The Flash S5 |OT| The Bitchin' House of Ls

PlanetSmasher

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The worst part about Savitar being Future Barry is that it wasted the opportunity for an ACTUAL evil Barry in a future storyline. That would've been a real fun arc to fuck around with if it was given actual room to develop.
 

Slayven

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Oct 25, 2017
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The worst part about Savitar being Future Barry is that it wasted the opportunity for an ACTUAL evil Barry in a future storyline. That would've been a real fun arc to fuck around with if it was given actual room to develop.
Imagine them not wasting zoom. Evil Barry from the future could have been Zoom forcing Barry to become better so not make the mistakes he did.
 

raYne_07

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Oct 27, 2017
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The worst part about Savitar being Future Barry is that it wasted the opportunity for an ACTUAL evil Barry in a future storyline. That would've been a real fun arc to fuck around with if it was given actual room to develop.
Have an evil Future Barry and make Thawne be the hero because evil Barry is too crazy and is fucking up the timeline? I'll allow it.
 

PlanetSmasher

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To be fair, when was the last time Barry messed with the timeline? It was all Nora this season.
I think the idea would be that evil Future Barry is making TONS of changes to the timeline on a catastrophic scale, so Thawne has to stop him because it risks destroying the entire multiverse.

Like, imagine if they did the Future Barry story arc where Barry travels back from the future to prevent Iris' death, only instead of stopping there he goes "Wait, I can fix ANYTHING I WANT now" and starts shredding the timeline by mucking about with events across time. If Flashpoint was a surgical scalpel to the timeline changing one event that created huge ripple effects, this would be more like someone drunkenly taking a meat cleaver to it.
 

Keym

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Oct 26, 2017
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I think the idea would be that evil Future Barry is making TONS of changes to the timeline on a catastrophic scale, so Thawne has to stop him because it risks destroying the entire multiverse.

Like, imagine if they did the Future Barry story arc where Barry travels back from the future to prevent Iris' death, only instead of stopping there he goes "Wait, I can fix ANYTHING I WANT now" and starts shredding the timeline by mucking about with events across time. If Flashpoint was a surgical scalpel to the timeline changing one event that created huge ripple effects, this would be more like someone drunkenly taking a meat cleaver to it.
That what speed wraiths are there for. They would be chasing evil Barry non stop, he's no Thawne.
 

Skeeter49

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Oct 25, 2017
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My favorite part of this season is Barry having a talk with Nora that they can never use their speed to change the timeline, despite the fact that Barry having this conversation with his daughter from the future is already changing the timeline, and the longer she stays more changes will be made, on top of the changes already made.
 

Slayven

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What if Nora had came back to prevent a future where Flash rules Central City with an iron fist. It could tie into the Zara's future where metahumans are hunted. Imagine this scene but of a Flash that is always watching, like he keeps the whole city as his perfect aquarium
 

PlanetSmasher

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What if Nora had came back to prevent a future where Flash rules Central City with an iron fist. It could tie into the Zara's future where metahumans are hunted. Imagine this scene but of a Flash that is always watching, like he keeps the whole city as his perfect aquarium
I feel like this is the kind of story that would work better for a crossover rather than a season-long arc.
 

Keym

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Oct 26, 2017
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My favorite part of this season is Barry having a talk with Nora that they can never use their speed to change the timeline, despite the fact that Barry having this conversation with his daughter from the future is already changing the timeline, and the longer she stays more changes will be made, on top of the changes already made.
They can't blame you for changing the timeline if someone else does it for you. RollSafe.jpg
 

raYne_07

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Oct 27, 2017
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That what speed wraiths are there for. They would be chasing evil Barry non stop, he's no Thawne.
If they want to go all out just establish that his state of mind grants (lol puns) him access to more power/speed than normal Barry ever had. So the Wraiths aren't even a factor, to him. So the speedforce itself reaches out to Thawne and asks for his help.

Besides they did fuck all to stop Nora fucking around with the timeline. Unless the writers forgot they existed...
 

raYne_07

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My favorite part of this season is Barry having a talk with Nora that they can never use their speed to change the timeline, despite the fact that Barry having this conversation with his daughter from the future is already changing the timeline, and the longer she stays more changes will be made, on top of the changes already made.
Pretty much. The amount of times I said "she isn't supposed to be there" this season was ridiculous.

"Dont screw with the timeline. Unless its beneficial to me or you're family "
 

PlanetSmasher

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Pretty much. The amount of times I said "she isn't supposed to be there" this season was ridiculous.

"Dont screw with the timeline. Unless its beneficial to me or you're family "
At the very least, the payoff was that she fucked around with it so much that she erased HERSELF from the timeline by altering the circumstances surrounding her own birth.

If the season had just ended with her going home it would've been so fucking weird.
 

The Hobo

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Oct 27, 2017
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What's weird is that Barry wanted Nora to return to the future at the beginning of the season because he was afraid she would erase herself and then all of a sudden he has no problem with her staying.
 

BDS

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Oct 25, 2017
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I really want Nora to come back, if only briefly, during Crisis. That was her whole character arc, that she wanted to help save her dad from disappearing, and she even reiterates it in the final scene of the season. I feel like it would be a huge weird missed opportunity if she doesn't show up and get some closure to her character.

Also is it too early to start thinking of Crisis OT names? Maybe a play on something from Endgame, since this is basically the Arrowverse's Endgame?
 

Dr Doom

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just got back from vacation and 2 episodes behind.
Only good part of this season is we got the varying acting prowess of Chris Klein.
Even got 2 Cicada at the end.

Good they are trimming the cast. Ralph should play a major role now.
 

GulAtiCa

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Oct 25, 2017
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I remember way back during S2 thinking it be cool if we somehow got a Evil Barry from Future arc. Then S3 happened. :/