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The Division 2 Is Ditching Steam For The Epic Games Store On PC [See Threadmarks]
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Genuinely surprised at the number of people who have defaulted to "no buy". I get that many people enjoy having their library consolidated; but as someone who has used the GOG, UPlay, Origin, and Steam clients side-by-side in order to cut down on costs via individual sales, this isn't a huge issue ot me as of yet.
Ironically, competition from other launchers is likely the reason Steam changed their revenue share scheme.
People here seem to ignore that competition isn't just about providing alternatives, it's also about improving existing options.
What's good about it? Did Valve kick your dog?
Will you actually respond with anything meaningful or are you just another console gamer here to fling shit?
It's almost as if the issue (for most) has nothing to do with wanting to consolidate our library to only one platform.
usually speaking steam's rarely the cheapest place to buy ubisoft games (Russian and Chinese versions being the two exception), even considering regional pricing. Uplay (after 20% discount) or resellers were/are cheaper. This is because outside of those two territories, Ubi games were on an average only 20% or so cheaper on steam.
Always got games cheap thank to third party sites for steam keys. Bye to that now.
In my case is pretty cheap (Argentina)
The division is at 62$ US at the cheapest option in the Epic store, at Steam i would pay around 30$ US
That doesn't mean you have to take away the choice to buy from Steam. If the customer wants to buy it from Steam, then by all means.
Yeah, Ubisoft does offer regional pricing for their games on Steam, but it's not that great, like $50 instead of $60 for me. There are other places like cdkeys where you can buy their games cheaper than that.
I personally don't have a strong feeling about this one. At least we can still buy the uplay version/key through various sites. Games being locked in Epic Store is a big no, but this is okay.
Tencent owns 5% of Ubi and helped them during the battle with Vivendi. They also own almost 50% of Epic.
As I said earlier, at least for me (and probably other enthusiasts as well) the situation is that every year I have hundreds of games I want to try, dozens of games I buy, and a small handful that are must-plays and I know I will invest significant time into.
Will a game move from the latter category into "no buy" because it goes Epic Store exclusive? No. (It's not UWP after all :P)
Will I just go with another game instead -- one that is available with the full feature set I prefer on a platform I am confident I will still be using 10 years from now -- if it was in the former two categories? Absolutely! It also helps that I can send a (tiny!) signal of not appreciating exclusivity deals on PC that way.
If I am not wrong the Indian store is cheaper than Argentine store and Ubi games on Indian steam store ranged from $42-48. On the Indian Epic store The Division 2 is $42, but I understand the Argentine store is more expensive than even US store atm. That has to be an error cause it doesn't make sense.
EDIT: I was wrong. Seems like Argentina is another exception for Ubi games on steam.
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You never could buy steam keys for ubi games from third party sites. It was always uplay keys and you will STILL be able to do that with The Division 2.
Yup Epic Games is sure competing against Valve by locking down games instead of actually creating a decent client
But ubi also offers 20% discount that can be added on top via their uplay coins...after which that $50 game would become $40.
After that 20% discount the games on uplay may or may not end up being cheaper than cdkeys, but that'd ofcourse depend on how cdkeys prices each game individually.
Obviously Ubisoft's choice is Ubisoft's choice, but it's still an unhappy situation for anyone who'd prefer to buy and play games through Steam whenever they have the opportunity to do so. After all, many of us have been choosing just that for years, despite the option to get games on Uplay for less money. So we grumble.
I always got steam keys from CD keys cheaper than direct from Steam did it with ACO before release.
Can you give me more details on this? For Ubi games specifically
Yea I'm gonna need to see the receipts on that one.
We haven't been able to buy steam codes for Ubisoft games for years now. Steam store is the only place where you can get a steam copy of Ubi games and has been for a good while now.
I bought AC: Origins on cdkeys too at launch and it was a uplay code.
The fact is that whether you like it or not you need to have Uplay installed and running to play any of their games from AC Brotherhood onwards. The ship to complain about that sailed years ago. I never understood those who buy their games through Steam. Why? It's another client eating resources for...having access to your friend list, I guess?
Not much to say, got it off cdkeys
Bare with me, I'll see if I still have the order email
Well Epic store has been live for a month. It will probably get better with time. But yeah, sure, for now they are locking down games to get a good start.
It's almost as unbelievable as Era banning trolls on a PC related thread. Almost.
Interesting to see how this all pans out, loaded up the Epic Launcher for the first time in a while today (Played Fortnite and Paragon once or twice each) and wasn't impressed by what I saw. But this can all end with Steam dropping their cut to 20% then it'll all be worth it.
I'm in for the games, which is why I'm willing to sacrifice my short term enjoyment, and tbh it's not much of a sacrifice since there is a huge amount of amazing game that still need to be played anyway. For what I consider being a move that might send a message which could be making gaming better long term ( or at least prevent it from becoming worst ).
It's also why I bought some game at release even when I still have a backlog and don't intend to play it for quite some time, to show that there is demand ( jrpg or visual novel on PC for example, or say those late release of Etrian Odyssey in europe ). That's why I didn't import Gundam Versus on ps4 and choose to wait a few month for the localisation. Or kickstarted projects.
Sadly this is not the norm which is why online gaming on console became subscription based and cross-platform multiplayer might never become the norm ( "I don't defend sony I'm only coming in every single thread about cross platform to explain, why it make business sense to do what they do" )... and why now on PC more and more title might cost more to get played on a platform offering less feature.
Steam is literally always open on my PC. The fact that it launches ubisoft games through uply is almost invisible to me, as a Steam user. There's no decision about "do I want Steam eating resources while I play AC Odyssey?" It's not a question. If I want to launch a game, I'd prefer to do it with Steam. And I prefer to have access to the friends list and other features available in the overlay as opposed to not, given the option. Even if I'm playing a game through battle.net or Origin, I remain accessible through Steam.
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This is what I got when I bought Origins back at launch (to others don't bother copying the code, it won't work lol)
And this is what the game's page on CDKeys says:
They just invested in Fatshark earlier today. It feels like THQ Nordic and Tencent are throwing money at a different company every day.
Shit yeah you're right. I bought steam credit and got it that way, but ended up saving about 15 doing itThis is what I got when I bought Origins back at launch (to others don't bother copying the code, it won't work lol)
It's still on uplay so you can just buy it on uplay as you were going to.
It's one of the biggest games of 2019, player population is not going to be an issue for it.
Fair enough. To the point though, Epic's refund policy seems fine.