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The Flash S5 |OT| The Bitchin' House of Ls
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Well, that's pretty much how it's been. The big bad seems to get worse every season.
Can't wait for the future season when Team Flash takes 24 episodes to stop a 4 year old from snatching candy from & escaping on his tricycle.
Well, yea.
Reviewers high on that Jitters, confirmed.
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I'm a sucker for time loop episodes but damn that ending was rough. The more you think on it,the worse it is. The had full knowledge of where he would be and how he would attack. Yet they came up with a push. I would have loved a moment where a big bad is taken out without Barry, showing just how much the team has grown. The dagger hitting him,should have lead to an attack combo to knock him out, then pipeline him or something.
What's more is that the consequences of the 52 rewinds could have created a great new plot and even tie into the thawne plot and given Barry something to solve, e.g. thawne is now free or something.
Yet we get cicada just flying off like team rocket and nora and the team of "geniuses" looking on dumbstruck.
Damn the show has reached an all time low.
What's more is that the consequences of the 52 rewinds could have created a great new plot and even tie into the thawne plot and given Barry something to solve, e.g. thawne is now free or something.
Yet we get cicada just flying off like team rocket and nora and the team of "geniuses" looking on dumbstruck.
Damn the show has reached an all time low.
He should of been dealt with a long time ago. The episode before the crossover should of been it. He has overstayed his welcome, why come up with all these ways of out smarting Cicada but then just dragging it on and on we already seen that they didn't even need the cure for him to take him down lol.
Wait, so she went through that loop 52 times? How? We saw all the people that Cicada would've abducted in the first 5 tries. And Nora kept bringing them all together and not letting them go after they died the first time. Who was getting killed the other 47 times?
Well she said there were also instances where everyone but her died I think, so add that as well
I feel like at this point next season will just be more Thawne, I don't think theres any one else they can do at this point as a villain or do you think they will try actual multiple arcs?
At this point they're definitely leading to Nora's version of Cicada. They always beat him/her, monologue, and Cicada always gets away. Cicada just hides for a long while and reemerges every 2-5 episodes (lol).
So they never "beat" Cicada. They're just going to ignore Cicada until Cicada shows up and shit is repeated ad infinitum.
So they never "beat" Cicada. They're just going to ignore Cicada until Cicada shows up and shit is repeated ad infinitum.
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Yeah I guess it's gonna be they think they've beaten Cicada (and they have) but then Grace-Cicada shows up in the future and Nora has to use her skills to stop her
When's Eobard
When's Eobard
Yeah, I think I was partially right in November. Except instead of Klein Cicada eventually getting awesome, the Cicada persona just goes away and Grace takes on the mantle years later, so Cicada re-emerges.
Yup. I mean..... I get it, I guess? It's just kind of tiring to see the end result being the same without introducing another big bad. Running theme is that they keep botching up the execution of these big bads. The concept is decent but they just can't pull it off.
Why is it this hard to take down Cicada? Every other major villain was absurdly more powerful and capable. Like I'm more alarmed that Nora failed 50+ times than anything else
The only reason he's hard to take down is because the writers need that to be the case. There's literally no other reason, it's just plot armour.
Nora having trouble kinda made sense with the whole "fixed point' explanation, where somebody is fated to die at that point and the best you can do is change who dies. Until, of course, they all put their heads together and come up with the brilliant plan to just shove him, which I guess the universe considers equivalent.
I completely get that but, with all of the villain's the teams have faced and with how much experience they have, especially Barry, it's just not believable for them to struggle this much. Had they had a different big bad, one who was truly powerful and intelligent, I wouldn't have an issue but Cicada just comes off as a villain of the week sort of villain that they stretched out to hell and back because they didn't know what else to do
Yeah, that's the part that gets me. I don't know. When Barry time traveled way back when to save everyone, it was handled much much better. With this, I felt nothing but frustration, especially with the solution
Episode wasn't quite as bad as a lot comments seem to be painting it as, however it was probably the least interesting time loop/groundhog day-style episode of a TV show that I can remember. Which is significant since that gimmick is practically always a sure bet.
She saves Barry from the satellite, rewinds time and pushes Klein's character out of the way of the shard so he never becomes Cicada. Then returns to the future making this whole season a waste of time.
I'd laugh.
Why didn't Barry just take the serum back in time 30 days and leave it in the lab? They could have beaten Cicada that night.
Barry's against time travel, except for that time they did exactly this six episodes ago.
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So I've been told.
It really suffered from the fact that this all started because Iris couldn't be bothered to tell people that the dagger was gonna come back. Actually yea, that's the main issue with this episode. The blatant lack of communication.
The argument is that since she rewinds time, that's somehow different than jumping in the speed force and time travelling. Hence no time wraiths since she didn't venture into their no no domain.
"Did you hear about Flash's daughter rewinding time 52 times and altering time to her will?"
"I was on vacation. Who cares?"
They're on vacation till April!
"Did you hear about Flash's daughter rewinding time 52 times and altering time to her will?"
"I was on vacation. Who cares?"
She isn't supposed to be there in general. Her very existence there, and everything she changes, (willingly or not) should be aberrations. But I guess we're in the eh, whatever place.
I think I stopped paying attention to stuff like that a long while ago. This universe has never been particularly smart and I think the writers know they can take some pretty big logic leaps. I just can't hold Flash to any high logic standard, It just a popcorn show for me.
I'm a lot more offended when we get these cookie cutter episodes that don't have any real conceit. I enjoyed this episode because it played with the format and the obvious budget constraints this show has.
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He had the dagger in his chest & they let him fly away again? Just catching up, but that part was so aggravating. Like, this guy should have been in handcuffs 8 episodes ago. So admiring your genius & knock this dude out.
The fact that Iris or anyone else didn't say "He threw the dagger".
The fact that Nora never thought it was a good idea to just fucking say what was happening.
The fact that they let Cicada get away again by just STANDING AROUND WHILE HE'S BRIEFLY INCAPACITATED. I can't even remember how many times that's happened now.
God even Cisco's subplot was so painfully generic. "I should just be myself!" Yeah no fucking shit, she was practically salivating over you at the bar when you were doing just that.
The only good moments were:
-Sherloque yet again being 50 times smarter than everyone else and figuring out what was happening
-Barry replicating the talk Jay gave to him about time travel
-Everyone slowing Nora down was cool
I haven't been this frustrated at one of these shows since Team Arrow were acting like buffoons last season.
Thawne: "I AM THE ONLY SPEEDSTER WHO KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING!"
Ain't that the truth.
The fact that Nora never thought it was a good idea to just fucking say what was happening.
The fact that they let Cicada get away again by just STANDING AROUND WHILE HE'S BRIEFLY INCAPACITATED. I can't even remember how many times that's happened now.
God even Cisco's subplot was so painfully generic. "I should just be myself!" Yeah no fucking shit, she was practically salivating over you at the bar when you were doing just that.
The only good moments were:
-Sherloque yet again being 50 times smarter than everyone else and figuring out what was happening
-Barry replicating the talk Jay gave to him about time travel
-Everyone slowing Nora down was cool
I haven't been this frustrated at one of these shows since Team Arrow were acting like buffoons last season.
Thawne: "I AM THE ONLY SPEEDSTER WHO KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING!"
Ain't that the truth.
The main problem Team Flash has had this year is tracking down Cicada.
This episode gave Team Flash (minus Barry) his exact location and the exact time he would be there, and an apparently infinite number of times to get it right, and that was their best outcome.
This episode gave Team Flash (minus Barry) his exact location and the exact time he would be there, and an apparently infinite number of times to get it right, and that was their best outcome.
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