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The Gundam |OT| Destiny is something we all have to deal with
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So what is the reprehensible behavior of Dozle that I have forgotten?
I start from the premise that people in the military won't ever be saints but he seems honest with his subordinates and he seems to care for them.
Was he behind the gassing of one of the colonies? I cannot recall if that was him or Ghiren.
I do recall Ramba Ral being ousted for being against those attacks.
I start from the premise that people in the military won't ever be saints but he seems honest with his subordinates and he seems to care for them.
Was he behind the gassing of one of the colonies? I cannot recall if that was him or Ghiren.
I do recall Ramba Ral being ousted for being against those attacks.
Yeah, Dozle definitely shouldn't have gone along with Ghiren's plan and Ramba Ral was in the right. So, in the end, he's responsible for genocide and a war criminal even if those were technically his enemies. Therefore, he does not deserve being called decent.
The contrast is that the Zabi family is a viper's nest. The other siblings have no qualms about killing even their family members except Garma who is an incompetent fool.
In fact, one of the things I dislike about Garma is that, even though he is an adult, he seems to be oblivious of what kind of terrible family he is part of. Something that, at least, Dozle seems to understand.
In the end, even if all those Zabi are an unsavory bunch, if I had to reluctantly choose one of them to have my back, it would still be Dozle.
The contrast is that the Zabi family is a viper's nest. The other siblings have no qualms about killing even their family members except Garma who is an incompetent fool.
In fact, one of the things I dislike about Garma is that, even though he is an adult, he seems to be oblivious of what kind of terrible family he is part of. Something that, at least, Dozle seems to understand.
In the end, even if all those Zabi are an unsavory bunch, if I had to reluctantly choose one of them to have my back, it would still be Dozle.
I mean Kycilia shot Ghiren in the back if I remember right so there really aren't too many safe options with that scenario.
It's also implied she did Sasro as well. While Ghiren didn't hesitate to torch Degwin.
Dozle at least regrets his acts (which doesn't exonerate him) in the same episode he carries out operation British when visiting Mineva (only to do a 180º minutes later, SMH).
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Agreed. Definitely war criminal mentality. For some reason I had put the blame of the whole operation British only on Ghiren. Probably original MSG being less clear on that.
The Victory novels are really good. There is a ton of backstory on Zanscare, how they rose to power, how it was a coalition that gave way to fanaticism and religious lunacy and how it's people didn't buy into it wholly but it brought about a lot of economic change that they accepted it and lots of preying on the idea of new types and evolutionary superiority. Tons of stuff nowhere to be found in the show lol.
Lots of weird Tominoisms in it. Shakti and Uso are much older and there is a bunch of sketch ass situations and tons of sexual overtones with the Shrikes and Marbets pregnancy is explored a lot more thoroughly with her trying to end it in battle and stuff that is handled with the subtlety of a sledge hammer.
It does lean heavily into Gaia Gear more than the anime though heavily insinuating that Uso might be a descendent of Char and Rezen Schneider and Zanscare talks of trying to clone Char, Amuro and Judau
Lots of weird Tominoisms in it. Shakti and Uso are much older and there is a bunch of sketch ass situations and tons of sexual overtones with the Shrikes and Marbets pregnancy is explored a lot more thoroughly with her trying to end it in battle and stuff that is handled with the subtlety of a sledge hammer.
It does lean heavily into Gaia Gear more than the anime though heavily insinuating that Uso might be a descendent of Char and Rezen Schneider and Zanscare talks of trying to clone Char, Amuro and Judau
I agree on the Dozel stuff but still mostly like him as a member of the insane Zabi family. Like you guys said, he still carried out the war crime of gassing an entire population of both civilian and military targets. Under orders or not I thought it was great they showed how he was at least opposed to it causing the argument with Ral. I think Dozel would have known he and his family would have been targeted (again) if he did not fall in with the plan though considering how the rest of the family acts. His wife and baby would have been nixed pretty quick I'm sure.
Dozel kinda shows one of the things I like about Gundam as a whole, he wasn't some curly mustached bad guy killing to kill. He was a reluctant cog in the war. A high up one but still just another person getting carried along with how things went. Kacilia and Ghirin were just monsters in comparison to him. Then again I find characters like him more interesting than others.
Dozel kinda shows one of the things I like about Gundam as a whole, he wasn't some curly mustached bad guy killing to kill. He was a reluctant cog in the war. A high up one but still just another person getting carried along with how things went. Kacilia and Ghirin were just monsters in comparison to him. Then again I find characters like him more interesting than others.
DP cause I did not see it lol.
Yeah some parts are randomly finnicky or brittle. It really is random though. The chest on my MG Gundam Origin snapped right in half when I was making it, but thats like the only weak part I've come across in the kits I've built.
Yeah some parts are randomly finnicky or brittle. It really is random though. The chest on my MG Gundam Origin snapped right in half when I was making it, but thats like the only weak part I've come across in the kits I've built.
Yeah, the Zabis were all terrible people.
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Interesting. Is this where that persistent theory originated where fans were insisting about Usso's lineage being connected to Char?
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Interesting. Is this where that persistent theory originated where fans were insisting about Usso's lineage being connected to Char?
Well, Uso's mother is called Muller Miguel and I think Holly said Rezin Schneider but I believe she meant Nanai Miguel who was having an affair with Char during CCA.
There's always been this idea about the Miguel surname being a remnant of a discarded plot in the anime about Uso being their descendant.
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Rezin banging Char seems a bit out of character but hey, it's Tomino, applying logic to his plots isn't always the best of ideas.
Oh and today I learnt Rezin's actual surname is Schnyder instead of Schneider. This is some Berenstain shit right here.
Oh and today I learnt Rezin's actual surname is Schnyder instead of Schneider. This is some Berenstain shit right here.
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Rezin dies in CCA (no idea about the novelizations) and I have my doubts about her being a mother before the Axis events (never underestimate Tomino, though). In contrast, Nanai survives and her being pregnant like Beltorchika in the novels is perfectly plausible.
So if you go looking for continuity in the novels you are going to be really really disappointed. Amuro fucking dies in the OYW trilogy, the Zeta novels and in BC. The ZZ novels pick up from the anime canon, and all kinds of weirdness.
But yes while Nanai is the fan theory. The V novels mention Schnyder specifically, though, but from a propaganda POV. As in this guy is suspected to be Chars decendent and Char was with Rezen so she must be who he is related to.
But yes while Nanai is the fan theory. The V novels mention Schnyder specifically, though, but from a propaganda POV. As in this guy is suspected to be Chars decendent and Char was with Rezen so she must be who he is related to.
OK, then I guess it can be interpreted as a bunch of zealots inventing excuses several decades after the fact to justify the idea of some purebred that had to have a pair of newtype pilots as his ascendants. I don't think Rezin is ever confirmed as a newtype even though she is an excellent pilot. Her hatred for cyber-newtypes would indicate that she supported the idea or at least wished she were a newtype? That didn't save her from being blown up by mere Chan Agi with the help of the all-powerful "T psychoframes are for Tomino".
Most of what I know comes from the animated features, the only novel I've read is the OYW trilogy and I didn't enjoy it that much.
The repeated lack of continuity for the novels just cements Tomino as a hack for me. Not being able to follow continuity from the first novel is somewhat understandable, nobody knew the series would explode at the time. Afterwards, it is just him being a mess who doesn't really give a fuck.
Most of what I know comes from the animated features, the only novel I've read is the OYW trilogy and I didn't enjoy it that much.
The repeated lack of continuity for the novels just cements Tomino as a hack for me. Not being able to follow continuity from the first novel is somewhat understandable, nobody knew the series would explode at the time. Afterwards, it is just him being a mess who doesn't really give a fuck.
Yeah the novels are all good with a lot of interesting ideas but they are all just these weird hodgepodges that don't relate to anything else outside their own series that take bits and pieces of different elements and combine them. If he had a good editor and a writer to make his ideas a little better and more cohesive it would be great. But as is he is so heavy handed it's almost laughable at times.
If you've read the original trilogy, shit like the pubic hair scene keeps happening, lol
If you've read the original trilogy, shit like the pubic hair scene keeps happening, lol
I'm sure the publishers would gladly give a decent editor to smooth Tomino's craziness but he looks like the person that refuses to.
I do remember the pubic hair thing (although I've forgotten whether it was Fraw Bow's or Sayla's). In any case, it was a bit WTF.
Just got done watching Gundam Narrative.
If I'm understanding correctly, this is the last we see of the pshyco-frame technology in mobile suits? The upcoming Hathaway's Flash movie trilogy won't have any of it?
Felt great when the rearrangement of Sawano's Cage song started playing.
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Anyway, next is to watch the TV compilation of The Origin on Crunchyroll.
If I'm understanding correctly, this is the last we see of the pshyco-frame technology in mobile suits? The upcoming Hathaway's Flash movie trilogy won't have any of it?
Felt great when the rearrangement of Sawano's Cage song started playing.
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Anyway, next is to watch the TV compilation of The Origin on Crunchyroll.
I was thinking about it and Origin is basically exactly what we described. And it is perfect.
Someone give Yas the Grypps war please
Uso being Char's descendant was indeed an early scrapped plot point.
The formation of Zanscare is more interesting than the actual day to day of a twisted theological state. I mean the head of state has actual divine healing powers in a world where the most magical thing is usually some force ghosts and a little bit of precognition/telepathy, so it makes sense how it develops around her. What isn't really stressed enough in Victory is the whole angle of it being a completely anti-patriarcal society that in fact blames men for all of society ills but does go into how this is all bs and its just another ploy by spacenoids to take over the earth and cut peoples heads off.
The formation of Zanscare is more interesting than the actual day to day of a twisted theological state. I mean the head of state has actual divine healing powers in a world where the most magical thing is usually some force ghosts and a little bit of precognition/telepathy, so it makes sense how it develops around her. What isn't really stressed enough in Victory is the whole angle of it being a completely anti-patriarcal society that in fact blames men for all of society ills but does go into how this is all bs and its just another ploy by spacenoids to take over the earth and cut peoples heads off.
Tomino is good because he's a person that thinks out of the box and he is not afraid of exploring unconventional ideas. In my opinion, his weakness is that, sometimes, his penchant for crazy goes far enough that it hurts his creations and it seems there's no one with the authority or will to keep him in check. Another weakness is that he seems to care little about minutiae and consistency, worrying about the big picture but letting the details suffer as a consequence.
They should have Martha Carbine as their prophet. Although her animated debut came after V's airing.
For me Tomino is able to clearly define a lot of characters and whomever does the art for each series he works on does a good job of making those characters also stand out. Like there are a lot of minor characters I really like seeing like Apolly and Miashei. Also a lot of details seem well considered which makes the universe seem plausible.
Tomino has good ideas about the politics/set-ups of his worlds (even if he can't always get them across), as well as the theming of his series.
He also shies away from anime tropes and isn't afraid to have his characters act in a non-badass way to situations, even to the point where they might die unceremoniously.
His biggest downside is that he sometimes his characters' motivations switch on the fly, which makes their arcs feel uncohesive and confusing. Additionally, depending on the series, his plots suffer from compression sometimes.
He also shies away from anime tropes and isn't afraid to have his characters act in a non-badass way to situations, even to the point where they might die unceremoniously.
His biggest downside is that he sometimes his characters' motivations switch on the fly, which makes their arcs feel uncohesive and confusing. Additionally, depending on the series, his plots suffer from compression sometimes.
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I legitimately think G-Reco is brilliant, though I never got to talking about it here because I never got up the gumption to talk about how much I like season 1 of 00 and how much I loathe season 2. I couldn't parse it all in one post.
G-Reco is in fact a better version of what Tomino was aiming for with Turn A, though the music isn't as nice and it lacks the nostalgia bombs and amazing cell art.
G-Reco is in fact a better version of what Tomino was aiming for with Turn A, though the music isn't as nice and it lacks the nostalgia bombs and amazing cell art.
Yes but I literally couldn't bring myself to sit down and write up my thoughts about how bad the second season is like I did for every Gundam series before that.
Then I realized I'd have to do AGE after that, a show so boring I don't remember a lot of it despite watching it only two years ago.
00 ruined itself in the back half to such an incredible degree that it broke my will to continue.
Then I realized I'd have to do AGE after that, a show so boring I don't remember a lot of it despite watching it only two years ago.
00 ruined itself in the back half to such an incredible degree that it broke my will to continue.
Re: 00 post S1 - Understood opinion but yeah.
I'm of the opinion that G-Reco was awful (and I loved Turn A). But that's through the experience of watching it week by week, I plan to rewatch it when I get the blu-ray and see if binging it changes my opinion.
I'm of the opinion that G-Reco was awful (and I loved Turn A). But that's through the experience of watching it week by week, I plan to rewatch it when I get the blu-ray and see if binging it changes my opinion.
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That makes me really excited for G Reco, because it has a reputation for being nonsensical. I love Turn A, it may be my favorite Gundam thing I've seen.
Gunpla usually has 8% VAT in Japan. Question for anyone living there: does the 10% shown here means VAT is rising soon or does the Metal Build fall in a different VAT category?
That price tho.
Best part is that it doesn't even come with the funnels. They'll probably be P-Bandai or something.
And yet, it still sold out pretty fast.
Seeing how there's no numbers (apart from the RX-93 model number) in the funnels image, can someone tell me which of these words means "One of your kidneys, please"?
The RG Perfect Strike is up on Bluefin's website for pretty much the equivalent of the Japanese retail price. God I hope this is a permanent thing.
I thought about this when I was going through boxes and found my MG of it, I wonder why we never got an RG or a MG ver. RM of the Strike Noir. Or an HGCE. They've got new Strike molds but we never got a new version of the Noir.
Maybe I'm the only one who loves the Noir.
Maybe I'm the only one who loves the Noir.