I mean yeah but it's not gonna stop me from thinking that its fucking hilarious regardless of the intent
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The Division 2 Is Ditching Steam For The Epic Games Store On PC [See Threadmarks]
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I mean yeah but it's not gonna stop me from thinking that its fucking hilarious regardless of the intent
Name some features you want that Steam doesn't provide.
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I don't know... Release a launcher with many of the features Steam has? Offer something that Steam doesn't have? Why GOG is still alive even when their launcher is barebones compared to Steam? Epic has enough money to implement those features.
Doesn't uplay have install folder relocation, anti cheat support through via battleye and controller support for their launcher (pretty sure I've launched a few games on uplay using my controller)? Another thing to note is that particular sheet would look a slightly different for steam if we were to only talk about Ubi games on steam since uplay is mandatory (so things like DRM free support would not really matter in ubi's case).Here's why some people might prefer Steam, it simply has more features for the consumer:
Unless they do want access to more gamers through other launchers but are sending a message to Steam about their splits.
At least match the most basic features Steam introduced literally a decade ago when you launch your platform.
People act like this is some impossible challenge, which is frankly laughable when we are talking about a company like Epic. It's ridiculous.
The punchline of all this is that Ubisoft has required Epic Store purchases to launch the game through Uplay, which means fundamentally the only real difference this announcement makes is that game won't be available on Steam because *flips bird*.
Hell, Ubisoft has their own store. If they were concerned about their own cut, why are they giving Epic 12% when they can make it exclusive to Uplay and collect all of the money. This claim that Ubisoft wants a lower cut doesn't make sense, considering they could quite easily pay no cut.
Does beg the question as to why Ubisoft is selling codes for the game on stores that we know take substantially more than 12% (e.g. Humble Store, which takes 25%).
Hell, Ubisoft has their own store. If they were concerned about their own cut, why are they giving Epic 12% when they can make it exclusive to Uplay and collect all of the money. This claim that Ubisoft wants a lower cut doesn't make sense, considering they could quite easily pay no cut.
Could you pre-order the game on Steam? Are those retailers selling Steam keys?
significantly higher revenue cut to small developers.
Highly curated store.
No social media/groups full of nazis.
when/if epic becomes as bad as steam at all of those things ill go back to not having a preference.
From my experience with Indian steam store (which is the 2nd cheapest store overall after Russian store and I don't know if uplay does regional pricing for Russia) uplay games were only on an average 20% cheaper than steam (unlike other publishers where it can be 50% cheaper or more on Indian store). But on uplay you could get 20% off via uplay coins so you'd end up paying about the same and have the option to go even cheaper than that if you get it off 3rd party sellers like cdkeys.
It's why despite having access to Indian store, almost all my Ubi games are on uplay because I bought it off cdkeys (which sold uplay codes). So I'm sure that atleast when it comes specifically to Ubisoft games steam version was never the cheapest version to buy and has been so for a while...unless you live in Russia then maybe. Because if it's more expensive to buy on steam even for the 2nd cheapest steam store then it's gonna be even more expensive in other regional stores. Again this is just for Ubisoft games, for others definitely steam is the better option and has been due to the massive regional price difference.
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everyone else?
Who knows but between
Steam
GOG
Sony
MS
Nintendo
Apple
and countless more!
They all chose 30%, who cares who shot first?
So do you have proof that the 30% cut across the industry is Valve's fault?
Once again more ignorance that valve's take is "disgusting" when everyone else does the same, but no one complains about them.
If you don't want to bother arguing, why do you even participate ?
Pretty simple: Offer what Steam does, allow me to migrate my games and I'll be good. As for new features, it's up to them to innovate.
Better screenshot and video recording capabilities, improved achievement support, a reward system like Nintendo's gold coins. Probably more that I can't think of right now.
You mean everyone else's was the same as VALVE's. And why is that?
If EPIC can shake things up a bit I'm all for it.
They don't subsidize and pay to market the hardware to get them in consumer homes.
...and when it becomes easy for 3rd party devs to push launchers onto other home devices, you'll see the save thing happen to consoles.
I think this is a bad argument. It has more to do with the fact that's Epic hasn't got these expected baseline features, and are actively making some people's PC gaming experience worse by luring games off of Steam.
They should probably get their client in order before they start moneyhatting exclusives. Get a good refund policy, in-home streaming, big picture, and the slew of other features that as Steam offers.
All of a sudden, people who use those Steam features are now getting a worse experience thanks to Epic.
I'm totally down for Steam to lose some Steam, competition is good and I feel Valve was getting pretty complacent. Perhaps Valve needs some EXCLUSIVE titles of their own... to better... their... platform...?
Nice to see Canas being made a fool of
At least try to hide your bias and trolling
Again your going to have to prove that Valve set the impetus with this.
And we've already had another poster claim that it was Apple who set the standard.
PC gaming doesnt exactly need closed platforms/exclusives, thats consoles terrain
In what way does an exclusive game better a platform? Unless it was literally developed by the company themselves in which case I'd still rather have the option to buy it anywhere. Steam is the best platform because of it's amazing feature set. But to say Valve was getting complacent is insanely ignorant at best.
Well, that's another game I was looking forward to playing, but will avoid picking up now.
I really, really do not want to support a company's launcher that largely came about after Epic threw tons of cash at a select few smaller devs in order to get "exclusives" on the PC. That's not even touching upon the fact that the EGL lacks so many consumer facing features compared to other launchers (as shown above).
I really, really do not want to support a company's launcher that largely came about after Epic threw tons of cash at a select few smaller devs in order to get "exclusives" on the PC. That's not even touching upon the fact that the EGL lacks so many consumer facing features compared to other launchers (as shown above).
you have to be pretty dumb to not see that. Btw Valve would only take 20% of a cut for The Division 2.
Is it though? Steam offers far more than any of its competitors. I'm all for compeition but the Epic Game Store just doesn't offer anywhere close to as much as Steam does.
I will say that Steam's cut is uncompetitive - yes it's the same as Apple, MS and Sony but they all have a literal monopoly over their respective platforms. PCs are open and thus open to rival marketplaces as we see here. If Valve could've dropped their cut to 15% or something none of this would've have happened.
No thanks
I'd rather have everything on all platforms specifically Steam and GOG
I think they were being sarcastic.
So... what makes you believe that those features won't be part of the launcher(s) at some point in time? Steam was the biggest piece of CRAP back in 2004, as HL2 released. And it was still CRAP years later. They came very far with their software now, but they also took their time.