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The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
11,197
*sports a large, large grin*
Just... let us know your thoughts after this door.
Just finished it and uh...
This game loves to fuck with you.

I thought I had it all figured out before the door even started, with the white-haired girl being the common denominator to everything, I already assumed she was the player, sent on some cycle of reincarnation, so I felt pretty smug by the time I reached the end of this door, with the Maid-as-Morgana telling me exactly what I wanted to hear, that perfect tragedy.

Except as the game pointed out, too many things didn't line up, and I was genuinely surprised when the time came to reclaim myself. I have no idea where this is going now, if there's even a white-haired girl named Giselle, but man, am I enjoying this ride.

I love how chapters generally don't overstay their welcome and everything generally strikes the perfect balance between pacing and characterization.

I'm glad I made a separate save right after the fourth door ended, because I assume I've missed some bad endings there.
 
Dec 31, 2017
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Just finished it and uh...
This game loves to fuck with you.

I thought I had it all figured out before the door even started, with the white-haired girl being the common denominator to everything, I already assumed she was the player, sent on some cycle of reincarnation, so I felt pretty smug by the time I reached the end of this door, with the Maid-as-Morgana telling me exactly what I wanted to hear, that perfect tragedy.

Except as the game pointed out, too many things didn't line up, and I was genuinely surprised when the time came to reclaim myself. I have no idea where this is going now, if there's even a white-haired girl named Giselle, but man, am I enjoying this ride.

I love how chapters generally don't overstay their welcome and everything generally strikes the perfect balance between pacing and characterization.

I'm glad I made a separate save right after the fourth door ended, because I assume I've missed some bad endings there.
Did you check the backlog during the chapter?
 

Out_Of_Ammo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,022
Belgium
Just finished it and uh...
This game loves to fuck with you.

I thought I had it all figured out before the door even started, with the white-haired girl being the common denominator to everything, I already assumed she was the player, sent on some cycle of reincarnation, so I felt pretty smug by the time I reached the end of this door, with the Maid-as-Morgana telling me exactly what I wanted to hear, that perfect tragedy.

Except as the game pointed out, too many things didn't line up, and I was genuinely surprised when the time came to reclaim myself. I have no idea where this is going now, if there's even a white-haired girl named Giselle, but man, am I enjoying this ride.

I love how chapters generally don't overstay their welcome and everything generally strikes the perfect balance between pacing and characterization.

I'm glad I made a separate save right after the fourth door ended, because I assume I've missed some bad endings there.
Did you check the backlog during the chapter?
Was just going to ask you too if you checked the backlog during that chapter. I was so confused while reading that chapter once I noticed that and checked the backlog every few sentences :p
 
Dec 31, 2017
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Was just going to ask you too if you checked the backlog during that chapter. I was so confused while reading that chapter once I noticed that and checked the backlog every few sentences :p
You were only confused. I was playing in a dark room at night and was scared out of my seat when that red text appeared out of nowhere; just did not expect something like that at all lol
 

Palette Swap

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
11,197
Okay, now I need to load an old save and check what you guys mean.

Speaking of loading up old saves
I went back and got all three of the bad endings I could get. Things got really eerie in one of them where Giselle escapes and wakes up in present day Paris, and I could swear the stock background they use is like one block from where I live.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,686
Devil Halton's Trap
Just finished it and uh...
This game loves to fuck with you.

I thought I had it all figured out before the door even started, with the white-haired girl being the common denominator to everything, I already assumed she was the player, sent on some cycle of reincarnation, so I felt pretty smug by the time I reached the end of this door, with the Maid-as-Morgana telling me exactly what I wanted to hear, that perfect tragedy.

Except as the game pointed out, too many things didn't line up, and I was genuinely surprised when the time came to reclaim myself. I have no idea where this is going now, if there's even a white-haired girl named Giselle, but man, am I enjoying this ride.

I love how chapters generally don't overstay their welcome and everything generally strikes the perfect balance between pacing and characterization.

I'm glad I made a separate save right after the fourth door ended, because I assume I've missed some bad endings there.
Did you check the backlog/journal in Door 4? Just a suggestion.

The story really goes all-in from this point forward. Happy reading!
 

Palette Swap

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
11,197
Just finished the fifth door. That was by far the most intense this game has gotten so far. This was really hard at times, but also rewarding. There's a genuine, authentic emotional depth in there that I've rarely seen in games.

Soldiering on to the sixth door.

(I found a steam page with screengrabs of all the backlog shenanigans)
 

Arcus Felis

Unshakable Resolve
Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,123
*continues to grin*

The House in Fata Morgana is one of the best experience I ever had with a videogame. I'm glad you like it.
 

Astral

Member
Oct 27, 2017
28,013
I wasn't aware of the backlog stuff. I think I remember looking at it once and finding something interesting about it but I don't remember what it was.
 
Oct 26, 2017
4,865
I played a few hours on PC, to see if it was for me. I'm intrigued and my god the music....Is there anything im missing out, by not playing the new release?

I managed to find my vita....no clue where my charger is tho c:
 

Deleted member 8861

User requested account closure
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Oct 26, 2017
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I played a few hours on PC, to see if it was for me. I'm intrigued and my god the music....Is there anything im missing out, by not playing the new release?

I managed to find my vita....no clue where my charger is tho c:
the new release has 16:9, redrawn art, and an additional voiced chapter (Reincarnation) that's a few hours long (10-12 hours if you listen to all voices, I'm told), and it also includes A Requiem For Innocence, a non-voiced additional chapter to the game you can buy separately on PC (it's in the same style as the Steam release of the main game on there).

In short,
-A new chapter exclusive to PS4/Vita
-An extra chapter you can get on PC
-Redrawn art
 
Oct 26, 2017
4,865
the new release has 16:9, redrawn art, and an additional voiced chapter (Reincarnation) that's a few hours long (10-12 hours if you listen to all voices, I'm told), and it also includes A Requiem For Innocence, a non-voiced additional chapter to the game you can buy separately on PC (it's in the same style as the Steam release of the main game on there).

In short,
-A new chapter exclusive to PS4/Vita
-An extra chapter you can get on PC
-Redrawn art
Cant find my charger rn, so ill have to order a new one for tomorrow. Will I be able to fast forward over the stuff ive already played in the vita version c:
 

OniBaka

Community Resettler
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Oct 25, 2017
1,525
Sydney
You should be able to, enjoy the ride.

Just finished the fifth door. That was by far the most intense this game has gotten so far. This was really hard at times, but also rewarding. There's a genuine, authentic emotional depth in there that I've rarely seen in games.

Soldiering on to the sixth door.

Oh boy
 
Dec 31, 2017
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FYI there is a certain CG that is censored in the Dreams of the Revenant edition, namely
the CG with young Morgana chained and naked. The sensitive body parts were covered up
Normally I'm against censorship, but I don't really mind this one. The original went a bit overboard. The only problem is that it creates inconsistency with the in-game text.
 

MayorSquirtle

Member
May 17, 2018
7,925
"Despair that comes after a moment of happiness is far more agonizing than despair alone."

I'm being threatened.
 
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Shizuka

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,093
Good to see cross-buy confirmed. Really tempting since my CE won't be here for a while …

Looking forward to impressions for the PS4 version and updated art! Any reviews yet?

Still playing the Vita version, but I gave the PS4 version a go for the trophies. The art is very, very crisp on the PS4, the higher resolution does great justice to the new art.
 

takoyaki

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,677
Still playing the Vita version, but I gave the PS4 version a go for the trophies. The art is very, very crisp on the PS4, the higher resolution does great justice to the new art.
That's a relief, great to hear that from you. I wasn't 100% sure about the new art yet.

Guess you just sold me on the digital PS4 version, cross-buy makes it a really good deal imo.
 

Christian

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,636
So...

I think I'm near the end of the second door. The beast is regaining some of his memories, after the game lets you know that he killed Pauline.

Does it get better? Because it is so incredibly dull thus far. I'm really disappointed. I love visual novels, but this has been a drag. I was so excited to finally get a Vita copy from LRG, and I've been slogging through the first parts, anxious for it to improve.
 

Golnei

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,823
So...


Does it get better? Because it is so incredibly dull thus far. I'm really disappointed. I love visual novels, but this has been a drag. I was so excited to finally get a Vita copy from LRG, and I've been slogging through the first parts, anxious for it to improve.

Yes and no - the second door is regarded as the weakest in terms of content and characters, but the style / pace of writing and quality of dialogue don't necessarily have a huge uptick if it's the presentation you're worried about.
 

Christian

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,636
Yes and no - the second door is regarded as the weakest in terms of content and characters, but the style / pace of writing and quality of dialogue don't necessarily have a huge uptick if it's the presentation you're worried about.

I mean, I never, ever like it when the writing involves window after window of "nnnnhh.. grrrrhh... aaarrgghh.." or "HAHAHAHAHAHAHA" over and over again. It's one of the things about chaos;child that drove me nuts, too, along with the fact that so many of those scenes in C;C had voice acting along with it. Just painful, although I have a generally favorable impression of that game. This has it, too, but the contained stories behind each door feel so predictable, I'm having a hard time maintaining interest. I don't have a clue what the overall connection is, and I obviously would like to find out, but getting there has been a pain. I'll try to get more into the third door and see, I guess.
 

Arcus Felis

Unshakable Resolve
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Oct 26, 2017
3,123
I liked the second door, but in retrospect it is indeed the weakest of the three.
You will see. A lot of things will become clear at one point.
 

Lozange

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,096
The third door is when the music really starts getting going imo. And it introduces Maria who's a lot of fun.
Really, I'd say Fata Morgana is always at least *good*, but I don't recommend it specifically for doors 1 and 2. If you're not super sold on it, that's fine? If you're enjoying the art and the music and don't hate the writing, then that's probably enough for now.
 

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Oct 26, 2017
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So...


Does it get better? Because it is so incredibly dull thus far. I'm really disappointed. I love visual novels, but this has been a drag. I was so excited to finally get a Vita copy from LRG, and I've been slogging through the first parts, anxious for it to improve.
I personally really enjoyed that chapter. However, what makes people praise this game so earnestly is in later parts of the game. Arguably, the next part of the story is up a few notches in terms of writing, art and music.
tldr: gets MUCH better and I say this as someone who adored the part you're at
 

Astral

Member
Oct 27, 2017
28,013
I liked Door 2 mainly because of what happens at the end. That shit was really, really well done imo. Door 3 is when it really starts tugging at the heartstrings though. A single screenshot on the game's PSN page of the white haired girl asking Jacopo to spend time with her gave me feels.
 

Arcus Felis

Unshakable Resolve
Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,123
Well... Door 3 was the one I enjoyed the least. I wasn't a fan of the time period and context, and at that point in the game I was really wondering what was the point of all of this.

Needless to say, what followed won me over completely.
I didn't get that door 4 was a fabrication at all. I was getting pumped, angry at The Maid... But still, I subconciously figured there was more. So I questioned it. I realized I got mind-fucked. I entered the real door. And my feelings were thoroughly crushed. Multiple times. Without interruption. And, little by little, all the pieces came together, everything made sense, the game had my full attention, and I wasn't able to stop until the ending credits.
 
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Papercuts

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,007
Been playing this for the first time and enjoying it a lot. Partway through the third door and

OH GOD MARIA

The music in this section has been absolutely incredible, too.
 

Woodbeam

Member
May 6, 2019
687
Playing this now thanks to OniBaka's very generous giveaway, just past Door 2 now. I have to agree with the criticisms of the first 2 Doors here. They were both included in the demo, but enough time had passed since I'd played that that I'd forgotten some substantial details. Still, I found them pretty disappointing. Door 1 starts out with a sibling relationship that's maybe a little too close and then goes exactly how you'd expect, if not even a bit further
Seriously, full yandere? come on.
and Door 2 defeats its own central character arc with the reveal that
Yukimasa was a crazed torturer/killer the entire time.

The overall intrigue the game sets up still has me interested though, which is why I entered the giveaway. Good to hear that things look up from this point, and if the music gets substantially better I'm in for a real treat because it's already been very nice so far.
 

Astral

Member
Oct 27, 2017
28,013
I feel like a crazy person for being hooked on the first two chapters from the demo alone. However, I think that deep down I knew I was gonna buy the full version regardless.
 

MayorSquirtle

Member
May 17, 2018
7,925
Just finished. What a story. The third and fourth doors are definitely a step up over the first two, and then the game picks up pretty dramatically after that though it still had a few issues later on that grated on my nerves a bit as I approached the ending.

Although I think the 7th door is the best part of the game by far, it started showing signs of dragging with scenes like Aimee's torture sessions that went on just a bit too long. It felt like the pacing was even worse in the 8th door and beyond to the ending. There was a lot of good stuff in that last segment of the game, but I found myself thinking "Oh my god, just get on with it already!" many times. The inclusion of Georges and Didier right at the end felt especially strange and unnecessary, even though the painting had been introduced so early on.

Overall, still an excellent game. I cried more than a few times. Looking forward to Requiem and Reincarnation once I get around to them.
 

Static

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
6,107
Yooo OniBaka Thank you again for your very kind giveaway.

Tonight I wrapped up chapter 1.
I don't know what to say except that I'm glad everybody didn't fucking die, but at the same time, that shit unravelled FAST. The flashes of Nellie leaning over Mell as we experienced the flashback to them happy as children were twisted. Mellie's reaction was twisted.

I am at once pleased and unsettled to see that basically nobody acted very well. Mell was a dick to his sister, Nellie was AWFUL to her brother and to the white haired girl, but her entire world came apart in the space of a day, and that fuckin creep Arthur is the worst of the lot. Good riddance to that dude. Hopefully he doesn't show up again. He doesn't deserve the artwork he hasn't got. White Haired Girl is the only one who hasn't been a crummy piece of shit of the four of them. On the contrary. Funny, that, as she's also the only one who has attempted murder.

It was interesting how the black haired maid showed up to direct Mell home when he failed to convince White Haired Girl to come back. He had been alone, and yet she turns up out of the blue. It's very strange indeed that he doesn't even think to notice the peculiarity of it. Is she some sort of supernatural mechanic then? I'm still not sure when the story is set. Are all of these people supposed to be normal human beings with normal life spans who stay dead? The talk of White Haired Girls hands being so cold, and her paleness, had me wondering if some or all of the cast is on the wrong side of the grave.
Anyways.

Lots to think about. I think I am quite hooked. I look forward to continuing with chapter 2 tomorrow.

EDIT: I just realized that the maid was speaking to us in the present day. Not to Mell in his time. She wasn't present to him. And yet, they stitch her dialogue TO US so cleanly into his monologue to nobody. It seems to me then that we are Mel and she's just responding to our cries to nobody in particular, many years too late. Forgive me my dimwittedness.

FINAL EDIT: The word of the day is frisson. A sensation I do not experience frequently enough.
 
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Static

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
6,107
Sooo...
I just cleared chapter 4 and got ending 3. And though I saved my game at the final choice I was confronted with, I genuinely have no idea what's going on anymore. The ambiguities in dialogue compounded with the unreliable narrator, if we can call the Maid that, the alternating perspectives and dialogue hidden inside the log... I'm at a loss. I don't know anymore what I'm supposed to know.

The story of the fourth door was all a fabrication? Is that correct? And the fourth door wasn't a tale about the white haired girl, but one based on Giselle's history? And Giselle is the Maid, as well as the witch? Is that correct? But she ... she doesn't want to remember herself? Or for me to leave? Is the white haired girl ALSO Giselle, or does she have yet to be named?
To anyone annoyed at my inability to follow along, sorry. I promise I'm paying attention and enjoying myself, but this last bit has just thrown me entirely for a loop, and I'd like to get grounded before I press forward any further. I want to be able to fully appreciate the rest, without the risk of spoiling myself on any future details by googling.

EDIT: Read some of the posts from the top of the page. I'm pleased to see that I'm not the only one who was thrown for a bit of a loop, and while I don't mind a story leaving me in a place where I have more questions than answers, I feel rather like I have only questions at this point, and few or no answers at all. If my confusion is appropriate though, then that's great.
 

Mochino

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 31, 2017
381
Sooo...
I just cleared chapter 4 and got ending 3. And though I saved my game at the final choice I was confronted with, I genuinely have no idea what's going on anymore. The ambiguities in dialogue compounded with the unreliable narrator, if we can call the Maid that, the alternating perspectives and dialogue hidden inside the log... I'm at a loss. I don't know anymore what I'm supposed to know.

The story of the fourth door was all a fabrication? Is that correct? And the fourth door wasn't a tale about the white haired girl, but one based on Giselle's history? And Giselle is the Maid, as well as the witch? Is that correct? But she ... she doesn't want to remember herself? Or for me to leave? Is the white haired girl ALSO Giselle, or does she have yet to be named?
To anyone annoyed at my inability to follow along, sorry. I promise I'm paying attention and enjoying myself, but this last bit has just thrown me entirely for a loop, and I'd like to get grounded before I press forward any further. I want to be able to fully appreciate the rest, without the risk of spoiling myself on any future details by googling.

EDIT: Read some of the posts from the top of the page. I'm pleased to see that I'm not the only one who was thrown for a bit of a loop, and while I don't mind a story leaving me in a place where I have more questions than answers, I feel rather like I have only questions at this point, and few or no answers at all. If my confusion is appropriate though, then that's great.
Lol don't worry, the next few chapters are about unraveling these specific questions you have. 4 was a mindfuck for me but after that was when everything started falling into place.