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THE KING OF FIGHTERS XIV |OT| Patch 3.0!
- Thread starter SAB-CA
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Xiao Hai impressions of the DLC characters
Najd
Blue Mary
Oswald
https://twitter.com/BlusterWolf/status/987971241565933569
Heidern
https://twitter.com/BlusterWolf/status/987974686398210050
Najd
Blue Mary
Oswald
https://twitter.com/BlusterWolf/status/987971241565933569
Heidern
https://twitter.com/BlusterWolf/status/987974686398210050
Man the button hold trick is like night and day for my play. I already rocked K' but I was raw dog doing all his Ein trigger cancels this whole time. Goin qcf+HP into fwd+LK all the time at a rapid pace. Now I just QCF and hold the forward input and tap HP LK and fireball at a relaxed pace. Its made me cleaner at changing up Ein trigger cancels into the kick or punch should I read jump in or backhops. Canceling into super with K' is stupid quick now too. With anyone honestly. I input it mid combo and it just comes the fuck out buffered.
Just so much fuckin easier to do stuff now. Any tips veteran folks on who abuses this input hold stuff the most in combos? I'd like to refeel out some past cast I passed over for others throughout the years in case they click harder now that I got a handle on button holding to get shortcuts.
Just so much fuckin easier to do stuff now. Any tips veteran folks on who abuses this input hold stuff the most in combos? I'd like to refeel out some past cast I passed over for others throughout the years in case they click harder now that I got a handle on button holding to get shortcuts.
I was never practical playing the game I just loved it as a series. You shoulda seen my old K'/VIce/ Ex Kyo stuff on KOF 13 without knowing anyshortcuts lol. Man I was working the shit outta those sticks.
Plus till recently I was super spread across titles. From the moment I left UMVC3 in its first year upon seeing what it was turning into I made it a point to try and experience as many fighters as I could to study what each had to offer in the genre. Holy crap did the genre blow up too. I ended up feeling like a fighting game archivist after awhile. Researching, studying, testing, exploring. The anime fighters especially pumped out a buttload of things and kept me busy. Never left me too long with any one title as I'd circle them each trying to put time in around college, work and at the time a personnel game project that I put on hold recently due to career stuff. Plus I just never could stop working on TVC.
I was pretty distracted lol.
So glad to come back to KOF learning cleaner input technique. Currently I play it and DBFZ and I'm just waiting on Arcana Heart Six Stars to get its dlc to bother. That means for the first time in a long while I'm down to two. Just always been to fascinated with game design and I get easily pulled to check out stuff. Harder to keep up now with a career.
Looks like another fun event, all that face hiding tech tho.
If that's reason enough, then I say get in on those Oswald combos.
Barring that, wait for a sale on the DLC.
Check out the previous page of this thread, we discuss it there. It also contains a link to a Juicebox video which talks about it.
The Special Edition was released last year so it comes with everything but the new DLC.
-3 I would say it's hard to punish depending on pushback and blockstun, -4 is doable but still hard.
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Xiaohai vs. GXBridget: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lpVHbxp8cM
I think this is the first time they have played since 3.0 hit.
GXBridget showcasing how good Najd is on point, he also made full use of Najd's counter into drop kick cancel. I don't think I've seen anyone shutdown Xiaohai's Kula like this before.
I think this is the first time they have played since 3.0 hit.
GXBridget showcasing how good Najd is on point, he also made full use of Najd's counter into drop kick cancel. I don't think I've seen anyone shutdown Xiaohai's Kula like this before.
She's really scary after 10 seconds and her rekkas are way better than I thought..
Kula, Iori, King, Alice, Mai, Robert and Ryo.
Agreed, the first hit of the rekkas can act as an anti-air as well. And her counters are pretty much the best in the game thanks to the dropkick cancel.
She can basically start dishing out big damage before either character even builds one power meter.
Her play style came together surprisingly well overall.
Top 8 KVO character rates
>3 Najd
>3 Heidern
>3 Mature
>2 K'
>2 Shun'ei
>2 Athena
>1 Kula
>1 Iori
>1 Benimaru
>1 Leona
>1 Vice
>1 Blue Mary
>1 Chang
>1 King of Dinosaurs
>1 Verse
>1 Yuri
>1 Billy
>1 Andy
>Score (Najd, Heidern, Mature)
>Sanwa|M' (Benimaru, K', Iori | Kula, K', Iori)
>PandaTV|NaiWang (Leona, Vice, Mature | Shun'ei, Vice, Leona | Heidern, Vice, Leona)
>MadKOF (Blue Mary, Shun'ei, Heidern | Chang, Shun'ei, Heidern)
Top 8 Texas Showdown
>3 Heiderns
>2 Kyos
>2 Kulas
>2 Ioris
>2 Leonas
>1 Rock
>1 K'
>1 Robert
>1 Dinosaur
>1 Athena
>1 Yuri
>1 Verse
>1 Nakoruru
>1 Yamazaki
>1 Shun'ei
>1 Choi
>1 Oswald
>1 Mature
>1 King
>1 Ralf
>1 Terry
>1 Benimaru
>1 Zarina
>1 Meitenkun
>Wero Asamiya (Athena Iori Yuri), (Athena Yuri Iori)
>Violent Kain (Rock K' Iori), (Iori Robert Kyo), (Robert Kyo Iori)
>El Rosa (Dinosaur Leona Verse), (Leona Heidern Verse), (Kula Leona Verse), (Kula, Ramon, Leona)
>Stealth (Nakoruru Yamazaki Shun'ei)
>3 Najd
>3 Heidern
>3 Mature
>2 K'
>2 Shun'ei
>2 Athena
>1 Kula
>1 Iori
>1 Benimaru
>1 Leona
>1 Vice
>1 Blue Mary
>1 Chang
>1 King of Dinosaurs
>1 Verse
>1 Yuri
>1 Billy
>1 Andy
>Score (Najd, Heidern, Mature)
>Sanwa|M' (Benimaru, K', Iori | Kula, K', Iori)
>PandaTV|NaiWang (Leona, Vice, Mature | Shun'ei, Vice, Leona | Heidern, Vice, Leona)
>MadKOF (Blue Mary, Shun'ei, Heidern | Chang, Shun'ei, Heidern)
Top 8 Texas Showdown
>3 Heiderns
>2 Kyos
>2 Kulas
>2 Ioris
>2 Leonas
>1 Rock
>1 K'
>1 Robert
>1 Dinosaur
>1 Athena
>1 Yuri
>1 Verse
>1 Nakoruru
>1 Yamazaki
>1 Shun'ei
>1 Choi
>1 Oswald
>1 Mature
>1 King
>1 Ralf
>1 Terry
>1 Benimaru
>1 Zarina
>1 Meitenkun
>Wero Asamiya (Athena Iori Yuri), (Athena Yuri Iori)
>Violent Kain (Rock K' Iori), (Iori Robert Kyo), (Robert Kyo Iori)
>El Rosa (Dinosaur Leona Verse), (Leona Heidern Verse), (Kula Leona Verse), (Kula, Ramon, Leona)
>Stealth (Nakoruru Yamazaki Shun'ei)
3.0 doing well so far, that's good variety.
Iori/Beni/Kula usage has really gone down.
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Only watched Top 3 for Texas Showdown and was nice. Really liked KVO tho, we had way more different characters during polls (even Vanessa and Whip).
We also had WELL last weekend and ET won with Oswald / Heidern / Leona.
2 out of 3 being new DLC aint bad. Maybe a rebalance after the dust settles down.
I still think that Iori is the best char in the game. He lost some damage and his St. D isn't broken anymore but he still has everything, C. throw into a full combo, overhead, reversal, fireball, fast backdash, damage and the best cross up ever made.
Right now it's the biggest scene but I think NA is fine, just don't compare it to SFV/Tekken/DBZ.
I've found that the mash punch moves can be executed by mashing both punches at the same time. Like, I can press A&C three times in quick succession with Chang and get the spinning ball to come out--this works with anybody who has a mash button move, because pressing A&C at the same times counts as two punch inputs.
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He was really nervous in the winners finals but he did well in the grand finals. Looks like Dino isn't a good pick against Heidern.
Edit: It's nice to see a Bandeiras in a top 3 too.
Jump C/CD and fireballs lol.
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Patch Notes 3.02 (This was happening?!?)
A lot of changed behaviors and bug fixes. Did Hein lose something important? Did these state changes removed unintended juggles? I've really no idea.
A lot of changed behaviors and bug fixes. Did Hein lose something important? Did these state changes removed unintended juggles? I've really no idea.
Seems they just adjusted one of Hein's normal throws. His buffs went well beyond that in 3.0.
Mary's DM nerf was very much expected, the dang thing was invincible and positive on block lol.
Too bad they didn't take this opportunity to nerf Heidern some.
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I liked using Splash Rose as a way to make Slider Safe(r), figured it was a decent way to use meter in a unique way. But straight positive is too much, yeah.
I was glad to see they didn't murder Nadj's dropkick! I imagine many other companies would have turned her and Heidern into Paperweights around now.
Good to hear Hein (or apparently Shun'Ei too) didn't lose any of the new Fancy. I still KINDA miss Sylvie's Double Paula Experiment DM (as stupid as it was), but that had to die so that others may live (longer).
(And Sylvie poppin' up in front of SNK's offices, in a photo mode example in Heroes new trailer was funny weird.)
I was glad to see they didn't murder Nadj's dropkick! I imagine many other companies would have turned her and Heidern into Paperweights around now.
Good to hear Hein (or apparently Shun'Ei too) didn't lose any of the new Fancy. I still KINDA miss Sylvie's Double Paula Experiment DM (as stupid as it was), but that had to die so that others may live (longer).
(And Sylvie poppin' up in front of SNK's offices, in a photo mode example in Heroes new trailer was funny weird.)
It was a blast aside from Xiaohai steamrolling everyone.
I don't think I've seen anyone look this bored while winning a tournament, the guy honestly looked insulted at the level of play.
Unless the likes of GXbridget, ET or M' are in a tournament then it's pretty much an easy win for him.
Oh and Najd's dropkick had quite the showing.
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Quite agreed. She doesn't have the best tools to escape pressure, no dependable Cr.C Anti-air / trade, safe jump trickery can get her to open up AND waste meters, and button holds always make her minus an option that others have more readily on tap. She's better at wake up and stalling than I initially thought, but she's not STRONG at it.
Very true, Reynald was also holding both kicks so that limited his options a lot but people would just back off.
Najd players are also getting away with rekka spam which iirc are kinda negative.
She is strong and a great point character but people just haven't adjusted to how she plays yet. The fact that Xiaohai didn't jump on her right away is a good indication that she isn't too good, for now anyway.