Itch.io offers a bigger cut in games than epic or steam yet none of these well known pubs and devs went to their store
I wonder why ....
Big fat paycheck and a moneyhat, just taking a wild guess.
Itch.io offers a bigger cut in games than epic or steam yet none of these well known pubs and devs went to their store
I wonder why ....
Itch.io offers a bigger cut in games than epic or steam yet none of these well known pubs and devs went to their store
I wonder why ....
This is likely never happening in the console space as long as physical retail exists.Surely this will also force Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft to reduce their fee too.
So why not the Discord store then? Millions of users, better cut than Epic.Because itch.io is more known as being an indie game store rather than the store that Fortnite is exclusively on? I guess they're getting a better cut and putting their game on a store that millions of people already use.
That was sarcasm. Guess /s is needed these days.This is likely never happening in the console space as long as physical retail exists.
Because itch.io is more known as being an indie game store rather than the store that Fortnite is exclusively on? I guess they're getting a better cut and putting their game on a store that millions of people already use.
That doesn't mean for a second that Fortnite players are suddenly gonna all buy The Division 2 on the Epic store but I can see why it would be the decision over something like Itch.io.
I don't think any console has a monopoly but if you throw enough money at something , you can convince someone to do something other than what they originally planned such as with shadow of tomb raider.
I mean these companies simply didn't decide to all of a sudden on good faith to stop releasing games on one platform that they previously announced and had a store page just to jump over exclusively (excluding their own store I.e Ubisoft) to another store - money is involved, these are businesses , not some charity group.
If one group does moneyhatting, I expect the competitor to do so the same soon.
Because itch.io is more known as being an indie game store rather than the store that Fortnite is exclusively on? I guess they're getting a better cut and putting their game on a store that millions of people already use.
That doesn't mean for a second that Fortnite players are suddenly gonna all buy The Division 2 on the Epic store but I can see why it would be the decision over something like Itch.io.
No one use the Epic Store as of yet. People use the Epic launcher. That is two different things. And even then, it's relying on the blurry "200M Fortnite users" without telling how many are PC users.
If Valves revenue split was completely unjust, and where they didn't give anything back for what they take, your comparison would hold up better. Trying to paint supporting the Epic Store revenue split as something akin to social responsibility is just plain silly.
If I had the option to pay more, for a product where the devs get a bit more, and the product is "ecological" (less DRM and similiar stuff) then I would gladly pay that. That's a better comparison with how I chose which groceries. But as with groceries, I will not the same or more for a lesser product, which is why the Epic Store is a bad option for me, and in that context, the revenue split cannot be something I as customer base my purchasing decisions on.
If you truly care the developers get more money, then buy their games from itch.io.The Epic Store split is better for the industry. That's the perspective of most who are supporting the store for that reason I'd imagine, that's also part of the reasoning behind Epic's decision. It's better and healthier for the industry for people who make games to get more for it.
Whether or not it's a lesser product or how much so depends entirely on your perspective. If it is worse off, how much are you okay giving up? For some, giving up those Steam offerings is an easy choice if it means the creators are paid more, or they might not consider them meaningful.
So for you to imply to others that "We as customers shouldn't worry about that fee" is what's truly silly. Instead speak on what you value.
i usually try to buy from humble widget on a devs pageThe Epic Store split is better for the industry. That's the perspective of most who are supporting the store for that reason I'd imagine, that's also part of the reasoning behind Epic's decision. It's better and healthier for the industry for people who make games to get more for it.
Whether or not it's a lesser product or how much so depends entirely on your perspective. If it is worse off, how much are you okay giving up? For some, giving up those Steam offerings is an easy choice if it means the creators are paid more, or they might not consider them meaningful.
So for you to imply to others that "We as customers shouldn't worry about that fee" is what's truly silly. Instead speak on what you value.
Itch.io offers a bigger cut in games than epic or steam yet none of these well known pubs and devs went to their store
I wonder why ....
If you truly care the developers get more money, then buy their games from itch.io.
Itch.io offers a bigger cut in games than epic or steam yet none of these well known pubs and devs went to their store
I wonder why ....
The Epic Store split is better for the industry. That's the perspective of most who are supporting the store for that reason I'd imagine, that's also part of the reasoning behind Epic's decision. It's better and healthier for the industry for people who make games to get more for it.
The Epic Store split is better for the industry. That's the perspective of most who are supporting the store for that reason I'd imagine, that's also part of the reasoning behind Epic's decision. It's better and healthier for the industry for people who make games to get more for it.
Whether or not it's a lesser product or how much so depends entirely on your perspective. If it is worse off, how much are you okay giving up? For some, giving up those Steam offerings is an easy choice if it means the creators are paid more, or they might not consider them meaningful.
So for you to imply to others that "We as customers shouldn't worry about that fee" is what's truly silly. Instead speak on what you value.
Wait, there's a Discord store?False
Discord split is better for the industry yet we aren't seeing as much activity as epic store , I guess devs don't like money @_@
Excuse me if I don't believe for a second that what Epic is doing is out of pure benevolence and not leveraging their Fortnite coffers to torpedo a competitor and to catapult themselves into the lead.
Steam and Valve allow developers to distribute Steam keys on the developer websites with 100% dev revenue, that's a way way better deal than what Epic is doing.
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Discord split is better for the industry yet we aren't seeing as much activity as epic store , I guess devs don't like money @_@
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Discord split is better for the industry yet we aren't seeing as much activity as epic store , I guess devs don't like money @_@
I'm sure Steam is more attractive to most even with a worse cut of revenue just because it's the default PC gaming store for a lot of gamers. But, don't forget, the Epic launcher/store is probably the default gaming app for a hell of a lot of gamers too. Imagine how many people have that installed purely for Fortnite and have never made a Steam account.
The Epic Store split is better for the industry. That's the perspective of most who are supporting the store for that reason I'd imagine, that's also part of the reasoning behind Epic's decision. It's better and healthier for the industry for people who make games to get more for it.
Whether or not it's a lesser product or how much so depends entirely on your perspective. If it is worse off, how much are you okay giving up? For some, giving up those Steam offerings is an easy choice if it means the creators are paid more, or they might not consider them meaningful.
So for you to imply to others that "We as customers shouldn't worry about that fee" is what's truly silly. Instead speak on what you value.
I guess devs don't like putting their game on a store that nobody uses?
Epic Store gives them a better split*, a store that already exclusively houses one of the most popular games in the world and potentially a moneyhat.
I could see Discord hitting two of those but you also have to factor in your decision the fact that nobody knows the store exists. I think this is relevant to a studio deciding how to release their game. I'm sure others will make other choices, there's clearly not a correct answer. I'm sure Steam is more attractive to most even with a worse cut of revenue just because it's the default PC gaming store for a lot of gamers. But, don't forget, the Epic launcher/store is probably the default gaming app for a hell of a lot of gamers too. Imagine how many people have that installed purely for Fortnite and have never made a Steam account.
*not the best, clearly
I seriously doubt Epic paid Ubi anything.
Which begs the question how many of those actually browse the Epic store daily to discover games and not just use it as a the Fortnite launcher and nothing more? How many of those millions of Fortnite users are actual customers for the shop? Guess we'll see.
Have we had any confirmation that Ubisoft have received payment to use the Epic storefront?
Have we had any confirmation that Ubisoft have received payment to use the Epic storefront?
I seriously doubt ubisoft would have made this decision if epic didn't give a bunch of cash.
Exactly. It's reasonable to believe that when Epic has done the same thing multiple times.The Division 2 was slated for Steam but removed because of Epic's sudden involvement. The same Epic that struck deals with indies to delay their games on Steam.
I mean, do you really think this stuff just happens with no monetary incentive?
They're not going to come out and tell you money exchanged hands.
Have we had any confirmation that Ubisoft have received payment to use the Epic storefront?
You have to take something into consideration: Fortnite is a F2P game. You just need to download the launcher, then download the game and you are good to go. If Fortnite Battle Royale had an introductory price, the situation would be completely different.But, don't forget, the Epic launcher/store is probably the default gaming app for a hell of a lot of gamers too. Imagine how many people have that installed purely for Fortnite and have never made a Steam account.
*not the best, clearly
They get more people buying directly from Uplay. Alsothe news about the deal is a good promo.There's literally no benefit for them to remove a game from one store in favor of another competitor unless they were paid to do so.
They aren't gonna disclose a contractual agreement between two groups to the public. It's worse PR than what is happening lol
Closest you will get is that press release announcement about the game coming to epic instead of steam
You wouldn't wanna show the Internet your family's will (if you had one ) , would you?
They get more people buying directly from Uplay. Alsothe news about the deal is a good promo.
I didn't actually think they had (or would), was just double checking because we're talking like it's gospel. Maybe a very well educated guess but was just checking I hadn't missed something.
You have to take something into consideration: Fortnite is a F2P game. You just need to download the launcher, then download the game and you are good to go. If Fortnite Battle Royale had an introductory price, the situation would be completely different.
Epic and many of these developers are taking a gamble to see if these players are willing to buy games in the store. Personally, I doubt it. They may be too invested in Fortnite already to buy another game and others just want to play a free games.
I also find quite interesting the lack of sales data, especially from a guy that used to show how many games were sold in Steam.
Last I remember on PC, microtransactions were inside the game, not in the store.Of course it's a free game. But it's also a game that millions of people throw money at and their card details need to be in the store already for that to happen. In the 'top downloads of 2018' chart that PSN put out Fortnite had 8 entries in the top 20 DLCs of the year. They had positions 1-7. That's a lot of Fortnite DLC purchases. I can only assume it's similar on PC. It's a free game but let's not pretend that everyone on PC is downloading it and then never using the Epic store. Fortnite prints money. People are already using the Epic store with their Epic accounts in droves.
Because itch.io is more known as being an indie game store rather than the store that Fortnite is exclusively on? I guess they're getting a better cut and putting their game on a store that millions of people already use.
They get more people buying directly from Uplay. Alsothe news about the deal is a good promo.
Worst is that in some countries like Argentina or Mexico, it is even more expensive than in the US.You mean a launcher that millions of people already use for a free to play game? Ubisofts games have been VERY successful on Steam. I really doubt that Ubisoft expects to earn more money on Epic's Store than on Steam.
It's very, very likely that Epic paid them to dump Steam in favor of Epic's Launcher. The fact that Epic and Ubisoft made a deal for several upcoming games as well, may indicate that Epic paid them a HUGE sum of money.
But despite that huge moneyhat AND the lower royalties, The Division 2 is still €59.99 on Epic's Store. It's f*cking sad...
That's some Machiavellian shit if Ubi did this to push people to uplay xD
Worst is that in some countries like Argentina or Mexico, it is even more expensive than in the US.
Of course it's a free game. But it's also a game that millions of people throw money at and their card details need to be in the store already for that to happen. In the 'top downloads of 2018' chart that PSN put out Fortnite had 8 entries in the top 20 DLCs of the year. They had positions 1-7. That's a lot of Fortnite DLC purchases. I can only assume it's similar on PC. It's a free game but let's not pretend that everyone on PC is downloading it and then never using the Epic store. Fortnite prints money. People are already using the Epic store with their Epic accounts in droves.
Worked on me, haha. Was planning to go Steam and now it'll be Uplay.
Sorry, it's getting really hard to tell things apart in these Epic moneyhat threads.
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Discord split is better for the industry yet we aren't seeing as much activity as epic store , I guess devs don't like money @_@
Epic's refund policy was changed to match Steam's (as of 1/9/2019).
https://epicgames.com/site/en-US/store-refund-policy
It is kinda funny how everyone says Epic is good for competition because that will fix Steam, but it seems like Steam is fixing Epic.
Doubt they will ever allow developers generate keys.My only other commentary is if Epic is going to start buying up all these exclusives, at the very least they can get some keys generated for sites like Green Man Gaming and Fanatical..
I don't think you've read any of the thread if you believe this.People really think UbiSoft would give up millions of Steam sales without compensation? I don't know how you could arrive at that conclusion.