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Slack Attack

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Oct 28, 2017
240
Yooooooo got booted from the PC ERA clan Rogue Ones! Clan message said to click on a google docs link in the discord but there isn't any place to find the discord link?

Can I get an invite back in? Ingame name is 'Slack.Attack'
 

GazzaGSi

Member
Oct 28, 2017
506
Derby, UK
I kept seeing the batteries, thinking, based on the icon the come with (at least on my game), that they were all for the same skill. I've deconstructed so many and now need to re-farm them for every skill but one (serve me right for not reading the description)l...But yeah, it's really nice (probably not the best fix to the overall problem) to not have these random parts of builds go completely unused.
Massive logic, make a skill battery for any skill look like a drone mod. Suppose a battery symbol would've been too confusing :)
 

Hero_of_the_Day

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
3,528
I've been too busy to play the last week and a half. Have they said anything about adjusting the raid at all, or are they happy with how hard it is?
 

Hero_of_the_Day

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
3,528
Nope the devs are leaving the raid exactly as it is.
Must admit I have put the game down for a bit until raid, loot and pvp is sorted.
Well, I hope they don't focus on raids for future content. 'Cause it sounds like I won't ever be doing it, then. Sounds too hard for me to enjoy. Guess I'll keep working on my nemesis the next couple of weeks and kind of be done for now.
 

Ricker

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,888
Beautiful Province of Quebec.
Guys,I still cant figure out how to make loadouts work,unless its not what I think it does...I am in game now,I click loadouts and I have like the default one or something,that looks like what I have equipped for now...if I go down to new,it tells me its to save the default one I have now in this new slot...ok,I do that but now the first loadout is still there and I cant do anything with it,I tried to overwrite the first one,since its in slot 2 now as well but does not help...does this let me switch between loadout 1,2,3 etc with different builds lets say in my main equipped screen or not...?

EDIT: Ok,I got part of it...it doesnt to save my 2 skill slots though when I go back and forth...working on that now lol.
 
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GazzaGSi

Member
Oct 28, 2017
506
Derby, UK
I've been too busy to play the last week and a half. Have they said anything about adjusting the raid at all, or are they happy with how hard it is?
Difficulty isn't being adjusted but what is not helping is that the AI is borked atm which they've acknowledged in the last state of the game. They're hoping once the AI is fixed the raid will be more doable rather than nerfing the raid itself.
 

BlockABoots

Member
Oct 27, 2017
716
So a friend has finally gotten the game and wantx to team up, im at level 30 and his only level 4, how does the game deal with mismatching levels like this, will my friends level 4 character be downed in 1 shot or will i end up just melting the enemies??. Not sure its its best to play like this or for me to create a new character so its balanced for both of us, only issue with that is my new character will get left behind as ill only be using that when playing with him??
 

DirtyLarry

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,386
So a friend has finally gotten the game and wantx to team up, im at level 30 and his only level 4, how does the game deal with mismatching levels like this, will my friends level 4 character be downed in 1 shot or will i end up just melting the enemies??. Not sure its its best to play like this or for me to create a new character so its balanced for both of us, only issue with that is my new character will get left behind as ill only be using that when playing with him??
I believe it all depends who joins whos group. I could be wrong here but that is always how it seemed to me. When some way higher people joined my group, they would just shred through enemies. When I attempted to join people who were higher than me, I had some issues.

With that said, if the game lets you have two characters (I believe it does I just do not know, never had a need), I would say start a new one. I went through all 30 Levels and WT's with the same friend and we pretty much did it all together. Sometimes I would jump a level or two or they would, but we always caught up with each other, and it was a damn good time. One of the better ones I have had it gaming in awhile. We also did it from scratch though, so we were experiencing it all together for the first time. I do recognize it will be a completely different experience since you already played it. But perhaps it will still be a good one depending on how good of a friend this is.
 

dm101

Member
Nov 13, 2018
569
Well, I hope they don't focus on raids for future content. 'Cause it sounds like I won't ever be doing it, then. Sounds too hard for me to enjoy. Guess I'll keep working on my nemesis the next couple of weeks and kind of be done for now.
Same for me. I'm not spending 5 hours on a raid where there is little hope that we'll even finish to begin with. Since reaching WT5 I've shelved the game.

It's too bad because the trip to WT5 was fantastic.
 

H3rTz DoNuT

Member
Oct 30, 2017
1,002
Man, I can't find good people for last boss. It just blows my mind with what gear people try to do last boss. Shit ain't that hard but if you can't find people with good gear and ability to listen and follow direction then you just not gonna do it.
 

BlockABoots

Member
Oct 27, 2017
716
So for the end game is it best to ignore the DMG, RPM and MAG numbers and just go by the score number?

Im still trying to figure out if its best to try and get a set of 3 equipment type to get the bonuses or just ignore that and only equip gear that with the highest score??
 

H3rTz DoNuT

Member
Oct 30, 2017
1,002
So for the end game is it best to ignore the DMG, RPM and MAG numbers and just go by the score number?

Im still trying to figure out if its best to try and get a set of 3 equipment type to get the bonuses or just ignore that and only equip gear that with the highest score??
Gear score does nothing in this game. You should focus on talents, attributes and bonuses that work for you or your build not gear score.
 

ParityBit

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,581
How do you guys manage mods? I have so many, green, blue. yellow. All different levels also. My stash is now full with yellow items too.
 

TheZynster

Member
Oct 26, 2017
5,566
got the gold edition off of someone for cheap due to the AMD promotion.

Guessing i have a ton of content to run through before i even think about end game lol
 

Hjod

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
2,764
Behind my desk.
So a friend has finally gotten the game and wantx to team up, im at level 30 and his only level 4, how does the game deal with mismatching levels like this, will my friends level 4 character be downed in 1 shot or will i end up just melting the enemies??. Not sure its its best to play like this or for me to create a new character so its balanced for both of us, only issue with that is my new character will get left behind as ill only be using that when playing with him??
I helped two friends and I just joined their session and we ran missions in no time, they leveled up like crazy.
 

cHinzo

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,207
So for the end game is it best to ignore the DMG, RPM and MAG numbers and just go by the score number?

Im still trying to figure out if its best to try and get a set of 3 equipment type to get the bonuses or just ignore that and only equip gear that with the highest score??
Just equip ur highest GS items until u are around 480. When u reach 480, keep ur eyes out on high attribute rolls and also keep gear with talents u would like to use in the future for recalibration. I usually take a quick look at these tables to check the attribute rolls.



I would btw prioritize attribute rolls first, then talents and at last the right brand.
 

Turkoop

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,213
Cologne, GERMANY
Just equip ur highest GS items until u are around 480. When u reach 480, keep ur eyes out on high attribute rolls and also keep gear with talents u would like to use in the future for recalibration. I usually take a quick look at these tables to check the attribute rolls.



I would btw prioritize attribute rolls first, then talents and at last the right brand.
Dude i was looking for this document. Where did you get it
 

SilentMike03

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,763
I'm usually running either a tank build or a DPS build, which means that none of my skill mods are EVER turned on. So basically I wait until my backpack is almost full and then go through and trash just about all of them. Feels bad man.
 

Ricker

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,888
Beautiful Province of Quebec.
Just equip ur highest GS items until u are around 480. When u reach 480, keep ur eyes out on high attribute rolls and also keep gear with talents u would like to use in the future for recalibration. I usually take a quick look at these tables to check the attribute rolls.



I would btw prioritize attribute rolls first, then talents and at last the right brand.
I am looking at this and trying to understand/compare to what I have right now...am I understanding right let's say for my True Patriot mask,if I have the whole set equipped,and if the mask is 500,I should have 30,500 health,etc etc for the other pieces...?
 

cHinzo

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Oct 27, 2017
1,207
I am looking at this and trying to understand/compare to what I have right now...am I understanding right let's say for my True Patriot mask,if I have the whole set equipped,and if the mask is 500,I should have 30,500 health,etc etc for the other pieces...?
No, it’s not about equiping a gear set. It’s about looking at a specific gear piece which u have, lets say, a True Patriot mask and compare the attributes to the max possible attributes in the table. If u have 20% Damage to Elites attribute on ur mask, looking at the table u would know it’s a low roll because the max roll is 55% so u could safely dismantle them.

Meanwhile, u should keep masks if they have something like a 44% Damage to Elite attribute, because those are high rolls and can be recalibrated onto ur lowly rolled True Patriot or other masks which u want to use.
 

ParityBit

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,581
Ignore any mods that aren't yellow. Mods are really pointless until you hit endgame
Yet level 18/19 blue mods are some of the best in the game lol
Also gotta look for those 5% weapon damage red mods. Just found one yesterday.
Damn right. Helps no end especially when they don't add to your pie chart of offensive attributes for the likes of Compensated (less than 3 offensive attributes).
Oh man, nothing is ever straight forward
 
Oct 25, 2017
977
Calgary, AB
These numbers are a real eye opener. Are these numbers actually possible still, or are they from lower gear score/world tiers or something? I thought I was rolling with near perfect rolls, having farmed a shit ton of activites/played all content in the game minus the raid at World Tier 5 multiple times and have been really meticulous in looking for great rolls...

-Mask, I have 38% DTE but apparently it can go up to 55%. My stat is considered "pretty good" but having looked at thousands of masks, I haven't seen anything higher than 38%. This is shocking to me.
-Chest, I have 15% headshot damage, but apparently it can go up to 28%. My stat is just considered "above average" but I have not seen anything higher.
- Holster, I have 566 skill power, but apparently it can go up to 820. Again, I have "above average."
- Kneepads, I have 11.5% armore rolled. "Very good" but still, again, never seen anything higher.
 

cHinzo

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,207
These numbers are a real eye opener. Are these numbers actually possible still, or are they from lower gear score/world tiers or something? I thought I was rolling with near perfect rolls, having farmed a shit ton of activites/played all content in the game minus the raid at World Tier 5 multiple times and have been really meticulous in looking for great rolls...

-Mask, I have 38% DTE but apparently it can go up to 55%. My stat is considered "pretty good" but having looked at thousands of masks, I haven't seen anything higher than 38%. This is shocking to me.
-Chest, I have 15% headshot damage, but apparently it can go up to 28%. My stat is just considered "above average" but I have not seen anything higher.
- Holster, I have 566 skill power, but apparently it can go up to 820. Again, I have "above average."
- Kneepads, I have 11.5% armore rolled. "Very good" but still, again, never seen anything higher.
From the guy who made the tables:

  • Realistically speaking the max rolls in most cases (i.e. items with more than one roll) might as well be unachievable - so many things need to roll perfectly to even allow a max roll to be rolled that it’s unrealistic to expect to ever find a piece with that roll on it. The “very good” rolls are already on the order of seeing them on 1 out of 100+ pieces and the max ones are way beyond that. If you’re thinking about optimized builds I would assume you can eventually find stats near the “very good”. Don’t plan to find things near max roll unless you’re talking about slots with a single attribute roll like some holsters and knee pads.
  • Similarly, the absolute minimum possible rolls in the table require maximum native armor rolls and as many common talents as possible.. also very unlikely to find. Most of the lowest rolls you will see will be roughly double than what's listed as absolute minimum in the tables
  • On the topic of rarity of max rolls I have the following napkin math for finding a 50%+ DTE roll on masks. First you need a gear set mask, maybe 10% of mask drops on a good day. From there you need native armor to roll in the bottom 10% of its range (10% of drops). From there since luckily there’s only two attributes you just need the DTE roll to be in the top 5% of its range (5% of drops). Overall that’s 0.05% of mask drops or 1 in 2,000 mask drops to find 50%+ dte. Add a third attribute like on chests and you’re looking at 1 in 10,000+ chests on average to get one with a near max possible roll.
Here are some screens of the highest rolls I've found so far. According to the Uplay stats I've looted 4187 items so far.



43% Damage to Elite mask



14.5% Weapon Damage vest



22.5% Headshot Damage vest



734 Skill Power Holster



24% Cooldown Reduction Holster



12% Weapon Damage Gloves
 
Oct 25, 2017
977
Calgary, AB
From the guy who made the tables:



Here are some screens of the highest rolls I've found so far. According to the Uplay stats I've looted 4187 items so far.
Thanks for this. I'm a little lower than you in looted items (more like 3,500), but probably more because of the number of items dropped from enemies that I just examine and leave or examine and deconstruct. Those are solid pieces you've come across!

For those who care:
There's a holster at the Campus Settlement with 14.5% critical hit chance (close to max roll) (and with Devastating).
There's a backpack at the Clan Vendor with 8% Weapon Damage (not near the max, but rare enough I haven't seen anything higher yet).
 
Nov 2, 2017
105
I built a 3/7/7 build, and honestly it feels like a downgrade over just stacking cooldown reduction and +10% DtE talents. What skills do people use in 3/7/7? Feels like I'm doing something wrong.
 
Oct 25, 2017
977
Calgary, AB
I built a 3/7/7 build, and honestly it feels like a downgrade over just stacking cooldown reduction and +10% DtE talents. What skills do people use in 3/7/7? Feels like I'm doing something wrong.
These are the best, I think, talents that require a configuration that a 3/7/7 breakdown allows. They mostly allow you to get the damage back that you'd be giving up by not having reds (or improve healing), while still stacking up on health/armor and a bit of skill support.
  • On The Ropes (7 or more utility) Weapon damage is increased by 25% while all skills are on cooldown.
  • Unstoppable Force (7 or more defensive) Killing an enemy grants 2% weapon damage for every 25,000 max armor.
  • Safeguard (4 or less offensive) Killing a target grants a 150% bonus to repairing and healing for 5 seconds. Can occur once every 20 seconds.
  • Compensated (3 or less offensive) Weapon damage is increased by 15% when your critical hit chance is below 20%.
  • Patience (6 or more defensive) After being in cover for 5 seconds, armor repairs by 5% every 1 second.
There are other ones that also have a bigger impact on skill builds, but I tend to avoid those as I'm underwhelmed by the skills this time.
 
Nov 2, 2017
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  • On The Ropes (7 or more utility) Weapon damage is increased by 25% while all skills are on cooldown.
  • Unstoppable Force (7 or more defensive) Killing an enemy grants 2% weapon damage for every 25,000 max armor.
  • Compensated (3 or less offensive) Weapon damage is increased by 15% when your critical hit chance is below 20%.
  • Patience (6 or more defensive) After being in cover for 5 seconds, armor repairs by 5% every 1 second.
Above is what I currently got + spotter(+damage on pulsed targets). It's 'on the ropes' that's confusing me. Taking quick skills to trigger 'on the ropes' just doesn't seem worth it. My previous build had flame turret on a 13 second cooldown and basically infinite heal launcher. But those don't mesh with 3/7/7. What skills make 'on the ropes' worth it?
 
Oct 25, 2017
977
Calgary, AB
Above is what I currently got + spotter(+damage on pulsed targets). It's 'on the ropes' that's confusing me. Taking quick skills to trigger 'on the ropes' just doesn't seem worth it. My previous build had flame turret on a 13 second cooldown and basically infinite heal launcher. But those don't mesh with 3/7/7. What skills make 'on the ropes' worth it?
I think most people use pulse + spotter and chem launcher heal (if I'm not mistaken, if even one charge is on cooldown its proc'd). If I'm not mistaken, those are basically always on cooldown, so On The Ropes is basically always active.
 

BlockABoots

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Oct 27, 2017
716
In World Tier 1, is there a way to stop the districts being red?, have done the main Control Points and Missions but the district still remains red??
 

ParityBit

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,581
So I have a ton of yellow level 30 weapons. I am not in WT1 yet, but my stash if full. How do I know what I should dump?
 
Oct 25, 2017
977
Calgary, AB
So how do I know the gs of the weapon/equipment? I do not see an actual number listed ...
It only starts displaying once hit world tier 1. Honestly, don't worry too much about specifics until you are WT5. Until WT1, equip high level gears, once you get to WT1, start equipping the highest gear score items (and buy new items if you need to to progress to the Strongholds). Once you get to WT5, you will be swimming in gear. You'll want to mainly grind your way up to 490+ gear score. At that point, a 490 item can be better for your build than a 500 one. Before that, don't worry too much about it.
 

Pat_DC

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Oct 27, 2017
308
It only starts displaying once hit world tier 1. Honestly, don't worry too much about specifics until you are WT5. Until WT1, equip high level gears, once you get to WT1, start equipping the highest gear score items (and buy new items if you need to to progress to the Strongholds). Once you get to WT5, you will be swimming in gear. You'll want to mainly grind your way up to 490+ gear score. At that point, a 490 item can be better for your build than a 500 one. Before that, don't worry too much about it.
This is all good advice but I'll sometimes not equip a higher GS item if it really effected by set up.
Like a higher GS piece of armor that meant a stat went way down (like skill power) or it stopped key talents from being activated.

As long as you have it in your inventory I'm pretty sure the game takes it into account. At least I haven't had any issues. :)
If you I needed a slightly higher GS to start a stronghold, I'd change out my equipment to start the mission but swap back to my more optimised gear, of slightly lower GS, once the mission started.
 
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Azerach

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Oct 29, 2017
704
For those who care:
There's a holster at the Campus Settlement with 14.5% critical hit chance (close to max roll) (and with Devastating).
There's a backpack at the Clan Vendor with 8% Weapon Damage (not near the max, but rare enough I haven't seen anything higher yet).
Thanks.

There's also a Strained submachine gun at the campus vendor, which is exactly what i was looking for yesterday.. Might try a strained / zerk build with 13 sec cooldown reviver for funsies.