate the realism of how his body reacted to the wounds once the adrenaline stopped pumping.
Curious to know whether Vince seeks out any revenge or goes after his picket fence family life instead.
Man what an episode.
Also I thought it was a bit surprising that Candy didn't:
Sad what happened to Frankie. I was expecting it to come from Rudy after he stopped giving him his slice of the movies. As soon as they kept following him out of the building I knew what was coming though.
Also I thought it was a bit surprising that Candy didn't:
Explain to those women how porn, even though there are bad people involved in some ways, it helped some of the prostitutes and others get off the street and find another way to make money vs having them sell themselves while under a pimp's hand, and how if the porn is shut down those women will likely just go back out into the night to do the same thing.
His death was somewhat similar to how he actually died, though it happened inside a club (not on the street) and he survived the shooting for a few years. So they played with the timeline. You always knew his choices would catch up with him, and there were so many death flags this episode. I dreaded every scene with him.
I had no idea that was Andrea Dworkin until the after-show stuff. Well done.
I also like how the show didn't really say the Women Against Porn were wrong-- they had real concerns, even if their methods were wrong.
I also like how the show didn't really say the Women Against Porn were wrong-- they had real concerns, even if their methods were wrong.
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Oh right, I keep forgetting that some of the characters in this are based on real people.
His next show is a mini series about Charles Lindberg becoming the fascist dictator of America in the 1940s! He also has another show in the works about the Spanish Civil War.
Welp!
I don't love period dramas, but thinking about it those sound pretty interesting if made by David.
Thanks!
The Lindbergh one is based on a great book by Philip Roth, The Plot Against America. Exciting to have Simon overseeing the adaptation.
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Brutal episode for just about everyone. I had assumed the mob would eventually take out Frankie but it didn't go that way.
Soooo. Is the series about the planned coup ? Huh, didn't know that.
Business Plot - Wikipedia
Yeah. I thought Rudy was going to be the one to do it, given the way Frankie was treating him. I was flabbergasted every fucking time Frankie did that shit.
Yeah. Felt the exact same way.
I don't think Rudy would ever have gone that far due to his relationship with Vincent. He makes too much money from that group.
True true. But boy did Frankie push it way too fucking far.
So i thought something was going to end happening to him. To remind him of his place.
The guy who shot him is the son of a made man. That might actually cause some friction among Rudy and the other guy.
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Yes, that was the thing holding me back - Vincent and the brothel are both tied closely to Frankie, so it would've caused even more problems had Rudy been the one. It was getting close to some sort of a breaking point in any case.
Good point - I had forgotten about that. I feel like we've hit the pivotal moment in the lives of a lot of the characters and the rest of the series will be resolving where they go from here, for better or worse.
Yep.
They've been low-key setting up Rudy for conflict with the up-and-coming Gotti crew. I imagine that'll be a thing as we sunset the series.
They've been low-key setting up Rudy for conflict with the up-and-coming Gotti crew. I imagine that'll be a thing as we sunset the series.
It was a baseball thing, he says:
"The rule...two men on base....one out"
I'm guessing it was a realization that he brought it on himself but I dunno.
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