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mrmoose

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Nov 13, 2017
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So I'm re-reading Gundam: The Origin from the beginning and I got to the part near the end of the first volume where they're battling Char near Luna 2. The White Base has Char's Musai dead to rights and is stopped by the Federation ship Madagascar. Bright and co are taken in and reprimanded (even imprisoned) for fighting the Zeon without authorization and the Luna II commander says something like "you don't understand the delicate balance here" or something like that.

It was explained earlier that Luna II is the only extra terrestrial base that the Federation has, while Zeon has a ton of them on the same moon, but what did that mean, that even though they're at war Zeon tolerated a Feddy base there?

Then the next scene Char makes them all look like fools. Though it's kind of amazing how cavalier Char always is, he's basically always just doing the job half way and then retreating, which makes a lot of sense when you have episodes to fill but makes him look a little incompetent.
 

The Sum of Zero

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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Here's a better look at the lineart for Snow White.



Edit: Different magazine with lighter shadows. Those Messer Zwerg looking attachments are on an apparent third set of wings that can fold in front.



 
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Mandos

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Nov 27, 2017
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Say since it’s tangential anyways and has Gundam, figured I’d ask here, what’s a better entry to the super robot wars series, T, V, or X? I’d probably prefer one with g Gundam. Thinking of getting it on my switch(importing t from Asia or waiting and seeing what the situation is with the other two)
Edit... found a deal and wound up ordering T, any tips?
 
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Einchy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I hope they do a RG for that Snow White Gundam.

The wing design is great but I really dislike the color scheme of the non-Snow White version.
 

mute

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Oct 25, 2017
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I will never understand the appeal of EW Wing Zero but at least the extra bits they are bolting on are more mechanical in nature.
 

xEik

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Nov 17, 2017
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The Catalan Republic
I will never understand the appeal of EW Wing Zero but at least the extra bits they are bolting on are more mechanical in nature.
It's a bit of "We heard you like super-robot stuff so we put some super-robot in your real-robot. We know you won't mind since you didn't complain after we started destroying colonies with a single beam rifle shot."
 

mute

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's a bit of "We heard you like super-robot stuff so we put some super-robot in your real-robot. We know you won't mind since you didn't complain after we started destroying colonies with a single beam rifle shot."
It looks good enough in motion/animation just I wish kits/figures could do the wings justice.
 

The Sum of Zero

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Some special video penned by Fukui included in the 40th anniversary blu ray sets coming out in Japan.

This is only the beginning and end, the rest is apparently just a UC recap.
 

RangerBAD

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Oct 25, 2017
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Was that a Moon Gundam preview or just for the manga? The video is just a non-canonical nostalgia trip and I can appreciate that.
 

The Sum of Zero

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No one seems to know. Could just be Fukui shilling his manga.

But man. The Gundam universe really does have a god. And its name is Turn A.

Wasn't this guessed since the Dark History reveal back in Turn A Gundam? That each AU is actually in the same universe, and civilization gets reset by the Moonlight Butterfly each time?
 
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Oct 27, 2017
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I've been playing VS again and with this new one out today, I'm kind of excited but hardly know what to expect. Is it more of an online shooter? Fun?
 

Distantmantra

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Oct 26, 2017
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Was that a Moon Gundam preview or just for the manga? The video is just a non-canonical nostalgia trip and I can appreciate that.
Also seemed to hint at the Unicorn 2 "overseas drama" that was on that accidentally released announcement board from a couple years ago.

I've been playing VS again and with this new one out today, I'm kind of excited but hardly know what to expect. Is it more of an online shooter? Fun?
3rd person action game where you can pilot mobile suits as well as get out and run around on the ground. I've been playing it since the Japanese version came out. It's fun. And it's free.
 

Mandos

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Nov 27, 2017
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I wish Battle operations, vs, or breakers would come to the switch in the west, sigh or just switch period

Well at least I’ll have super robot wars t in a few weeks
 

RangerBAD

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Oct 25, 2017
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No one seems to know. Could just be Fukui shilling his manga.

But man. The Gundam universe really does have a god. And its name is Turn A.

Wasn't this guessed since the Dark History reveal back in Turn A Gundam? That each AU is actually in the same universe, and civilization gets reset by the Moonlight Butterfly each time?
You're really going to take it as canon? Some flavor text on back of a gunpla box or something said that a long time ago.
 

PerrierChaud

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Feb 24, 2019
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I remember playing sub-15fps Gundam Operation on PS3, those were the days
Who's down for a GO2 OP to celebrate its EU/US release?
 

Man God

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's implied heavily in the show as well, though Tomino doesn't like that explanation. Nor does he care about the official timeline released about it vis a vis its relationship with G Reco.
 

Distantmantra

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Oct 26, 2017
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You're really going to take it as canon? Some flavor text on back of a gunpla box or something said that a long time ago.
This book from 1999 also acknowledges it. Sorry if they're bad quality, I just took some quick pics.\





Wiki said:
The book 2001 Correct Century, A Bibliographical Study of "Dark History", printed in black pages in front of the Universal Century Gundam Officials Encyclopedia, is supposedly uncovered by a fictional Lecturer in Black History named Yokk Wakk Onimott during Correct Century 1993. Onimott spends two years to fix the broken pages, five years to interpret the language, and a year to find a publisher. He states that the book was first printed around 3,000 years ago by the Rhea branch of the Earth Federation Government University. Included in the book is a picture drawn by Kunio Okawara showing a mobile suit supposed to be MS-04 as a S.U.I.T. project of the Zeon forces in UC0072~0075. It supposedly was found in 1993 Correct Century in the mountain cycle Library A-a. The white page introduction by another fictional writer, Minaka Junkers, an economy assistant professor of the Rhea branch of the Earth Federation Government University, states the book was published in UC0100 to celebrate the Centennial anniversary of the Universal Century. Thus it is officially claimed that the Universal Century is a time before Correct Century, possibly around 3,000 years before the story of Turn A begins.
My Japanese skills are not nearly good enough to translate the full text, but if someone else would like to I'll take pictures of Onimott and Junkers' full, multi-page write ups. Doesn't look like anyone has ever translated it into English based on a quick Google search. I got this book for $10 at the now-defunct Vancouver, BC Book Off years ago.
 
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Holly

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Oct 25, 2017
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No one seems to know. Could just be Fukui shilling his manga.

But man. The Gundam universe really does have a god. And its name is Turn A.

Wasn't this guessed since the Dark History reveal back in Turn A Gundam? That each AU is actually in the same universe, and civilization gets reset by the Moonlight Butterfly each time?
Sort of. The leading theory at the time was that UC led to a cataclysm that caused X which led into W which led into G and it was that technology which created the moonlight butterfly which caused the end and CC
 

Einchy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Started watching Gundam Wing, I've now seen 5 episodes but I'm not really sure if I'm feeling this one. I'll give it a couple more episodes but I might have to call it quits if it doesn't pick up.
 

SpaceSong

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Oct 25, 2017
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Started watching Gundam Wing, I've now seen 5 episodes but I'm not really sure if I'm feeling this one. I'll give it a couple more episodes but I might have to call it quits if it doesn't pick up.
It's okay, it's pretty bad honestly. The suits are cool. That's about it.

Heero's theme music rips. That's the nicest thing I can say about it.
 

Holly

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, I’m not even a huge fan of Ookawaras designs in W. I much prefer the Katoki redesigns. Glory of the Losers improves things a bit but not totally.
 

The Sum of Zero

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Wew, GBO2 is not easy in the beginning. Took a few hours to get the hang of it, but even then I wouldn't say I'm "gud".

It's even rougher since I'm coming off of Daemon X Machina.
 

Distantmantra

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Oct 26, 2017
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Wew, GBO2 is not easy in the beginning. Took a few hours to get the hang of it, but even then I wouldn't say I'm "gud".

It's even rougher since I'm coming off of Daemon X Machina.
I never got very good at it, but I always had fun and managed to rank up pretty well. Probably won't bother with the English version since you can already play the Japanese version in English and I'd lose all the mobile suits I've acquired.

Also, I always meander over to the enemy base and plant the bomb ASAP. They never seem to notice and it works about 95% of the time.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Started watching Gundam Wing, I've now seen 5 episodes but I'm not really sure if I'm feeling this one. I'll give it a couple more episodes but I might have to call it quits if it doesn't pick up.
Gundam Wing is good if you're a teenager, it gets better-ish towards the middle I think, but it's nowhere near Zeta, or Victory Gundam quality.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah, I’m not even a huge fan of Ookawaras designs in W. I much prefer the Katoki redesigns. Glory of the Losers improves things a bit but not totally.
I still can't get over Deathscythe(1)'s redesign in GotL. Which is why I customized the gunpla which I shared earlier in the thread (going for a true black and painting the back half of the head black to give it a hooded look and keep the artist's white front for "purist" reasons).
 

Cymbal Head

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Oct 25, 2017
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I started watching Gundam X this weekend. As of episode 8, I'm enjoying the series quite a bit. It has an interesting setting, characters with clear motivations who (mostly) behave like actual humans, and a nice mix of self-contained plot beats with an overarching story.

The only thing I'm not feeling are the designs for most of the main protagonist/antagonist gundams. They feel like less distinctive versions of suits from Wing. I absolutely adore a lot of the grunt suits, though.
 

Holly

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Oct 25, 2017
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That’s how I feel about that era. Ookie was kinda phoning it in from G to X. Lots of similar designs in the suits like Dragon/Nataku and Epyon/Virsago.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Spent a few weeks on this on and off. Brushing on the metallic blue-green acrylic was the toughest part. And the elbow joints kept breaking. Longest process was using the gunmetal grey gundam marker on all of the frame parts, rolling a q-tip over it to give it a brushed metal/weathered look and waiting for it to dry.



With the LEDs I installed yesterday:



 

Rahvar

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Oct 25, 2017
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Spent a few weeks on this on and off. Brushing on the metallic blue-green acrylic was the toughest part. And the elbow joints kept breaking. Longest process was using the gunmetal grey gundam marker on all of the frame parts, rolling a q-tip over it to give it a brushed metal/weathered look and waiting for it to dry.



With the LEDs I installed yesterday:



That looks fantastic. Good job!
 

Cymbal Head

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Oct 25, 2017
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How in the world do more people not talk about the
newtype dolphin
in Gundam X??

I can't believe I never had that spoiled for me.
 

Mandos

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Nov 27, 2017
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So since I’ll be encountering it lightly in a few weeks when my copy of Super robot wars t gets here, what’s the deal with Crossbone Gundam?