The DualShock 4 Back Button Attachment attachment is available now

Arukado

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Oct 27, 2017
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I dont know if this is exclusive to Game in my country, cause amazon.es doesn't have it, but i was finally able to preorder 2 units on amazon.it. I'd rather pay extra than go to fucking Game.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Finally got one yesterday (Best Buy, shipped to a store) and I love it.

Wish it had four buttons instead of two, but being able to jump and aim at the same time is still worth it.
 

Unaha-Closp

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Oct 25, 2017
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Got mine today, Game Exclusive in the UK of all things, and only tried it out on The Witcher 3. Mapped one to X and the other to L3. Can sprint while moving Geralt and aiming the Camera and call Roach all with ease. I'm sure I'll find a better use but the disc was in the machine and it what I tested it on. Will take some getting used to as the controller now has a different profile in my hands but it's not all that different of a feel.
 

TheRulingRing

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Apr 6, 2018
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Yeah, I bought two because I have two controllers and use them both. Once the battery is depleted, I plug it in to be charged and grab the other one off the charger. I'm trying to decide if I actually need two. Removing them and attaching them is a bit cumbersome and I'm worried if fitment will be affected if I am continuously removing and reattaching them. I'm just lazy of course too, haha.
I have the same conundrum :(

Don't really want to have to buy two.
 

TMC

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Oct 27, 2017
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I have the same conundrum :(

Don't really want to have to buy two.
I ended up just keeping one and selling the other one. It's not too much of a problem to just swap out the back button attachment. I thought it was going to be a pain each time because the first time was a bit of a hassle. No regrets.
 

TheRulingRing

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Apr 6, 2018
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Just got mine and I can't lie the buttons are more bulky than expected, keep pressing them accidentally.

I'm gonna have to change my grip a decent amount to get used to this.

I ended up just keeping one and selling the other one. It's not too much of a problem to just swap out the back button attachment. I thought it was going to be a pain each time because the first time was a bit of a hassle. No regrets.
That's good to hear thanks.
 

TMC

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Oct 27, 2017
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Just got mine and I can't lie the buttons are more bulky than expected, keep pressing them accidentally.

I'm gonna have to change my grip a decent amount to get used to this.



That's good to hear thanks.
I was doing the same thing. I actually thought I was going to have to return it because it just felt awkward. One of my right fingers also cramped up after playing CoD for only an hour. Luckily, it hasn't happened since. I can easily play games now where I don't utilize the back buttons without accidentally pressing them. Takes some time to rewire your brain to actually use them too. I remember thinking I wanted to press the back button, but I would press something else. Now that I've had it for a few weeks, I couldn't imagine going back.
 

White Glint

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Oct 25, 2017
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I just tried setting the third profile to empty binds and it deleted the third profile.
Then I did the same to the second profile.
I dare not do it to the main profile.

Is there no way to create an empty profile and how do I get back the other profiles?
 

cakely

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Oct 27, 2017
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I just tried setting the third profile to empty binds and it deleted the third profile.
Then I did the same to the second profile.
I dare not do it to the main profile.

Is there no way to create an empty profile and how do I get back the other profiles?
You can't set a profile to a completely empty bind.

Double-click the big button to cycle between the three profiles.
 

MrBS

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Oct 27, 2017
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Hook up the back button attachment, it works! Became a fingerprint magnet instantly, wipe it down with a microfiber cloth, scratches to shit instantly, lol. Good thing I wont be looking at the back too often :p
 

JamboGT

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Oct 25, 2017
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Used it over the weekend, playing Modern Warfare I set them to jumo and crouch. They feel nice and natural to use and the buttons have a good clikcy feel. I just need to remember that they are actually there to use!
 

Dan Thunder

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Nov 2, 2017
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Picked one up from GAME (shudder) on Saturday and it's really nice. Been practicing using it for gear changes in GT Sport and it feels really good. Wasn't sure when I first saw picture but it doesn't feel unwieldy.

Did chuckle to myself when the assistant in GAME was selling a copy of Dreams to this guy next to me and was giving him the hard sell on the back button saying how Dreams has been advertised with it so it'd be be really beneficial to get it alongside the title. Fortunately he said he'd give it some thought as I nearly jumped in and explained how they're not extra buttons as the assistant said but just let you move two of them.

Honestly, that store is just garbage.
 

Marble

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Nov 27, 2017
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Used it over the weekend, playing Modern Warfare I set them to jumo and crouch. They feel nice and natural to use and the buttons have a good clikcy feel. I just need to remember that they are actually there to use!
I would recommend using Tactical layout, so crouch is sitting under R3 and then map jump + reload/melee to the paddles.

I've been using this thing since Friday. Took me some getting used to after a couple of years with the Strike Pack, but being wireless is so good. And The Witcher 3 is practically unplayable without this thing. Sprinting on your horse or with Geralt and all the precise looting. So much better.
 

BeImonkey

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Dec 9, 2017
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Haven't used mine too much yet because Divinity 2 is so slow paced that I haven't really needed it.

Found a nice use case on PC though: move the Options functionality to the touchpad click, then bind a grip button to the options button and use it like a unique button for stuff like triggering gyro, mode-shifting dpad and button pad into other functions, etc.
 

tzare

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Oct 27, 2017
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So, no really interested in this device at first, but reading impressions seems it may be a good fit for certain games. Does anyone use it for fighting games?
 

Iucidium

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Oct 25, 2017
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Been learning to use this in Destiny 2 (LP-X, RP-O) and GTSport (Paddles as gears) and it's bloody good! I'm confused how folk are accidentally pressing them.
 

dedge

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Sep 15, 2019
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I've been really enjoying using this on Ace Combat 7 lately, have the left button for changing targets (triangle) and the right for firing missiles (circle) which I think has minimized face button travel since you still need to use square and x/cross as well.
 

Marble

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Nov 27, 2017
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I have to say, i really like this back button thing. Not having to click sticks anymore is really nice.
Are you just using this for pressing L3 and R3? That's like the biggest waste of the added buttons I can think of. Both are literally already underneath your thumbs 99% of the time and don't limit control like at all.
 

8byte

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Oct 28, 2017
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I use mine for some games, but not for all. Love it with GT Sport and Overwatch. Getting used to it in Crash Team Racing. Also works fantastically for DMC5.

So, no really interested in this device at first, but reading impressions seems it may be a good fit for certain games. Does anyone use it for fighting games?
Probably not great for fighting games unless you don't play "super seriously". My only experience playing fighting games requires me to use a claw grip, which means the buttons are utterly useless. You can't program macros to them, only single button inputs.
 

TitlePending

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Dec 26, 2018
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Been learning to use this in Destiny 2 (LP-X, RP-O) and GTSport (Paddles as gears) and it's bloody good! I'm confused how folk are accidentally pressing them.
I have long fingers, and it happens when I use R3 or L3. Definitely noticable in Apex Legends when I'm dashing, while having jump bonded to LP.

I'll try it for other games but it's becoming more of an annoyance than helpful.

Hopefully the DS5 design makes this less of an issue.
 

RROCKMAN

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Oct 25, 2017
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So, no really interested in this device at first, but reading impressions seems it may be a good fit for certain games. Does anyone use it for fighting games?
I use mine for some games, but not for all. Love it with GT Sport and Overwatch. Getting used to it in Crash Team Racing. Also works fantastically for DMC5.




Probably not great for fighting games unless you don't play "super seriously". My only experience playing fighting games requires me to use a claw grip, which means the buttons are utterly useless. You can't program macros to them, only single button inputs.
Oh hell yes, using them for fighters is super fun, because while 8byte mentions you can only use them for single button inputs, you can use it creatively to make certain combos easier to preform without having to use a crazy claw grip.

One example is in Garou. There is a special version of terry’s power dunk that lets you cancel it if you press a shoulder button almost a couple frames after you do the motion with a face button.

Timing the input with my thumb and pointer was a pain in the ass without reconfiguring controls and then you would have to relearn your moves. With these back buttons I putt the button I need to hit to cancel on the right bumper and I can activate it faster than pressing l1 or r1 and can do it flawlessly now.

Honestly think they might be banned because I can see this allowing for some links that were very strict to be easy now.
 

Zephyriel

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Oct 27, 2017
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Should have listened to the early war'ing from the american users here. I can't find it anywhere in France. I have my preorder on standby at the FNAC.
 

8byte

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Oct 28, 2017
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Oh hell yes, using them for fighters is super fun, because while 8byte mentions you can only use them for single button inputs, you can use it creatively to make certain combos easier to preform without having to use a crazy claw grip.

One example is in Garou. There is a special version of terry’s power dunk that lets you cancel it if you press a shoulder button almost a couple frames after you do the motion with a face button.

Timing the input with my thumb and pointer was a pain in the ass without reconfiguring controls and then you would have to relearn your moves. With these back buttons I putt the button I need to hit to cancel on the right bumper and I can activate it faster than pressing l1 or r1 and can do it flawlessly now.

Honestly think they might be banned because I can see this allowing for some links that were very strict to be easy now.
Yea, I can imagine for people who don't use claw grip it could be useful. I'm not sure I could re-train my brain to play Tekken w/out using the claw grip...though I imagine that this would make pulling off King's infamous Rolling Death Cradle much easier (not that it has any utility in competitive play, but it's super fun to pull off on your friends when they come over for casual matches, lol).
 

sugarless

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Nov 2, 2017
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Are you just using this for pressing L3 and R3? That's like the biggest waste of the added buttons I can think of. Both are literally already underneath your thumbs 99% of the time and don't limit control like at all.
I think using other buttons is a more effective use of the device, but also a lot of people find it hard to push in the sticks without doing accidental stick direction inputs, and/or find it really doesn't "feel" good to press sticks in like that.
 

banter

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Jan 12, 2018
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Are you just using this for pressing L3 and R3? That's like the biggest waste of the added buttons I can think of. Both are literally already underneath your thumbs 99% of the time and don't limit control like at all.
This is a item of very subjective use, so what is ideal for me may not be ideal for you, and vice versa.

For me, its use depends on the game and borderlands 3 is all ive used it for (so far) and yes, I used it for l3 and r3. Clicking sticks is cancer and nothing you say will change my mind about it. I already do significantly better using the back button for this (being able to melee while panning the camera makes a big difference, especially when there are a lot of enemies). I just got it (the back button) and have only played borderlands 3 with it. I, sadly, don’t have the luxury of playing everyday and when I do it’s not always for an extended period. I got on and my friends were on playing borderlands so i joined them. So that is the only thing I can comment on about it so far.
 

Arukado

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Oct 27, 2017
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Mine arrived an hour ago and i've been playing a little bit with it (mostly some MHW hunts): the buttons are decent, with a nice click feel on them, but i dont like their position and i think they break the ergonomics of the controller a little bit (if you grip the controller your middle fingers rest on them, which may lead to some unwanted presses).

It doesnt help that i'm used to a modded controller where i use my ring fingers instead, so yeah, i'ts gonna take a while for me to get used to it.
 

Shift Breaker

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Oct 25, 2017
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I've given it a go now and found it really handy for--of all things--Assassin's Creed: Revelations. I'd initially went for having L3 and R3 for Eagle Vision and camera centralisation but given how much you need to claw in this game, X and R2 have made general gameplay so much more comfy.

Looking forward to giving it a go with a more intense game.
 

sugarless

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Nov 2, 2017
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Mine arrived an hour ago and i've been playing a little bit with it (mostly some MHW hunts): the buttons are decent, with a nice click feel on them, but i dont like their position and i think they break the ergonomics of the controller a little bit (if you grip the controller your middle fingers rest on them, which may lead to some unwanted presses).

It doesnt help that i'm used to a modded controller where i use my ring fingers instead, so yeah, i'ts gonna take a while for me to get used to it.
Nice, did you use them on MHW to access your shortcut wheels? I don't feel like getting back into that game but that's definitely where I would use the back buttons.
 

Arukado

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Oct 27, 2017
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Nice, did you use them on MHW to access your shortcut wheels? I don't feel like getting back into that game but that's definitely where I would use the back buttons.
I've been using the right paddle (mapped to R3 on my modded controller) to confirm actions on the radial menu (type 2), that way i have to press a button to confirm which action i want to use after selecting it with the stick direction, which is extremely useful, fast and reliable.

For example, i can tell you by memory that the two mantles i use are down and down-right, nullberries are left, made megapotions is on the right, etc.

And that is exactly what i tested with the attachment.
 

SpotAnime

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Dec 11, 2017
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Mine arrived an hour ago and i've been playing a little bit with it (mostly some MHW hunts): the buttons are decent, with a nice click feel on them, but i dont like their position and i think they break the ergonomics of the controller a little bit (if you grip the controller your middle fingers rest on them, which may lead to some unwanted presses).

It doesnt help that i'm used to a modded controller where i use my ring fingers instead, so yeah, i'ts gonna take a while for me to get used to it.
I haven't play-tested mine yet, but that's how I feel the Scuf controllers are. I have to really practice to get used to NOT hitting those paddles, because of how I'm used to gripping the controller. I don't know if the Elite is any better/different, but I would imagine that's just an inherent characteristic of paddle-controllers.
 

jasius

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Oct 28, 2017
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I play tested mine with Division 2, I bound the left button to X and the right button to Square, the X button works good, but these buttons aren't good for buttons that have to be held down repeatedly, there was hand pain after 2 hours of Division 2 in my right hand from holding down the right button(square) everytime I had to loot things. This doesn't happen with the Xbox Elite controller, they're back paddles have a little more give.

Another odd ergonomic thing that nobody talks about, is that it makes the PS Button further away to find with your fingers, not a huge deal, just an odd thing.

Overall the attachment feels good, the added weight is noticeable, it's not so bad.


TL;DR: Buttons good for quick presses, not for buttons you have to hold repeatedly.


EDIT: Also it would have been nice if they could have figured out a way to make it 4 buttons instead of just 2.
 
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sugarless

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Nov 2, 2017
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I play tested mine with Division 2, I bound the left button to X and the right button to Square, the X button works good, but these buttons aren't good for buttons that have to be held down repeatedly, there was hand pain after 2 hours of Division 2 in my right hand from holding down the right button(square) everytime I had to loot things. This doesn't happen with the Xbox Elite controller, they're back paddles have a little more give.

Another odd ergonomic thing that nobody talks about, is that it makes the PS Button further away to find with your fingers, not a huge deal, just an odd thing.

Overall the attachment feels good, the added weight is noticeable, it's not so bad.


TL;DR: Buttons good for quick presses, not for buttons you have to hold repeatedly.
Personally I used it for X and O in Division 2 i.e. going into cover and vaulting over cover/obstacles. I don't like auto vault as it tends to see me climbing over things I wanted to hide behind just as I take a face full of lead, but I also used to find it hard to stab at the right button in an intense firefight. After only a few sessions, left paddle as go into cover and right as jump over it has become second nature!
 

mausterhunter

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Feb 1, 2019
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I've been using the right paddle (mapped to R3 on my modded controller) to confirm actions on the radial menu (type 2), that way i have to press a button to confirm which action i want to use after selecting it with the stick direction, which is extremely useful, fast and reliable.
I'm using it the same way, and it is very smooth. Mapping R3 to back paddle also makes it way easier to change the Slinger mode, which is especially great for executing Thousand Dragons on Bow and Perfect Rush on SNS.
 

mogster7777

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Oct 27, 2017
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What are some good suggestions to use this with for single player games. I play ffxiv too but can’t seem to really figure out why this would be useful.
 

HardRojo

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Oct 25, 2017
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I’m gonna need this for Sekiro. For some reason when I want to heal, instead of just pressing up on the Dpad I keep pressing diagonal and it changes the item and uses it, very annoying 🙁
 

Velguarder

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Jan 10, 2020
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I was pleasantly surprised with how much I was using this.
I forgot to put it away this morning and the puppy got it when I was at work. RIP little bumper buddy. 1/22/2020 - 2/18/2020
 

TikeMyson1308

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Nov 23, 2017
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can anyone compare how these feel compared to the StrikeForce ones?
Yeah, I switched to these from Strikepack last weekend and I like it much more. It takes a bit of getting used to it because the back button attachment is a bit more on the dualshock while the Strikepack paddles are a bit lower and more on the inside. Also the back button attachment is a bit more responsive than the strikepack. I don't think I'll ever return to the Strikepack, since the back button attachment feels much better.
 

Maximus

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Oct 27, 2017
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I got this attachment and was excited, but I feel it really messes with how I grip the controller. It’s also pretty foreign to use. The attachment itself is good, though I’m not sure if I like how it affects how I hold it.
 

Majik13

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah, I switched to these from Strikepack last weekend and I like it much more. It takes a bit of getting used to it because the back button attachment is a bit more on the dualshock while the Strikepack paddles are a bit lower and more on the inside. Also the back button attachment is a bit more responsive than the strikepack. I don't think I'll ever return to the Strikepack, since the back button attachment feels much better.
awesome thanks
 

Doombear

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Oct 25, 2017
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What are some good suggestions to use this with for single player games. I play ffxiv too but can’t seem to really figure out why this would be useful.
I find that anything you want to be able to quickly get to is good for the paddles as a general (and likely very obvious) rule of thumb. That could be a jump button, or even a d-pad button. Anything that you find slows you down because you have to take your thumb off the left or right stick to reach said button. I am loving mine right now for the Vanquish remaster. I have Burst (R1) on left paddle and Dodge (X) on right. This makes it so I never have to stop looking down sight to burts or stop camera control to dash. That said, some people use two fingers on the bumpers/triggers (one on L1 and one on L2 for example) and that has just never been comfortable to me.

can anyone compare how these feel compared to the StrikeForce ones?
Sure. I have both and the Strikeforce paddles just never got comfortable to me. Their placement just got in my way more than these. I like that on these paddles there is a very small area where you actually need to press. You can actually rest your hands on the middle of the paddles comfortably with these. That said, you won't have any turbo functionality on these like you do with Strikeforce paddles. So I still switched back to that for MH Steamworks during the latest Event there.

I forgot to put it away this morning and the puppy got it when I was at work. RIP little bumper buddy. 1/22/2020 - 2/18/2020
Aww, you will be missed small paddle friend. =(