- Oct 26, 2017
I remember reading the early impressions at the old place and some guy was blowing smoke up our asses by saying the second Hobbit movie was just as good as LOTR movies. I was sooo excited. Imagine my disappointment.
The Smaug segment of the second movie, all of it, was actually what convinced me to skip the third movie in theaters. I basically thought "If they can't even get this right, then all hope for anything is lost.".
Fun fact, the reason they CGed him onto the warg was because when filming him mounting a moving horse (which is what he was doing in the scene, the warg was to be put over the horse) he fell and broke a rib. They then had to CG his entire body movement in that shot since they didnt get any succesful footage.
The Smaug sequence once the Dwarves enter the mountain was terrible.
I specifically mentioned EVERYTHING to do with Smaug. That part actually bothered me more than the Scooby Doo nonsense later.
What didn't you like about that first scene? It's got some good tension, a lot of the dialogue is right from the books, and Smaug looks fantastic.
I really want to watch it again nowThe original trailer for The Hobbit is aesthetically and tonally so on-point. In retrospect, they clearly cherrpicked the best shots and misrepresented the film (or trilogy, I guess) as upholding the same weight and dignity of the LOTR trilogy. Instead, the films not only look like smeared shit, but are also cartoonish and campy in all the worst ways.
We all deserved this movie:
An Irishman style Bilbo narration could tie it all togetherI sure did, lol. Check my edit.
Part of me still believes Jackson could rework the movies if he ever wanted to. Fan cuts can only go so far. With the unused dailies and master audio, he could theoretically excise the B/C/D plots and still preserve continuity (along with a clean, watchable edit). They still shot those scenes. They filmed the book that is The Hobbit. Not every scene can be salvaged, but I truly believe most of the subplots and probably 80% of the third film could be dropped entirely.
Real waste of absolutely perfect Martin Freeman casting.The Hobbit movies were worse than the Star Wars prequels. At least the latter had an interesting setting and good concept design. The Hobbit movies have perhaps 4-5 good scenes spread over 3 movies, and that is it. The whole thing feels like a cheap cash-in where they somehow managed to get the original actors to star.
Why are the marvel films the go to comparison for bad films? ;-)
He's a big boy. He took the job. He didn't have to. He should have enough pull to say, if you want it done right, I need more time.
Weren't the studio threatening to pull out of New Zealand if he didn't do it? It would have tanked the fledgling industry, I can understand him feeling pressured to do itHe's a big boy. He took the job. He didn't have to. He should have enough pull to say, if you want it done right, I need more time.
Studios will always push for deadlines but he shouldn't have taken the job.
He of all people should not how much pre production time is needed.
Absolutely agree. The Hobbit, though fun, is a very simple story. I don't think they really could've done much with it in the first place. It's just not the type of story people want to see on the big screen. LOTR has way more going for it.
This is so sad to watch. Everyone is so over-worked and stressed out. They danm near worked Peter Jackson to death. Fucking Warner Bros.
Partly because in the actual books it doesn’t even exist - Bilbo gets knocked out offscreen and wakes up when it’s done. Also partly because they tried to turn a relatively small skirmish into a LotR style epic battle, which then makes no sense.The point where 12 dwarves charging from the gates suddenly makes a material difference to a battle involving thousands upon thousands of IRC’s is ridiculous.
This. Peter Jackson didn’t want to do this movies (let alone three of them). The reason they used CG so much was because nothing was planned, so they basically did the movie as they went along (even the script was unfinished).
He salvaged them as best he could, but he wasn't afforded the time or resources to "fix" the mess he was given. He never wanted them to be three movies either, but that was mandated, and thus he was forced to add in hours of new content outside of the book.
Disagree. The Hobbit is a kids story yes, but there are a lot of good scenes in there. It could have been a nice prelude to the LOTR, but they got greedy and The Hobbit was never meant to be a big 3 movie epic like LOTR. It would be a solid 2 and a half to 3 hr movie, at most.