I know, I was just wondering if they added different speeds in the full version. It was a bit too fast in the demo for me, something like 2x would be perfect.
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The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III Review Thread
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I know, I was just wondering if they added different speeds in the full version. It was a bit too fast in the demo for me, something like 2x would be perfect.
Oh god, I just thought about Falcom looking at the new Atelier and how well it did for some inspiration lol
Hahah I guess. Though from what I understand, it's worse in terms of the amount of open questions and where it leaves you in the story... Not necessarily in presentation (aka, just cutting off a cut scene abruptly). If a story intends to end on a cliffhanger, usually you realize they are planning and building towards a cliffhanger before the credits actually happen. That wasn't the case with CS1, that came totally out of left field. Not sure if that will actually be the same in CS3.
I haven't played ZTD but I have played CS4 and it is not remotely as bad as people make ZTD sound. I do think it's significantly worse than CS3 though. The main issue is the pacing, which is easily the worst of any Trails game. There's also a major plot point that's conveyed a bit poorly, to the point where Kondo has admitted to it in interviews and tried to explain...which only made things more confusing as he seemed to be directly contradicting what explanation the game did have.
CS3 has the worst cliffhanger in the series by far, by every possible metric.
Ooookaaay... Haha I guess it's confirmed now that I will be staring at the title screen with a blank expression and having lost all my vocabulary aside from "What?" and "How?" for even longer than I did after CS1. Too bad usually I am alone when playing video games so nobody gets to see that comedy unfold, but alas.
Indeed all great games my ranking is:
3rd > FC > CS > SC > CS2
If not for the strong ending and epilogue I would have really disliked the story in CS2
There's nothing in the options for it at least, just on/off with the touchpad.
Damn, figured that'd probably be the case. Just gotta deal with it, I guess.
CS4 is fine.
Honestly, CS4 is a year or so out - there's no need to overthink whether or not CS4 will be bad/good/somewhere-in-between. If you're skeptical, wait for more impressions/reviews in a year's time.
Does the game have its issues? Of course. But just as people can easily get soaked into a narrow perspective of things like hearing about fanbase gatekeeping of how CS3 has too much connection with previous games in the series that you shouldn't play it, ( even though reviewers who are less attached to it can find the game/story plenty fun - and made him wanna play CS1/2 ) - you end up often seeing the side of the argument that is perhaps too heated.
Honestly, CS4 is a year or so out - there's no need to overthink whether or not CS4 will be bad/good/somewhere-in-between. If you're skeptical, wait for more impressions/reviews in a year's time.
Does the game have its issues? Of course. But just as people can easily get soaked into a narrow perspective of things like hearing about fanbase gatekeeping of how CS3 has too much connection with previous games in the series that you shouldn't play it, ( even though reviewers who are less attached to it can find the game/story plenty fun - and made him wanna play CS1/2 ) - you end up often seeing the side of the argument that is perhaps too heated.
Don't worry, I won't let it deter me from wanting to play it at all! I'll maybe just go in with slightly lower expectations than I am for CS3. And I wouldn't dream of another game stopping me from playing this game... We only have the luxury of even having information on the quality of the next game due to the localizations being behind, but technically, I would be judging (to stay on Zero Escape series terms) Virtue's Last Reward by the quality of Zero Time Dilemma, and that just doesn't make sense.
That being said you seem very confident in CS4 being a year out for us... Did I miss any sort of announcement or tease or are you making an educated guess here?
I really need to catch up on this series (I've only played Sky FC & SC). Own Cold Steel 2 on PC thanks to a contest. I figure by the time I catch up, there's a really good chance that this will be on PC.
Educated guess. Falcom has hinted continued partnership with NISA, realistically a CS3 deal will have CS4 as part of the localisation deal. And CS3/4 are such big games that realistically it's not ideal, both from marketing and localisation standpoint to rush the product out. I'm thinking a year partly due to the fact that too long would also be annoying.
I love Cold Steel and I'm not really a fan of the three Sky games, though I have played them all. I didn't play the Crossbell ones but I think it'll be fine.
4 might be quite a bit more divisive because it has it's position as an ending of sorts so people don't need to pull their punches anymore because they can't judge without the full picture.
I don't think it's like the Zero Time Dilemma. It's maybe more like the age of ultron of kiseki? There is still good stuff you appreciate but it does not stick the landing on all story telling fronts except the most essential ones. The narrative pacing of the cold steel saga has been quite messy.
Thanks for the reply! I thought I missed something.
But it makes sense. If I read you correctly, you assume they might already be working on CS4 as we speak? Much like Xseed did with CS1/2? Again, makes sense. It would certainly make me happy to have confirmation though, after finding out that the wait for 4 will probably be excruciating thanks to a cliffhanger. Oh well. I am sure it will happen eventually, anything else would just be cruel.
To be honest, I put CS2 only below SC and CS1 above FC and Zero main series wise, though I might need to revisit CS1 to see I'd put it even higher since it's been a while (and for context, I did Sky trilogy, then Cold Steel 1 and 2 since I heard Crossbell's translation was bad, then I did Crossbell anyway since it wasn't going to make it in time for CS3 and the translation was just as bad as I feared, which might explain why I wasn't as invested in those characters as I was with the other games).
Nayuta (gameplay wise) > SC > CS2 > 3rd > Azure > CS1 > Zero > Nayuta (story wise) = FC
I would probably rank the series as 3rd>Ao>Zero>FC>SC>CS1>CS2. It feels wrong to rank CS1 so low because I actually really love that game lol. CS2 is really the only one I'm particularly critical of (but gosh if it doesn't have the best character designs for Class VII).
To note, there's less to think about with orbment setups in CS, no longer needing specific quartz combinations to make specific arts available. Though element-locked slots are still a thing, every quartz is quite direct in regards to what it does when you set it, so that would just leave considering what Master Quartz is best to use according to character/stats/bonuses.
Crafts/S-Crafts are also considerably less underpowered compared to FC, and CP builds more quickly.
Meanwhile, I have played ZTD, yet find it impossible to picture any given Trails game as being as awful as that turd (even with being alerted to lower my expectations for CS IV).
... Seriously though, ZTD sucks so much that it makes Zero Escape a significantly worse overall story retroactively.
Which is why Metacritic is worthless and I have no idea why anyone ever listens to it for anything.
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I'm hoping NISA manages to get CS 4 out by this time next year, since yeah the cliffhanger in 3 is really bad. I played 3 close to 4's release in Japanese so fortunately I didn't have to wait long.
I'm at the same spot as you. Kinda hoping by the time I get through the third Sky game that there will be some word of an official localization of the Crossbell games. Sounds like it could happen from what Falcom has said in the recent past, but will probably still be quite a wait.
He's definitely one of the most plot relevant characters in class VII, even in CS3 and CS4, so I think you're in good hands... For the most part.
Unlikely considering the first two games were published by a different company.
They always go overlooked too. Despite being a long-running franchise, they are overlooked games, and still considered a niche franchise. Its awesome its getting the attention it finally deserves.
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The consensus seems to be that this is like CS I but better, so there's a chance you'll like it more than II.
Can't wait to play this. As for CS4, I'm guessing its all to do with how Cold Steel 3 sells for NISA. Since this is a pretty niche audience, I'm guessing a lot of the sales action will be front loaded with preorders and day one pickups (maybe with stragglers grabbing it digitally later when its discounted on PSN. But I wager if its doing well for NISA standards, which shouldn't be too lofty, we'll see a pretty quick pickup of CS4. From there its just the time factor for them to actually localize it. Looks like they sold most if not all of the special edition on NISA's store, so that's a good sign.
They hardly ever give the Sky games decent sales on Steam, so I don't expect them to.
You mean the frequency or the price? I've always been under the impression the latter are decided by Falcom themselves.
that's gotta be what I was thinking of! I recall a lot of disappointment discussion I suppose when it released overseas.
Agreed with this, but CS3 does a good job actually giving the main idea of it from CS 2
CS 3 has it part of the plot as you said, plus you are collecting them again as well.