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Xcell Miguel

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Oct 27, 2017
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France
Ugh, is anyone else getting massive drops and even literal freezes with the latest Nvidia 430.64 drivers on a 1070? Was perfectly fine before but now it will straight up freeze for a good second or two before catching up which I initially thought was lag but connection was fine.
Some games compute shaders while playing, the first time the shader is needed, maybe that's it ?
Shaders needs to be recomputed after a new driver is installed.
See if it gets better after some time.

Sometimes I get small freezes or stutter/lag but it seems to be caused by the network as my friend has some too randomly, and sometimes we can play hours without a single freeze.
 

Hero_of_the_Day

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
3,342
Ugh, is anyone else getting massive drops and even literal freezes with the latest Nvidia 430.64 drivers on a 1070? Was perfectly fine before but now it will straight up freeze for a good second or two before catching up which I initially thought was lag but connection was fine.
My brother and a friend both have been having massive stuttering for weeks now. My brother and I got through the main campaign no problem. Shortly after something changed and now the game just runs like shit for him. Really weird shit, and it doesn't seem be a widespread issue cause I don't really see others online complaining about it. And the game continues to run great for me.
 

Eorl

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Oct 30, 2017
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Some games compute shaders while playing, the first time the shader is needed, maybe that's it ?
Shaders needs to be recomputed after a new driver is installed.
See if it gets better after some time.

Sometimes I get small freezes or stutter/lag but it seems to be caused by the network as my friend has some too randomly, and sometimes we can play hours without a single freeze.
My brother and a friend both have been having massive stuttering for weeks now. My brother and I got through the main campaign no problem. Shortly after something changed and now the game just runs like shit for him. Really weird shit, and it doesn't seem be a widespread issue cause I don't really see others online complaining about it. And the game continues to run great for me.
It is definitely a graphical problem because it is literal freeze ups while playing and not just skating around and zapping back like what latency would do.


I've just reinstalled older drivers so I'll give my computer a restart and see how we go. It is just super weird considering the issues only appeared today after I updated drivers.
 

Hero_of_the_Day

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
3,342
Yeah, my brother's does the same thing. But, I can see it on my end. Like he'll be running and all this sudden look like he is going in slow motion kr even freeze in place for a quick second.
 

Vic_Viper

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Oct 25, 2017
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I cant seem to get the Grand Washington Hotel mission to switch to Invaded? Anyone know what I need to do to get the toggle to reappear? Do I need to do the Tidal Stronghold again or something?

EDIT: Wait, can you not toggle Invaded missions now!?! WTF
 

Klyka

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Oct 25, 2017
4,959
Germany
I cant seem to get the Grand Washington Hotel mission to switch to Invaded? Anyone know what I need to do to get the toggle to reappear? Do I need to do the Tidal Stronghold again or something?

EDIT: Wait, can you not toggle Invaded missions now!?! WTF
Grand Washington isn't invaded this week, so you can't do it invaded
 

Arcade55

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Oct 27, 2017
1,182
Alright after 81 hours I think it's time to put aside Division 2. At this point I'm mostly just bored when I play it. I've seen too much!

What a great game though I loved every hour of it and would recommend it to everyone!
 

Spartancarver

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Oct 27, 2017
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Alright after 81 hours I think it's time to put aside Division 2. At this point I'm mostly just bored when I play it. I've seen too much!

What a great game though I loved every hour of it and would recommend it to everyone!
Yep I'm at 80-ish hours and now just waiting for TU3 and the raid. 2 builds optimized and ready for tweaks after the patch.

Love this game. Easily the best looter shooter thus far
 
Oct 25, 2017
934
Calgary, AB
In the notes for the upcoming patch, when it says something along the lines of 500GS guaranteed to drop once your average is 500...does average just mean what you're wearing, or what you're capable of wearing?

My current gear score is 501, but that's inflated by a 515 piece that will drop with the patch. It's still a better build than anything I can make with 500 in every slot though. Just wondering if I'm going to have to run with a lesser build just to get 500 drops.
 

Arcade55

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Oct 27, 2017
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In the notes for the upcoming patch, when it says something along the lines of 500GS guaranteed to drop once your average is 500...does average just mean what you're wearing, or what you're capable of wearing?

My current gear score is 501, but that's inflated by a 515 piece that will drop with the patch. It's still a better build than anything I can make with 500 in every slot though. Just wondering if I'm going to have to run with a lesser build just to get 500 drops.
I remember a dev posting that GS is determined by your inventor as well. So just keep that higher gs item in your bag and it should work out for you.
 

Klyka

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Oct 25, 2017
4,959
Germany
In the notes for the upcoming patch, when it says something along the lines of 500GS guaranteed to drop once your average is 500...does average just mean what you're wearing, or what you're capable of wearing?

My current gear score is 501, but that's inflated by a 515 piece that will drop with the patch. It's still a better build than anything I can make with 500 in every slot though. Just wondering if I'm going to have to run with a lesser build just to get 500 drops.
Your gearscore looks at ALL your items, not just the ones you have equipped. So if you have enough items anywhere to form a full 500gs set, all your proper drops shall be 500
 
Oct 25, 2017
934
Calgary, AB
I remember a dev posting that GS is determined by your inventor as well. So just keep that higher gs item in your bag and it should work out for you.
Your gearscore looks at ALL your items, not just the ones you have equipped. So if you have enough items anywhere to form a full 500gs set, all your proper drops shall be 500
Beauty, other than some great rolls on some 490-ish weapons, most of what I have in my inventory is 500.
 

Japanonaut

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Oct 27, 2017
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Tokyo
Not sure why this game got such high praise. The levelling/endgame system is fucking awful and being forced to use shit guns due to level, because crafting system is terrible. DC is nowhere near as good as NY was in the first game. Really poorly thought out event spawns and the AI are ridiculously accurate. All this leads to very little fun.

I can see why matchmaking never yields a full team .
 

Hero_of_the_Day

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
3,342
So, as a new World Tier 5 player, what should I be doing for loot? I was quickly able to buy and build gear to get me up to 480. Did a couple of missions on heroic and did some bounties. I pretty much got jack fucking shit, and was constantly getting loot way lower than my gear score. Up until now it felt like I was constantly getting better stuff, now I am constantly getting shit.

Am I doing the wrong shit, or what?
 

Kadin

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Oct 25, 2017
2,777
US, California
Not sure why this game got such high praise. The levelling/endgame system is fucking awful and being forced to use shit guns due to level, because crafting system is terrible. DC is nowhere near as good as NY was in the first game. Really poorly thought out event spawns and the AI are ridiculously accurate. All this leads to very little fun.

I can see why matchmaking never yields a full team .
What do you mean having to use shit guns due to level? If you're referring to gearscore, you don't have to use them, they just have to be in your inventory or stash to raise you average. If you're referring to leveling 1-30, there's no need to have to keep them on-level.
 

Porky

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Mar 16, 2019
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I swear when I started the game, I could walk up to a mission start area and matchmake but now the missions just start and don’t give me a chance? Has something changed?
 

Japanonaut

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Oct 27, 2017
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Tokyo
What do you mean having to use shit guns due to level? If you're referring to gearscore, you don't have to use them, they just have to be in your inventory or stash to raise you average. If you're referring to leveling 1-30, there's no need to have to keep them on-level.
If I put on a gun I like, say its 100 levels below what I am, it drops my gearscore immediately. Im talking about leveling after 30
 

Ricker

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Oct 27, 2017
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I swear when I started the game, I could walk up to a mission start area and matchmake but now the missions just start and don’t give me a chance? Has something changed?
You dont have a panel at the entrance for side missions,only the main ones that need to be done on Story the first time around...?

So I read on a french site that the raid will drop this week along with the big update...? did they change their minds...?
 

Smash-It Stan

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Oct 25, 2017
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So, as a new World Tier 5 player, what should I be doing for loot? I was quickly able to buy and build gear to get me up to 480. Did a couple of missions on heroic and did some bounties. I pretty much got jack fucking shit, and was constantly getting loot way lower than my gear score. Up until now it felt like I was constantly getting better stuff, now I am constantly getting shit.

Am I doing the wrong shit, or what?
nope, that's the game. Wait for the patch and you'll get less garbage. Not NO garbage but definitely less
 

Hero_of_the_Day

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
3,342
nope, that's the game. Wait for the patch and you'll get less garbage. Not NO garbage but definitely less
Just fucking weird to grind things to a crawl at the end. I get that they are trying to keep people playing, but it is such a sudden change after 50 hours of constantly getting new and better gear, I literally thought I must be doing the wrong activities.
 

Kadin

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Oct 25, 2017
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If I put on a gun I like, say its 100 levels below what I am, it drops my gearscore immediately. Im talking about leveling after 30
And that doesn't affect anything beyond the threshold of getting to another world tier because you need to hit a certain number for the stronghold, etc. Gearscore doesn't have any other impact so use the weapon you like regardless if it lowers it. I can see a possible issue if you're right there on the cusp of going from say tier 4 to 5 but again, that should be a very rare scenario.

Just pointing that out in case you weren't aware. Some people think they need to have the highest equipped number to continue getting better drops (higher GS #'s) and that's simply not the case.
 

ParityBit

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Oct 25, 2017
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Is it dumb to go into the DZ by yourself? I am using my level 16 guy so I do not over level from my friend who does not play as often.

It just feels lonely and deadly out there ....
 

Kadin

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Oct 25, 2017
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Is it dumb to go into the DZ by yourself? I am using my level 16 guy so I do not over level from my friend who does not play as often.

It just feels lonely and deadly out there ....
If you're not aware, the game will scale your friend up close to your level if you join their group when you play. I've been doing this myself with multiple friends who all play at different times. I only have one character which is level 30 (500 gearscore) and I'm still able to run with them and help. They still get appropriate drops while mine are mostly just for selling/salvage. It works quite well all things considered.
 

ParityBit

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Oct 25, 2017
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If you're not aware, the game will scale your friend up close to your level if you join their group when you play. I've been doing this myself with multiple friends who all play at different times. I only have one character which is level 30 (500 gearscore) and I'm still able to run with them and help. They still get appropriate drops while mine are mostly just for selling/salvage. It works quite well all things considered.
Hrm. So it has no negative effects on him? I can do my missions and stuff and then just join him when he gets on? I was just trying to do non mission stuff and wait..
 

Kadin

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hrm. So it has no negative effects on him? I can do my missions and stuff and then just join him when he gets on? I was just trying to do non mission stuff and wait..
Yup. As soon as you join his group, his level will scale up close to you, usually like one level below it seems. You'll basically be in his instance so you'll see his map layout, what missions he has available to work on, etc. It's pretty cool how seamless it works. When you're done, you just leave group and go back to your own instance.

I play a LOT more than my other friends and initially I created a char for the first friend then found out how the scaling worked in groups. Worked perfectly with him, deleted the other alt char I made and have since helped 2 other friends level up to the early 20's with my main.
 

ParityBit

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yup. As soon as you join his group, his level will scale up close to you, usually like one level below it seems. You'll basically be in his instance so you'll see his map layout, what missions he has available to work on, etc. It's pretty cool how seamless it works. When you're done, you just leave group and go back to your own instance.

I play a LOT more than my other friends and initially I created a char for the first friend then found out how the scaling worked in groups. Worked perfectly with him, deleted the other alt char I made and have since helped 2 other friends level up to the early 20's with my main.
How does this effect his XP? Will he level faster or anything?
 

Kadin

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Oct 25, 2017
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How does this effect his XP? Will he level faster or anything?
I don't know the exact figures on the mechanic as to how much it's changed but my friends did seem to level up faster than what they said they were used to as solo. Hard to know how much that is based on just the group dynamic versus running missions faster as we tend to be quite focused when grouped up.
 

kriskrosbbk

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Oct 28, 2017
211
So with the invaded Capitol stronghold this week I now have the 4 parts for the Nemesis. But hey, now I need to wait random weeks till Washington Hotel becomes invaded so I can get the blueprint ?? What a nice system this is.
 

Xcell Miguel

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Oct 27, 2017
938
France
So with the invaded Capitol stronghold this week I now have the 4 parts for the Nemesis. But hey, now I need to wait random weeks till Washington Hotel becomes invaded so I can get the blueprint ?? What a nice system this is.
I've got the blueprint yesterday, no need for invaded missions I guess, me and my friend did all 3 after the Capitol in hard.
We already had two parts, the last two missions gave us the last parts, and the last one gave the blueprint also.
 
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kriskrosbbk

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Oct 28, 2017
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I've got the blueprint yesterday, no need for invaded missions I guess, me and my friend did all 4 after the Capitol in hard.
We already had two parts, the last two missions gave us the last parts, and the last one gave the blueprint also.
Can you confirm which mission gave you the blueprint? Also was it invaded? I thought only Washington Hotel is the one with the blueprint and this week it is not invaded.
 

Xcell Miguel

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Oct 27, 2017
938
France
Can you confirm which mission gave you the blueprint? Also was it invaded? I thought only Washington Hotel is the one with the blueprint and this week it is not invaded.
My friend found a French site explaining in which order the missions had to be done, the last one which gave the last part and the blueprint was Space Administration HQ, the final boss dropped both.
It was not invaded, none of the 3 missions we did (the Capitol was but we already had two parts).

The order in which we did it (had to be done on Hard) :
Viewpoint Museum
American History Museum
Space Administration HQ

EDIT : did not see the Nemesis mention, that's for Liberty.
 
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kriskrosbbk

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Oct 28, 2017
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My friend found a French site explaining in which order the missions had to be done, the last one which gave the last part and the blueprint was Space Administration HQ, the final boss dropped both.
It was not invaded, none of the 3 missions we did (the Capitol was but we already had two parts).

The order in which we did it (had to be done on Hard) :
Viewpoint Museum
American History Museum
Space Administration HQ
Thanks man! Now I wonder should I just go to Space HQ for the blueprint only or should do them in order. Will play around.
 

H3rTz DoNuT

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Oct 30, 2017
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My friend found a French site explaining in which order the missions had to be done, the last one which gave the last part and the blueprint was Space Administration HQ, the final boss dropped both.
It was not invaded, none of the 3 missions we did (the Capitol was but we already had two parts).

The order in which we did it (had to be done on Hard) :
Viewpoint Museum
American History Museum
Space Administration HQ
He's talking about nemesis sniper rifle. Pretty sure it only drops from BT guys.
 

Xcell Miguel

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Oct 27, 2017
938
France
Thanks man! Now I wonder should I just go to Space HQ for the blueprint only or should do them in order. Will play around.
He's talking about nemesis sniper rifle. Pretty sure it only drops from BT guys.
Oops sorry, I read too fast, those I posted are for Liberty, I did not see the Nemesis mention, my bad :/

From what I've read to get the Nemesis blueprint :
Play the Invaded mission of Grand Washington Hotel, kill the boss "Puck", if he does not drop it, restart.
I did not see any mention of difficulty level, but Hard is not that hard.
 

kriskrosbbk

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Oct 28, 2017
211
Oops sorry, I read too fast, those I posted are for Liberty, I did not see the Nemesis mention, my bad :/

From what I've read to get the Nemesis blueprint :
Play the Invaded mission of Grand Washington Hotel, kill the boss "Puck", if he does not drop it, restart.
I did not see any mention of difficulty level, but Hard is not that hard.
Problem is it is not invaded this week and it is a random event a mission to be.