Of course it's up for debate. The fact that you even think it's some kind of axiomatic rule of law is kind of horrifying. Like, it only takes a few seconds of your time to look up what the word "important" means. It's entirely subjective.
I said it before and I'll say it again, if this was a discussion about the game's popularity or sales, I would agree that these are hard facts. There's no denying that PUBG is one of the biggest selling games of this year (and I only say 'one of' because we don't get all the hard sales numbers for the big tentpole AAA games like COD and BattleFront II - it's entirely possible that PUBG was the top selling game this year period). But that doesn't necessarily equate to "importance". GTAV outsold A Link To The Past, but I'd argue that A Link To The Past is more important by a mile.
Because it doesn't matter what year you said. Literally any year would be equally as ludicrous. You can pick a random year, and that year had fantastic games released in it. Just because you or I didn't personally like some of those games, or even all of those games, doesn't change that fact. The entire premise of "Was X year a bad year" is incredibly dumb because every year for the past 20 odd years has had amazing games being released every year.
Even better is not being upset at any of them winning. Its not like any of them are bad games, and none of them are without their share of issues.
Since everyone will inevitably post their opinions as facts, I shall do the same and post what's wrong with these nominees.
*Please note despite the sorta sarcastic paragraph above, these are my 100% true opinions.
-Splatoon 2 not being a nominee for GOTY. It has become my favorite game of all time at 310+ hours played. The amount of fun I've had is unmatched.
-Splatoon 2 not nominated for best ongoing game. I don't know much about the other games, but as far as I'm aware PUGB has only had bugfixes, a few weapons, and cosmetics. So it should be replaced. Splatoon 2 has had two new maps, two retro maps from Splatoon 1, new Co-Op map, a new weapon type, a new special, and a new weapon set each week. This is truly a travesty.
-The handheld category not having Splatoon 2, Mario Odyssey, and BOTW on it. All 700+ hours on my Switch have been on portable, therefore Switch is a dedicated portable. What's even the point of this category when it's already dead next year? Shameful.
Danganronpa V3 not being in best story. The final chapter is the single greatest story event in all of gaming. I don't even know why any others get nominated here. They all lose.
And Finally: Yomawari: Midnight Shadows as well as A Rose in the Twilight not being in GOTY, best art, best sound, and best experience. A failure to end all failures.
Seriously though. I don't connect with most of these but mostly nice choices I guess.
Ya that category is a joke this year, they left out P5 even which is primarily a narrative driven game. I kind of figured Danganronpa V3 was too small to get their attention, but it deserves a nod dammit.Danganronpa V3 not being in best story. The final chapter is the single greatest story event in all of gaming. I don't even know why any others get nominated here. They all lose.
Even though I consider Super Mario World to be far more of a design achievement than PUBG for its time... I would say that Super Mario World may be less important than PUBG, if I'm speaking strictly on both its contemporary and lasting impact and influence in the industry. Which is usually the judgement criteria for what constitutes an 'important' game in gaming discussions before qualifiers are introduced. Consider, for example, how many developers have cited SMW specifically as inspiration for their games, against the clear upcoming wave of BR modes and games which will almost unanimously find themselves derived from PUBG as a base. but I'd really have to think about it, given that's the flagship Mario game for Nintendo's 16 bit console, which means it's important in other contexts. From that same perspective, though, I'd say that PUBG is definitely more important than Nier, and Nier doesn't have the same importance within the context of the PS4's library to tip the scales.
I'd consider Super Mario Bros 1 and 3 to be more important than PUBG, for what it's worth. They laid the framework for and popularized what was, for a long time, console gaming's dominant genre, while helping to make Nintendo into a household name.
Making it to the NBA means you're one of the better if not best basketball players in the world. It doesn't however mean you're gonna play on the Olympic team or be voted an all star. Horizon is your run of the mill NBA player. When you stand among giants you begin to feel small. It deserves the nomination but not the win.
Even better is not being upset at any of them winning. Its not like any of them are bad games, and none of them are without their share of issues.
Its actually kindof sucks that gaming is so much about picking a one-true-winner, when every game on those lists, as well as others that didn't make it, are worthy of recognition and praise.
Horizon doesn't belong on that list. It wouldn't belong if the list was 10 games long.
It means the game he liked the best.
He's used words like "illogical," "strawman," and "fallacy" in every post, hoping it would eventually be true. The same likely applies to "important."
He's absolutely ridiculous and it reached meltdown status a while ago.
I almost want PUBG to win now and I don't even think it should be allowed to be nominated!
Just because you don't like Inquisition doesn't mean it wasn't worthy of GOTY. It's like getting upset that The Witcher 3 won GOTY when it was "so totally overrated, guys!"But Inquisition won. That makes it one of the worst GOTY winners ever!
Matter of opinion. I think what this boils down to is that 2017 had more games that YOU liked. You didn't like Dragon Age: Inquisition. You'd probably be flabbergasted if DA: I won GOTY over something like Breath of the Wild. Is Breath of the Wild a good game or a bad one? Does it deserve GOTY more than Shadow of Mordor, another acclaimed title with a rocky post-honeymoon period, did? Matter of opinion.You can look back at 2014 and this past year and clearly see that this year was FAR better for games.
Sure, and maybe you're right that because I swim around in the gaming pool I just notice the gaming one-upsmanship more than with other mediums.What, literally every medium has their own award show thingy. Gaming isn't alone in this. As long as you like what you like it's all good, right?
The Game Awards has categories for games to be valued specifically as art.
The Game Awards has categories for games to be valued specifically as art.
That's not really the stated purpose of the GOTY category.
They're literally on the goddamn website smartass.Oh shit Geoff, thanks for clearing this up for me. Since you wrote the categories for the awards yourself 1)where can I find "the stated purpose" of said categories and 2) why would you only have one category that recognizes an artistic medium as art?
That's not the only thing the GOTY category recognizes games for.Here's a hint: GOTY recognizes art for artistic merit. It doesn't say "recognizing the product with the most sales or largest fanbase".
Actually, does anyone know the nomination criteria? This can't just be a popularity contest. There needs to be some sense of impartiality.
Nominees for The Game Awards are selected by an international jury of 51 global media and influencer outlets, selected for their history of critically and editorially evaluating video games. The list of outlets is available here.
Each outlet completes a confidential, unranked ballot based on the collective and diverse opinion of its entire editorial staff, listing their 5 picks in each category. These ballots are tabulated, and the five games that appeared on the most ballots receive a nomination. In the event of a tie, six (or more) nominees will be announced in a category.
A separate esports jury, comprised of leading media outlets focused on esports coverage, determines the nominees in the three esports categories.
Outlets are given the opportunity to vote in every category, but also encouraged to leave the ballot blank in certain categories if they are unfamiliar with all the eligible titles.
Given the sheer number of game released each year, as well as the extended time required to fully evaluate said products, a "voting outlet" approach allows for the widest possible critical assessment. A ballot submitted to The Game Awards represents the collective opinion of an entire outlet, not one individual's point of view.
Are early access games eligible for The Game Awards?
Yes, any games available for public consumption by the deadline are eligible for potential nomination. It's up to the jury to decide if a title warrants nomination for creative and/or technical excellence in any given year.
Titanfall 2 should win "worst release date window of the year".Nioh deserved more credit.
Titanfall 2 should win 2017 GOT that was released in 2016.
That's not the only thing the GOTY category recognizes games for.
The category literally names two aspects that it recognizes.You're splitting hairs in a weird way that will go down a rabbit hole I refuse to go down. It's obnoxious.
Danganronpa V3 not being in best story. The final chapter is the single greatest story event in all of gaming. I don't even know why any others get nominated here. They all lose.
And Finally: Yomawari: Midnight Shadows as well as A Rose in the Twilight not being in GOTY, best art, best sound, and best experience. A failure to end all failures.
Seriously though. I don't connect with most of these but mostly nice choices I guess.
Titanfall 2 should win "worst release date window of the year".