It's weird af. Even the super fucked up Poseidon princess scene in GOW3 didnt make me as uncomfortable as how the violence looks in this game.
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The Last of Us Part II - Spoiler Thread
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Uncharted 4 had some small delays on the year it released IIRC.
Yeah that's true.
Difference here is a global pandemic. So who knows when the game is coming out. I really hope it's going to be soon.
It happens all the time, and games are leaked all the time too, nothing new here. I mean, we have had this kind of threads with offcam footage and game scripts being leaked, and the games were released and sold well either way.
I don't know but I think these spoilers are making me want to buy an ultimate edition with 1/2 with a ps5 in a few years. Spoilers don't really spoil things for me they make them more interesting because I want to see the story threads coherently
I'm just reacting to the new information we're being given. Like everyone else in the thread.
Jesus man the way she just grabs it and twists it. You can hear it snap too. Kind of mirrors the seraphytes when they say "clip their wings" and render their arms useless.
this has me starting to think this IS the end of the game. how the hell is she going to survive very long with an entirely useless arm like that? Her best bet is just ending the whole trip and going back to jackson to heal.... there is no fixing that with a med kit.
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You don't play as Ellie in the second half of the game.
Jesus man the way she just grabs it and twists it. You can hear it snap too. Kind of mirrors the seraphytes when they say "clip their wings" and render their arms useless.
this has me starting to think this IS the end of the game. how the hell is she going to survive very long with an entirely useless arm like that? Her best bet is just ending the whole trip and going back to jackson to heal.... there is no fixing that with a med kit.
The difference is that those games had release dates, crazy times indeed...
ND's animation is absolutely top notch which makes the violence feel more real.
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Sorry, I also meant clips. For example the caved in skull of Joel
Then this clearly is not a game for you. A game about uttermost realism in the apocalypse will not hold back on showing the brutal natures of the people surviving in it. And that is the way it should be.
Go play TWDG, its a little more lighter on the heart.
I know dude it's fucking wild, Abby is a legit rugby player slaughtering children here it's not even a fair fight
Jesus man the way she just grabs it and twists it. You can hear it snap too. Kind of mirrors the seraphytes when they say "clip their wings" and render their arms useless.
this has me starting to think this IS the end of the game. how the hell is she going to survive very long with an entirely useless arm like that? Her best bet is just ending the whole trip and going back to jackson to heal.... there is no fixing that with a med kit.
Hmm I don't know why I decided to come in here.
It was just as bad as I feared.
this is my most anticipated game in years and the mystery was shattered in a mouse-click
It was just as bad as I feared.
this is my most anticipated game in years and the mystery was shattered in a mouse-click
Sony took a gamble, they want to release the game in optimal conditions but having a completed game ready to be released when it's best for them has a serious leak risk, surely they already knew that and will try to take down all the leaked footage. And considering the situation won't stabilize soon, most people will forget about the details when the game launches.
They are going for that super realistic violence in this game. Both graphics and animations make it really brutal and uncomfortable to watch. What i saw so far... i am pretty sure that many ppl will not be able to handle the violence of this game.
All this information really, really soured me on the game. I wasn't going to get it Day 1, but I was eventually going to get it (especially after getting confirmation that MP is separate from the game)... but all these story bits sound so, so bad to me. Hard pass now.
The idea of playing as Abby is specially unappealing to me. I won't justify Joel and Ellie's action as those of good people. They killed a ton of people, sure. But I feel it was never out of viciousness or evil. They never went out of their way to hurt someone who didn't want to hurt them in turn. You could argue that Joel's last actions in the first game could be more objectionable than anything he had done before but... it still was for the sake of Ellie. It's not like he woke up one day and said "I'm gonna kill me some Fireflies!". From what I've read, Abby is just out for blood and actually enjoys the pain she causes. A revenge story is not as appealing to me as a survival story.
Can we please stop this narrative? "If you don't like it, shut up and leave!" Let people express their opinions about this game, even if *gasp* it's not what you want to hear.
The idea of playing as Abby is specially unappealing to me. I won't justify Joel and Ellie's action as those of good people. They killed a ton of people, sure. But I feel it was never out of viciousness or evil. They never went out of their way to hurt someone who didn't want to hurt them in turn. You could argue that Joel's last actions in the first game could be more objectionable than anything he had done before but... it still was for the sake of Ellie. It's not like he woke up one day and said "I'm gonna kill me some Fireflies!". From what I've read, Abby is just out for blood and actually enjoys the pain she causes. A revenge story is not as appealing to me as a survival story.
Can we please stop this narrative? "If you don't like it, shut up and leave!" Let people express their opinions about this game, even if *gasp* it's not what you want to hear.
People have their lines, what's not to get.
I can watch a John Wick movie and enjoy it because it's mostly gunplay and hand to hand fights and the fights are genuinely creative while I thought something like the Raid 2 was a little too violent for me and did way more with blades and lingered on things, I often had to look away. It was a huge step up in violence from The Raid 1.
First game was brutal. Sequel is upping in away that some might find unappealing. The gameplay trailers I did see were hard to sit through because I just felt each kill more.
Makes sense.
You know just because a story isn't something you want doesn't make it a bad story. I've noticed that people seem to have trouble separating those two things, especially when stuff leaks without context. Or maybe I'm just more down for the wild rides some of these things turn into.
The Star Wars movie franchise is not a 1:1 comparison to the really great game that is the TLoU and the reputation of ND. Star Wars fans had many reason to be mad at that franchise. If the main thing this game does is upset people who fell in love with the characters of this broken and bleak universe, who just so happen to fall victim to the same things that they did in said universe, but the gameplay and storytelling is great, I don't see that as a bad thing.
This thread and the other one is full of people complaining about these of points. So that's why people are calling them divisive.
But if they already lost your sale more information you don't like isn't going to make them lose your sale again.
The "if 1 is about love, 2 is about hate", the torture porn trailers, "we don't say fun", and this synopsis creates a picture of a very bleak game with little to no moments of light.
I know that won't end up being the case, but it feels like if there were a giraffe in this game Abby would snap its neck and power bomb it.
I know that won't end up being the case, but it feels like if there were a giraffe in this game Abby would snap its neck and power bomb it.
I had a thought.
If Abby were a man would this be too much for people? Like he's just a big and absolutely obliterating Ellie and her Girlfriend. And this is the character you play as for the second half. Just imagining the same scene but Abby more male presenting made me kind of uncomfortable (besides the sheer violence).
If Abby were a man would this be too much for people? Like he's just a big and absolutely obliterating Ellie and her Girlfriend. And this is the character you play as for the second half. Just imagining the same scene but Abby more male presenting made me kind of uncomfortable (besides the sheer violence).
I remember there were some discussions when people had finished TLOU1 about how the ending could cause people to try to hunt down Joel after how much killing he did. About how any sequel could be about revenge on Joel from another characters perspective and Ellie then going and trying to get revenge on the person who came for Joel. While TLOU2 leaks don't follow that exactly, they're pretty close - I also think this was the strongest narrative thread to continue from the ending of TLOU2. My real wonder is how much the infected will play into TLOU2. They played a pretty big part in TLOU1 because of Ellie's cure and the majority of the game was spent either stealthing your way past them or killing them.
It's definitely going to ignite those articles about violence in video games again
I agree.
Not sure if you're familiar with them, but they have been ranting in similar ways from before VIIR's launch and they are still going.
Most likely you'll be seeing these posts from them till launch or beyond.
Watching that clip killed me!! I can't wait for all the gay angst.
Shes already going to be controversial and hated. If she was a man, I legit think she'd have a shot at most hated videogame character this gen or at least in a long long time. It would feel 10 times worse playing as that character.
Yeah everything we've seen of this shows the infected barely being important. Theyll probably be just there for gameplay purposes
I'm liking everything I've exposed myself to so far lmao. I'm just glad we can finally put the sexual assault and repopulation nonsense to rest. Couldn't stand them.
Yes it's very similar to how the violence inflicted on Baldur (by Kratos and by others) is kind of only allowed as acceptable because he's male.
It's a weird situation (for Sony) of wanting extreme violence and torture and still having female characters but wanting to tip toe around the imagery of brutally torturing women as a man.
The first game was interesting because Joel's dilemna was about his egoistical nature as an individual in the face of what is essentially the salvation of humanity. This second game seems to be purely about blind personal revenge, people killing each other because they are hurt in their fee-feelings.
The fact that the infection is not even playing a major role in the story indicates that ND themselves did not really understand what made the first game great in the first place. You could take this sort revenge story and place it in modern day USA it wouldn't make a difference. The world of TLOU is not relevant to this plot, and this plot is not relevant to the world of TLOU.
The fact that the infection is not even playing a major role in the story indicates that ND themselves did not really understand what made the first game great in the first place. You could take this sort revenge story and place it in modern day USA it wouldn't make a difference. The world of TLOU is not relevant to this plot, and this plot is not relevant to the world of TLOU.
There isn't really evidence to suggest that the infected don't play a major role either, in a sense. I always thought the core of TLOU was the characters, everything else is just the cherry on top. Without the characters, the game fails.
And how is the plot not relevant to the world of TLOU? It's literally textbook TLOU. It's showing you that everyone of those 'NPC' people you encountered in the game, they are their own individual Ellie or Joel, as in they have their own harrowing stories, their own families, and every course of action in the first game has a ripple effect, revenge story or not. I can't see how that's not integral to the world they've established, as it forces you to think about everyone as legitimate people in this game, and not just non playable characters who have no importance and are just there to be killed.
I didn't say it would. I'm just reacting to gross content. There's nothing more or less to it than that. There's nothing else to talk about right now.
I care a lot more about Final Fantasy than I do about the Last of Us.
I never said that, your comment is really reductionist. My point was, it's strange to complain about a post-apocalyptic story being vicious and ruthless, mostly considering that the first game is already this way.
Joel and Ellie never stopped to think about what they were doing, survival of the fittest was one of the main points of the game and they simply killed to survive, like all the other characters in the game. They had a "goal", to deliver Ellie to the fireflies, and they stomped on every obstacle to reach their location. Of course the "bad guys" were often comically bad in order to make the player feel less guilty, but their actions brought a lot of misery and even destroyed humanity's last hope, so it was easy to expect them paying in the sequel. In fact, playing as a victim is a really good way to illustrate that the series has no heroes or saviors.
That ending fight is so damn brutal. Abby is definitely going to become the most hated gaming character after this game comes out.
I figured I'd break every code that I hold dear and just spoil myself willingly before some prick on Twitter does it and uh... I hate a whole lot of this.
Joel dying was expected by the way he goes sounds so unceremonious and garish. If Ellie dies too, this whole thing will seem painfully and unnecessarily edgy - not in the "Welcome to Hot Topic" way, moreso like recent seasons of The Walking Dead where named characters get decapitated just for the sake of having some sort of impact regardless of the impact it has on the narrative.
Splitting playtime up is a novel idea but if we're essentially squaring off against Ellie and then she ultimately dies in the end, this will have felt far too sour and not in the way that grim storytelling should, rather like "what was the point?"
Uncharted 4 showed me that Naughty Dog was not above disappointing me (even though UC4 is still a solid 8/10 to me, the narrative and pacing took a real nose dive) and if all of this is on the up and up, I'm not going to be happy with this.
Ultimately, this has me worried that perhaps Last of Us should have been left as is. One of the greatest video games ever made didn't need a follow-up but up until now, I was willing to get on board because of my love for ND, the first game and my belief that they would satisfactorily follow the first game even if it didn't hit as hard as the first game. This doesn't sound like it's going to have any impact other than making me frustrated and confused with their intentions.
All in all, I'm not too pleased. This sounds pretty miserable.
Joel dying was expected by the way he goes sounds so unceremonious and garish. If Ellie dies too, this whole thing will seem painfully and unnecessarily edgy - not in the "Welcome to Hot Topic" way, moreso like recent seasons of The Walking Dead where named characters get decapitated just for the sake of having some sort of impact regardless of the impact it has on the narrative.
Splitting playtime up is a novel idea but if we're essentially squaring off against Ellie and then she ultimately dies in the end, this will have felt far too sour and not in the way that grim storytelling should, rather like "what was the point?"
Uncharted 4 showed me that Naughty Dog was not above disappointing me (even though UC4 is still a solid 8/10 to me, the narrative and pacing took a real nose dive) and if all of this is on the up and up, I'm not going to be happy with this.
Ultimately, this has me worried that perhaps Last of Us should have been left as is. One of the greatest video games ever made didn't need a follow-up but up until now, I was willing to get on board because of my love for ND, the first game and my belief that they would satisfactorily follow the first game even if it didn't hit as hard as the first game. This doesn't sound like it's going to have any impact other than making me frustrated and confused with their intentions.
All in all, I'm not too pleased. This sounds pretty miserable.
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I wake up and I see this fucking thread exist, why the hell do mods allow it and why does OP make these pathetic threads always months in advance? If you want to talk about spoilers, go to the chat of edgy streamers or 4chan!
have legit tears in my eyes from laughing so hard here. well done.
This I agree, I felt that the first game had no interesting info about the infection and it seems the second one won't fix it and will be more human drama. But I think that playing as an opposing party is a good touch and fits the human drama theme a lot, and tbh the fungi infection was only a flavor added to the first game, the same exact story could have been told with random zombies. Joel's dilemma was something presented at the end of the game, it was the result of the events of the whole story but was never the main game theme. So maybe Part II presents the revenge story in a interesting way the same as Joel's decision was a good ending for the first game.
I would like to know where some of you guys have collected all the cutscenes and all standby, as well as contextual, gameplay moments to come up with such aggressively negative takes about the narrative and cinematic direction. I wanna see. 😞
I wanna know if Ellie and Dina get married damn it.
I wanna know if Ellie and Dina get married damn it.
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