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I laughed at the Jitters inclusion, but realized it'll definitely be there. They'll just Gotham it up with black curtains.
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The Flash S5 |OT| The Bitchin' House of Ls
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I laughed at the Jitters inclusion, but realized it'll definitely be there. They'll just Gotham it up with black curtains.
Basically just the finale. Gracicada predictably went nowhere as a character.
She killed her uncle and went on vacation until Team Flash worked out their family squabble. Guess she didnt care that much about killing all metas.
As was said, just watch the finale. You aren't missing anything.
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Lol. She did fuck all with other metas until she appeared. Going to kill all the metas but stays in her cabin taking care of her kid self who is sustained by machines already. What a great villain. Truly one of The Flash's greatest villain to date.
Definitely the most emotional scene since Barry said goodbye to his mom in the season 1 finale. My eyes actually teared up a bit.
Every season should just end with Barry having an emotional goodbye to someone named Nora.
I'm dying of laughter picturing Barry disappearing during the Crisis and recording his emotional goodbye to Nora while Nora Dahrk is standing nearby with an embarrassed expression while all the Legends stare at her like "What the fuck is he talking about?"
Also, I haven't seen any mention of this but I really liked the confrontation between Thawne and the team, especially Cisco. I like that they recognized this is the first time (chronologically) that Thawne and Cisco have really interacted since the end of season 1. The show always focuses on how hurt and angry Barry was by Thawne's betrayal but rarely mentions that Cisco was hurt and deceived too.
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My head-cannon is that it's a consequence of Flashpoint and Barry visiting S1 Thawne several times.
Only way to make that even perfect is for someone to say "Barry you idiot"
Wait really? I always assumed they had talked before lol
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I can't remember a time where post-S1 Thawne and Cisco interact. Thawne mentions he's nostalgic for working with Cisco when he's trapped with Ray in Legends though. Which again, makes no sense memory or timeline wise.
Just watched the finale. Seeing the team working together to kick the shit out of Thawne was pretty satisfying. Finally they didn't suck.
Nora's finale was oddly pretty emotional. I assume Cisco must be back for at least a few episodes next season because he didn't get a goodbye scene with anyone except Caitlin. I'm really excited for Sue to get introduced.
Nora's finale was oddly pretty emotional. I assume Cisco must be back for at least a few episodes next season because he didn't get a goodbye scene with anyone except Caitlin. I'm really excited for Sue to get introduced.
I think while Klein isn't a good actor for the role and he spent too long as a villain it feels he's a more complex character compared to Grace who's adult self is pretty much one note and can basically do anything the writers want her to fo
Also I know we complained about Cicada 1 taking too long but Grace really needed a bit more focus on her.
It's still Klein Cicada fault since because he took so long that grace gets no time
Pretty much. OG has major, major issues, but he's far more fleshed out. Meanwhile Shecada is just angry and nothing else. There's nothing to work with. I thought there'd at least be a scene where they try to redeem/soften her through using her younger self, but it never came.
That was the issue I complained about as soon as she showed up. They took 3/4ths of the season with Gen 1 Cicada, then introduces a "better" Cicada with more abilities, future tech/knowledge for the team to defeat in less episodes.. Then she isn't even in a bunch of those and they miraculously stop her because the writers let Team Flash not be idiots.
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He hit on a lot of points we've complained about, but I disagree with his initial criticism of not expecting good writing from a CW show. That's bs. Funnily enough, he throws that right out the window and spends a good chunk of time complaining about the writing. lol
They did, but I highly doubt it'll happen. Probably just easter egg name drop stuff since they got access to the Batman property. If it happens at all, I'm sure it'll be a different person just like they did with Cicada's change. ie it won't be Bruce. It'll be weird after their "no more speedsters" statement if they have another evil speedster the next season, but realistically, no one else in his rogues gallery can last over a 23 episode run. Unless they're going to continue to write the team like idiots again and let the baddie constantly escape while Team Flash gets distracted by finding a penny on the floor that is...
I said it before and I'll keep saying it. They need to bring in a team of bad guys to go up against. Individually, the rest of his rogues gallery is terrible. Either that or 2 baddies a season. Wrap up each in 10 episodes and leave the last 3 eps to set up the next season.
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uh I don't think anyone expects it to be Bruce, everyone's assuming it would be Oliver now that he's about to be a free agent. It would make sense to give him the back half of next season because it would be a literal representation of Barry's guilt over Oliver's death.
As far as no more speedsters go, that statement is obviously isn't going to stick. It came from an ousted producer years ago, and as far as I can tell the two statements were "probably done with speedsters" and "definitely not in S4", and the latter is true and Godspeed just happened. They'll go back to that well if they need to, and two seasons off is a fair amount of time.
There's not many Flash villains left who could carry a season but if they go wider DC they could find someone. I wanted them to give Neron a shot, but Legends got him instead.
I really, really want this to be it, but like raYne said, I think it was just a neat easter egg.
On the other hand, the next big bad always gets hinted at before the season wraps... was that the case with Zoom/Savitar though? I can only remember the show hinting at Devoe/Cicada.
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The Jay Garrick hat was technically a Zoom tease
Savitar was a mess that it feels like at episode 9 somebody had the 'genius' idea to make him a Barry clone
Wish they would go outside the box villain wise. Use Owlman from the Crime Syndicate as Flash's big villain. Maybe have him behind the curtains for a chunk of the season. Have him in the shadows secretly just analyzing Barry and making sure Barry learns that there are actually consequences when you stack L's like he does.
They'd have to be willing to kill off a couple of big characters to let the audience know this guy is not playing
They'd have to be willing to kill off a couple of big characters to let the audience know this guy is not playing
Correct. CW playing the long game. They showed the newspaper article in like the first ep of season 1. lol
Note: He had the chinstrap in the article.. from the future. *glares at production team*
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No more wasting interesting speedsters. Just use John Fox and call it a day
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The worst part about Savitar being Future Barry is that it wasted the opportunity for an ACTUAL evil Barry in a future storyline. That would've been a real fun arc to fuck around with if it was given actual room to develop.
Imagine them not wasting zoom. Evil Barry from the future could have been Zoom forcing Barry to become better so not make the mistakes he did.
They still have Hunter Zolomon from earth-1 walking around...
Have an evil Future Barry and make Thawne be the hero because evil Barry is too crazy and is fucking up the timeline? I'll allow it.
Honestly it is hard to take multiverse serious when 80% of the time now it is used for Wells jokes
This is true. It's a good thing the multiverse isn't about the explode/implode/undergo a crisis then! We can mourn all of the Wellses
To be fair, when was the last time Barry messed with the timeline? It was all Nora this season.
I think the idea would be that evil Future Barry is making TONS of changes to the timeline on a catastrophic scale, so Thawne has to stop him because it risks destroying the entire multiverse.
Like, imagine if they did the Future Barry story arc where Barry travels back from the future to prevent Iris' death, only instead of stopping there he goes "Wait, I can fix ANYTHING I WANT now" and starts shredding the timeline by mucking about with events across time. If Flashpoint was a surgical scalpel to the timeline changing one event that created huge ripple effects, this would be more like someone drunkenly taking a meat cleaver to it.
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