The Guardian: Beto O’Rourke frequently voted for Republican legislation, analysis reveals

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Review of his six-year record in Congress shows Democrat frequently opposed own party, and supported bills that boosted the fossil fuel industry and Trump’s immigration policy
a new analysis of congressional votes from the non-profit news organisation Capital & Main shows that even as O’Rourke represented one of the most solidly Democratic congressional districts in the United States, he has frequently voted against the majority of House Democrats in support of Republican bills and Trump administration priorities.

Capital & Main reviewed the 167 votes O’Rourke has cast in the House in opposition to the majority of his own party during his six-year tenure in Congress. Many of those votes were not progressive dissents alongside other left-leaning lawmakers, but instead votes to help pass Republican-sponsored legislation.
O’Rourke has voted for GOP bills that his fellow Democratic lawmakers said reinforced Republicans’ anti-tax ideology, chipped away at the Affordable Care Act (ACA), weakened Wall Street regulations, boosted the fossil fuel industry and bolstered Donald Trump’s immigration policy.
Rest of article: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...al-votes-analysis-capital-and-main?CMP=twt_gu

This probably isn't surprising to anyone who has gone beyond the billionaire donor "hype" surrounding Beto and actually read up on him themselves, but it's great to see this getting coverage. I think it's important for people to vet these 2020 potentials rather than going by what Dem billionaire donors tell them.
 

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So what you're saying is that people are trying to stunt the momentum Beto has.

How coincidental this attempt at dirt comes up after the consideration of a presidential run is floated.
 

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Still better than Bernie or Warren. No fossils sbould run for President, the job is too stressful
 

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So what you're saying is that people are trying to stunt the momentum Beto has.

How coincidental this attempt at dirt comes up after the consideration of a presidential run is floated.
This is still good stuff to know as his voting record is important, especially if he's gonna run for President under the guise of being progressive.
 

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This probably isn't surprising to anyone who has gone beyond the billionaire donor "hype" surrounding Beto and actually read up on him themselves
The dude raised tens of millions in small donations for a Senate race. Regardless of his voting record, the guy has widespread appeal - suggesting people only supported him because "Dem Billionaires (who, Steyer?) told them to is pretty lame

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Rep. O'Rourke has voted against a majority of House Democrats 60 times (8.2%) in the 115th Congress (2017-18). He ranks 74th among all representatives in voting against his party. The average House Democrat votes against his or her party 7.1% of the time.
Nevermind, misread
 

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Wait and see what platform, if any, he comes up with. I remember he stated he would work with major energy companies to move Texas towards a green economy. Said it in another thread, I don't really care how we deal with global warming as long as we hurry up and do it.
 

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Anyone else see the pattern?

First they came after Avenatti now it’s Beto.

Next it will be Harris and so and so on.
 

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Yeah the last Beto Thread didn’t go down well with the centrist crowd. I can’t imagine the mental gymnastics that will be on display here to discredit this.
 

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Important vetting is important - Beto is not close to being the most progressive candidate. He will have to explain his voting record and move left on several issues to win the candidacy.

But being from Texas and voting with the Republicans 30% of the time isn't exactly cause for alarm.

O’Rourke nonetheless officially co-sponsoredthe bill and voted for it. Echoing the GOP’s line of attack on the CFPB, the Democrat faulted the agency for a “lack of openness”, which he asserted had created “uncertainty, criticism of the CFPB’s conclusions, and has made loans more expensive to borrowers”. While O’Rourke later voted against using the Congressional Review Act to kill the CFPB’s regulation, the original bill he voted for set the stage for the GOP to repeal it under Trump.
Several of the bills mentioned further in had broad bipartisan support.

Wait until you see the articles about her office's prosecutions. Trust me, the press will leave no stone unturned on Democratic candidates.
 

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I don't think this really matters. I'll vote for whoever the democratic nominee is. During the primary season, I will vote for the most electable. Right now it looks like that is either Beto or Biden, but things can change very quickly and we are really far off still.
 

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Anyone else see the pattern?

First they came after Avenatti now it’s Beto.

Next it will be Harris and so and so on.
First they came for Avenatti, and I did not say anything because I wasn’t an opportunistic jackal who beat women

Then they came for Beto and I did not say anything because I wasn’t a milquetoast centrist white dude beholden to my fossil fuel base...
 

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O’Rourke represented one of the most solidly Democratic congressional districts in the United States, he has frequently voted against the majority of House Democrats in support of Republican bills and Trump administration priorities.

Gee I wonder why people would have issues with a DINO running as a Dem president.
I'm not involved, but I just disagree with taking a broad look with the whole history of democrat purity test stuff. If he does not stand as supportive of things his constituents want, and that will benefit Americans, then yeah screw him and don't vote for him if he runs.
 
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The dude raised tens of millions in small donations for a Senate race. Regardless of his voting record, the guy has widespread appeal - suggesting people only supported him because "Dem Billionaires (who, Steyer?) told them to is pretty lame
That just means he had appeal in Texas.
 

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I’m still interested in seeing what kind of race he runs. If we go based on past accomplishments and not campaign rhetoric, Mitt Romney is looking pretty good right about now, being the governor that passed the proto-ACA in his state. I also think, you know, being Texan changes his calculus on certain votes, being from a liberal district doesn’t really change that. Still, important to see this stuff, and it’s no surprise, it’s all public record and he’s a major force that hasn’t declared.
 

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A candidate's public voting record and statements on policy isn't "dirt".

Rep. O'Rourke voted against a majority of House Democrats 60 times (6.0%) in the 113th Congress (2013-14).
Meaning that he voted with Democrats >90% in that two year period. That includes bills that were sponsored by the Republican majority, of course.
 

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This is still good stuff to know as his voting record is important, especially if he's gonna run for President under the guise of being progressive.
It's not much of a guise if he can't even say if he is a progressive or not.

But being from Texas and voting with the Republicans 30% of the time isn't exactly cause for alarm.
He's in a heavily democratic district, so the "it's Texas" explanation doesn't work.
 

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I swear, anti-Beto stans live in this alternate reality where Hillary didn't run away with the 2016 primary despite being a "centrist neoliberal schill" or whatever meaningless buzzwords they attempted to ascribe to her. Beto is a progressive, and will run and win as one, no matter what Glenn Greenwald's old rag tries to say. Maybe they should get back figuring out how they will keep their doors open after a no-deal Brexit.
 
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If anyone is waiting for a magical unicorn candidate without any drawbacks, you're out of luck.

This is not to say this story of Beto's record is insignificant. I'm just trying to hammer home the notion that Democrats need to stop trying to "fall in love" with their candidates.

Be vigilant, be pragmatic, be thorough.
 

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These people think that Bernie weakened Hillary in the primary. Somehow they don’t realize Trump had a primary 100x harder and came out ok.
It's appearing more and more that they just want their preferred person to win without anyone taking a good look at them. You have these people saying to not let perfect being the enemy of good or "don't fall in love, fall in line" when this is the beginning of the primary season. This is when we're supposed to be more critical.