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The EDGE 10/10 list - What are your thoughts on it?
- Thread starter Phendrift
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Surprised at LBP and Skyward Sword. Not sure how to feel about retroactively scoring 10s, but that is a solid list too. No idea what Drop7, Elite or Exile are tho.
I agree with them. I think they are to harsh in general but have a pretty good sense of what is quality.
Keep in mind that LBP offers a ton of user created content and great tools to do so. It got the 10 more on growth potential than platforming chops.
Keep in mind that LBP offers a ton of user created content and great tools to do so. It got the 10 more on growth potential than platforming chops.
There are too many games on the list is my personal feeling. If I had anything to say about the list, everything after TLOU wouldn't be on there. Not saying there aren't great games on the list past it, just nothing in my personal opinion that is "perfect"
Good on them retroactively going back and giving Dark Souls a 10 though.
Good on them retroactively going back and giving Dark Souls a 10 though.
GTA 4's review scores will forever be proof that games media are just as susceptible, if not more so, to hype as the broader gaming community.
In retrospect it is kind of okay because Lost & the Damned + Ballad of Gay Tony are exceptional, but holy moly vanilla GTA4 is not a good game.
You may be joking, but I have always felt this, even since the 90s. They just looooove Nintendo.
It's a pretty good list. It has some omissions, but the inclusions are all fine except Skyward Sword. That one seems like a "hype of the moment" kinda thing.
GTA4 did a lot of thing right on the open world design and features , it featured a rich open world with plenty of events that was only outpaced by GTA5 later.. I think GTA4 is really a master class of game design even if some of their idea didn't age well , at the times they were mostly bold choices.
It's a good list overall. Skyward Sword is one of the controversial picks but I know plenty of people who absolutely love it. Its missing Metroid Prime for me.
They all seem like sane opinions to hold. Even the ones I disagree with don't seem nonsensical on the surface.
I never much liked Little Big Planet's controls, but it was definitely doing things that no console game was attempting to do all at once, back then. 4 player with super polished, if complex, level editor ....that's someone's 10/10, sure.
GTA 4 was the first time I actually saw a game do what people were, in my opinion, imagining GTA 3 did which is successfully combine the gameplay of multiple genres in an open world game. Shooting in GTA 4 felt like shooting in an action game that people would charge full price for and same went for the driving. Still a jack of all trades, but it wasn't passing every test with D+/C- grades anymore. 10/10...fair enough...
Skyward Sword's controls literally didn't work in my living room at the time. After I moved, it seemed to work well enough for my brother-in law...if the game functions correctly and remote doesn't need recalibraritng every couple of minutes...sure, might be a great game.
I never much liked Little Big Planet's controls, but it was definitely doing things that no console game was attempting to do all at once, back then. 4 player with super polished, if complex, level editor ....that's someone's 10/10, sure.
GTA 4 was the first time I actually saw a game do what people were, in my opinion, imagining GTA 3 did which is successfully combine the gameplay of multiple genres in an open world game. Shooting in GTA 4 felt like shooting in an action game that people would charge full price for and same went for the driving. Still a jack of all trades, but it wasn't passing every test with D+/C- grades anymore. 10/10...fair enough...
Skyward Sword's controls literally didn't work in my living room at the time. After I moved, it seemed to work well enough for my brother-in law...if the game functions correctly and remote doesn't need recalibraritng every couple of minutes...sure, might be a great game.
No offense but it is hard for me to see direct sequels which are very similar to the previous iteration as "revolutionary," which is their definition of 10/10.
Like, I get it, Super Mario Galaxy 2 is a near perfect platformer. But honestly none of the new features are really all that revolutionary compared to Galaxy 1.Likewise, the Orange Box is a great value. But how can putting a bunch of games which already exist together into one box itself be considered a revolution? That idea was already executed extremely well back on SNES with Super Mario All-Stars.
Like, I get it, Super Mario Galaxy 2 is a near perfect platformer. But honestly none of the new features are really all that revolutionary compared to Galaxy 1.
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Weird that there isn't a single 10/10 between 1988 and 1996. I'm surprised there wasn't a game released in the years between that they would want to revisit and retroactively award top marks to. Monkey Island and Lemmings should definitely be there.
Aside from that, it's a good list. Edge are usually pretty on point.
Aside from that, it's a good list. Edge are usually pretty on point.
The Orange Box wasn't a bunch of games that already existed. It was the very first release for Half-Life 2: Episode 2, Portal, and Team Fortress 2. You could make solid arguments for 10s for any one of those, let alone all of them on one disc.
No way in hell Skyward Sword is a 10, not even in Famitsu terms, let alone in EDGE terms
I can't even make an imaginary argument trying to justify it
I can't even make an imaginary argument trying to justify it
That's not without reason. It's just an opinion though, and a better list than most.
Truth bomb. One of the best Zelda games I've played. Folks here can't appreciate quality like us cats
I think Little Big Planet and GTA IV are definitely more egregious.
Little Big Planet and Skyward Sword on that list are big ones that stick out to me as "Oh okay."
Rock Band 3 too but, I know little of that series. I remember people loving Rock Band 2 more so idk.
I agree with Advance Wars of course though :v.
Rock Band 3 too but, I know little of that series. I remember people loving Rock Band 2 more so idk.
I agree with Advance Wars of course though :v.
Arguably the greatest character action games ever made, depending on who you ask, so yes definitely 10/10/
Of the ones I've played, the ones I most strongly disagree with are Skyward Sword and GTAIV. Those games were like...6/10 for me tops.
My thoughts are: it is a list with a bunch of games a known publication praised and rated with maximum score.
I don't work there so disagreeing or not is pointless, just like arbitrary scores, or this comment. :v
Inb4 "it sparkles discussion", nah, it sparkles endless arguments based on a entirely subjective opinion where the only conclusion is "I like 'X' game better than your 'Y'". We fall back to zero and loop around.
I don't work there so disagreeing or not is pointless, just like arbitrary scores, or this comment. :v
Inb4 "it sparkles discussion", nah, it sparkles endless arguments based on a entirely subjective opinion where the only conclusion is "I like 'X' game better than your 'Y'". We fall back to zero and loop around.
I came here to see if Bloodborne & The Last of Us made the list.
I'm leaving extremely satisfied.
Hot Take: GTAIV is absolutely undeserving of the 10.
I'm leaving extremely satisfied.
Hot Take: GTAIV is absolutely undeserving of the 10.
I agree with the list other than Skyward Sword and The Last of Us. I just didn't enjoy either of those games but I can see why some people did like them.
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (1998)
The Orange Box (2007)
The Last of Us (2013)
Grand Theft Auto V (2013)
Bloodborne (2015)
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (2017)
ResidentEvil 4 (2005)
Red Dead Redemption (2010)
Dark Souls (2011)
Wouldn't necessarily give all these 10/10 but I can understand the argument. Also Bloodborne is their most deserving 'perfect' score.
The Orange Box (2007)
The Last of Us (2013)
Grand Theft Auto V (2013)
Bloodborne (2015)
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (2017)
ResidentEvil 4 (2005)
Red Dead Redemption (2010)
Dark Souls (2011)
Wouldn't necessarily give all these 10/10 but I can understand the argument. Also Bloodborne is their most deserving 'perfect' score.
I'd give Skyward Sword a 10/10 if it had managed to prove the concept of motion controls implemented in a major hardcore game, which is the only reason why I could imagine the game could be considered "revolutionary" and get a 10
but Red Steel 2 pisses from high above all over SS in that department, RS2 is a MAJOR revelation in motion controls whereas in SS it ranges from serviceable/ok to clunky.
so for me a 9/10 would have been the right score for it.
but Red Steel 2 pisses from high above all over SS in that department, RS2 is a MAJOR revelation in motion controls whereas in SS it ranges from serviceable/ok to clunky.
so for me a 9/10 would have been the right score for it.
