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They can't bring back non mutants. Scarlet Witch ressurected herself.
Well they only keep back up copies of mutants but i guess if it was jean or emma they could have made a quick download and edited his mind then killed him, seems easier to just make him forget tho
So what is Hickman's next proje
They have psychics but still please let this be a thing.
That sub stack stuff, I'm receiving emails with crap I can't parse in it and don't have the energy to click the links. Sometimes the titles are exciting but I still mark them as read without opening them.
I'm too old, dumb or lazy for this shit lol
that was my first thought but the killing and resurrecting him would be better story drama lol
X-men Red is going to sell a lot better than a comic book called Arakko. I think Marvel sees X-men, Immortal X-men, and X-men Red as the three biggest books in the line. Al Ewing, and Kieron Gillen are both considered some of the best writers in the business.
Immortal X-Men, X-Men Red, Legion of X, and Knights of X are all named what they are because potential buyers know what "X-Men" and "X" mean moreso than naming a book Arrakko or Quiet Council. I'm half surprised Marauders wasn't changed to something like "Skull and X-Bones" or "Pirates of X."
Still, "Planet X" was sitting right there and they didn't take it.
Though I haven't seen anything from Hickman that seems to indicate he's bitter, the ending of Inferno feels a little meta about how the status quo lasted longer than intended, especially with the whole 'We built it for...' speech ending with Stan Lee's favorite term, 'True Believers'
The interview I read iirc had Hickman saying he basically went into this knowing he might not get to finish it because Krakoa was such a juicy status quo.
He went to the X-Men office and said something like I'm ready for phase 2 of my 3 phase story, are you? They said no, he was like cool cool, I'll wrap up my stuff and it's all yours.
He had 3 phases planned and Krakoa was just phase 1 and no one wants to move on from that yet, I hope it lasts for as long as Claremont's X-Men run at least.
Whats the longest the xmen have stayed in one area? Out side of the mansion of course, how long did they last in central park or utopia?
Where would one get started with X-Men comics? House of X and Powers of X? And how is Marvel Unlimited for reading X-Men these days?
Agreed! I want to last so long that kids who are my age when I started reading comics watches or reads old X-Men stuff and ask "Why are they at a school?"
Moira's interjection as a mutant didn't change much either, even though she provided Xavier and Magneto damn near 20 years of lead time. After all, the 8th Cosmos is already damn near mirrored of the 7th with the exception being Moira is a mutant, so who's to say that another death/rebirth cycle couldn't have a bunch of stuff happen again the exact same way until we get to the Krakoa era, where she would want things to be different, even if slightly so, in order to avoid the man/mutant/machine war. Most alt-timelines and universes play out exactly the same as 616 until the event divergence, so this wouldn't be a drastic change.
Who is or isn't an X-Men member changes with the seasons as teams are disbanded and new teams are formed. The original X-Men Red added Trinary and Gentle to the team, for example.
It's reductionist to say that only historical X-Men are allowed in an X-Men title, especially when we just had an X-Men run in 2019-2020 that wasn't about the X-Men at all.
Marvel Unlimited is probably the best bang for your buck, yeah. Physical collections can quickly get expensive, especially in the current era where the line is so large.
If you have no familiarity with X-Men at all, I'd recommend starting with:
- X-Men Season One as a more modern take on the original setup
- X-Men Grand Design trilogy as a catch-up of the major plots from the 60s-80s
Alternatively, you could read up summaries of these events and jump straight to House of X and Powers of X. It's up to you and whatever grabs you!
Yeah, it could be done. They could say Moira dies, resets, and does everything exactly the same way until we get to the point where Mystique and Destiny make their move in Inferno, but to me that just feels like a cheat. I've never seen the question of "Will mutants, man or machines win in the future" as something Hickman was interested in providing a definite answer to. I always expected Hickman's run to end with Moira depowered and Krakoa left to survive and navigate an uncertain future. To me this feels like an unsurprising but natural conclusion to Moira's place in the Krakoa era, but this is comics, so some writer or editorial in the future could very well milk another reset out of her.[\spoiler]
Hickman has so often said that he dislikes comic book events which burn down everything and break stuff, leaving future writers with less to work with. This is of course ironic given he named this arc "Inferno" and it is about two characters wanting to "burn everything down". But I suspect that's part of the joke.
To me, this fate for Moira feels like turning her into an interesting problem for others to make use of in the future. A former (?) mutant who knows WAY too much about almost everything mutants could possibly do or be in various situations. And she is misanthropic towards her own people and wants to end them (as they are) for her view of the greater good.
That flows in an interesting and ominous way with the recent reveals about Abigail Brand's viewpoint and scheming. If Brand didn't already know about Moira, well, I would be she's about to become really interested. (I'm straight out assuming Brand finds out anything the Quiet Council talks about.)
To me, this fate for Moira feels like turning her into an interesting problem for others to make use of in the future. A former (?) mutant who knows WAY too much about almost everything mutants could possibly do or be in various situations. And she is misanthropic towards her own people and wants to end them (as they are) for her view of the greater good.
That flows in an interesting and ominous way with the recent reveals about Abigail Brand's viewpoint and scheming. If Brand didn't already know about Moira, well, I would be she's about to become really interested. (I'm straight out assuming Brand finds out anything the Quiet Council talks about.)
It brings up a good question though: which side are Doug/Warlock/Krakoa on? It wasn't made clear by the end of Inferno. Do they have their own agenda?
"This entire fight is fucking stupid and we're going to make you assholes get it right."
As I stated earlier I could always just rename the thread to: The Krakoa Era of X-Men |OT| We'll miss you John
Feels like he is the only one advocating for Krakoa. Even know the mutants feel kinda dismissive to the giant monster island that makes buildings and feeds them.
Who has really interacted with Krakoa as a peer? Doug, Warlock, Apocalypse, and Wolverine? Am I missing anyone?
Lorna had some weird relationship with Krakoa that led to her building the boneyard
Not HoX/PoX IMO. It's more impactful if you know the history. And yes Marvel Unlimited will let you get through all of it except for anything released in the past couple of months.
I think this is a good starting point:
Reddit - Dive into anything
www.reddit.com
Anybody else here listen to this Pod?
Episode of Hickman talking Inferno.
X QUESTION:
What's going on with the OG Mansion, is it just empty and abandoned at the moment? Last time I saw it was here when Cyclops met up with Cap in Planet Sized X-Men. I am surprised it hasn't been already transported or at least a copy remade on Krakoa.
Not HoX/PoX IMO. It's more impactful if you know the history. And yes Marvel Unlimited will let you get through all of it except for anything released in the past couple of months.
I think this is a good starting point:
Reddit - Dive into anything
Oh I'll bookmark that, thanks!
ORCHIS is probably the biggest immediate threat. But the Hordeculture have hacked the gates so they are an issue.
The Children are probably the next big crossover event.
Besides that we still have the Russian issue, the baby Hellfire Club and the mutants of Arakko. And Brand
Besides alot of talent writers onboard so I suspect we'll get some interesting villains.
That works!
The Krakoa Era of X-Men |OT| Xavier's Island for Evil Mutants
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Piotr doesn't count his whole current storyline is that he can't be trusted because his brother is technically controlling him.
Chances of Exodus getting featured more this year? He's been awfully quiet since I last saw him scheming with talking to mutant children on the side. Also what's the likelihood of the many-angled ones coming back for Vulcan?
Exodus is a True Believer he's not scheming. But I suspect he'll be a prominent part of Immortal X-Men since that is about the Council.
Nice! Hoping he gets featured more, regardless if it is villain/hero/tweener. Wish he and Sinister had more interactions.
I enjoyed Inferno but it wasn't exactly the big finale I was expecting. It wasn't really of a finale at all. For all the "chickens coming home to roost" implications of the build up to it, nothing has really changed at all. The only material difference between pre-Inferno and post-Inferno is Moira becoming human. But she hasn't been a factor since HoX/PoX anyway.