The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sequel announced

Thatguy

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He also asked how many playable characters, and got no answer. Why did he even accept any interviews?

So it seems playable Zelda and even coop or AI companion is still a possibility.
 
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C.Tsubasa

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The plan was that this game is a 2020 game, dont know if things changed since than, i didnt even know that its gonna be showen this E3.

What i heard was another game and that didnt happen, am not sure if that was bad source or that Nintendo changed their plan for the show.
 

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Don't get your hopes up about playable Zelda just from that interview; it's possible that there's merely plans for a short Zelda or co-op mechanic that won't last very long or something.
 

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The plan was that this game is a 2020 game, dont know if things changed since than, i didnt even know that its gonna be showen this E3.

What i heard was another game and that didnt happen, am not sure if that was bad source or that Nintendo changed their plan for the show.
Would be happy for this to be released in 2020. Hopefully the source knows enough. But as you said things can change
 

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Thanks for the info Zell. That is certainly intriguing and makes you wonder what other game was supposedly going to be there instead.

Really hoping this makes 2020 though!
 

Eolz

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Aonuma is dumb to do that because he's giving false hopes to both sides.
But then again, he'd get people mad anyway. Lose/lose situation, but I can't see Zelda being playable (or at most, more than some side segment like Ashley in RE4 or Medli in WW).
The plan was that this game is a 2020 game, dont know if things changed since than, i didnt even know that its gonna be showen this E3.

What i heard was another game and that didnt happen, am not sure if that was bad source or that Nintendo changed their plan for the show.
Interesting.
 

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The plan was that this game is a 2020 game, dont know if things changed since than, i didnt even know that its gonna be showen this E3.

What i heard was another game and that didnt happen, am not sure if that was bad source or that Nintendo changed their plan for the show.
Good to know. Even if it doesn't come out in 2020 (saying "in development" definitely gives them leeway to go for a 2021 release without it being a delay) it's a relief that it's probably well into production at this point.

Cause people are focusing on wrong things. Link as the only playable character is fine!
I think the two most interesting things to ask right now from what we've seen is "is this game set in Hyrule and if so how much of the game world will be different from BotW?" and "you can see Zelda cooperating with Link in the trailer; what is her role in the game, and is she playable?". Just because you'd be fine with just Link (I'd also be "fine" with that, whatever that even means) doesn't mean it's not an interesting question to ask.
 
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Cause people are focusing on wrong things. Link as the only playable character is fine!
Well, personally I don't want co-op in my Zelda games. Zelda is a singleplayer game first and foremost, but I would be cool with playing another character for a short time, for example in Wind Waker's Earth and Wind temple. The whole game centered around multiplayer or multiple characters like a MMORPG would ruin it for me.
I think the two most interesting things to ask right now from what we've seen is "is this game set in Hyrule and if so how much of the game world will be different from BotW?" and "you can see Zelda cooperating with Link in the trailer; what is her role in the game, and is she playable?". Just because you'd be fine with just Link (I'd also be "fine" with that, whatever that even means) doesn't mean it's not an interesting question to ask.
Yes, that's true.
 

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Well, personally I don't want co-op in my Zelda games. Zelda is a singleplayer game first and foremost, but I would be cool with playing another character for a short time, for example in Wind Waker's Earth and Wind temple. The whole game centered around multiplayer or multiple characters like a MMORPG would ruin it for me.
Me neither, though I'd love to see a spin-off where we can play as different Zelda characters with similar gameplay as the main games (so excluding Hyrule Warriors). Personally, I'd love to see a Triforce Heroes where you can choose to play as different Zelda characters.
 
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Haha that is true, he does kind of look stiff 🤣

anyway, sure I wouldn’t mind playing as Zelda for once but they been damn strict to never let that happen...
 

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For starters, if every Link is the spirit of the first, cursed by Demise, Hero reborn, how could could it be some Link and still be alive or whatever you call that state.

Secondly, the shadow on the wall looks a lot like Demise, being attacked by the arm that holds the body down. He has fangs and the same jewelry Ganondorf wears.

I think the real question is, whose arm is that?
Not sure if I understand you correctly. Do you mean how it's possible for two separate Links to exist simultaneously? Twilight Princess already did that, with the playable Link and the Hero's Shade as NPC.

As for your second point, that thing being Demise or more probably Ganondorf is almost a given, especially with the Gerudo symbolism and the red hair one would have a hard time arguing it isn't him. But my main point is that it's interesting that when Impa talks about the legends 10,000 years ago, it clearly shows someone with red hair when she talks about "a warrior wielding the soul of a hero", while at the same time clearly showing (the incarnation of) Zelda to have light coloured hair.

It's also interesting that she says A hero, instead of THE hero. Could be that I'm looking to much at semantics, but maybe that hero was never an incarnation of Link to begin with. Maaaybe it was even this Gerudo we see in this trailer, but he got corrupted or otherwise has a grudge? Maybe he got corrupted after dying and having been buried beneath the castle. Something like that would make for a much more interesting story than him just turning out to be Ganondorf. After all, Aunoma compared it with Majora's Mask, and that one didn't have Ganon or his other forms.
 

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People need to start asking him the right questions
Like, they will change the world ? Not that he will respond, but just to see if he gives a hint to us
 

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Not sure if I understand you correctly. Do you mean how it's possible for two separate Links to exist simultaneously? Twilight Princess already did that, with the playable Link and the Hero's Shade as NPC.
I don't agree with this. Link is the only one that sees the shade and he fights him in a weird place disconnected from the world. It can pretty much be interpreted as him fighting a part of himself/his soul.
 

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It’s probably Zelda’s dead mom reincarnated by Demise. Final battle is where Zelda saves Link.
 

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Nah there well aware by now how many people want a playable Zelda(or a female Link) and how tired people are of her being a damsel.

Showing her adventuring side by side with Link only to sideline her again would be a dick move.
We've had multiple threads in the past about this issue, and even multiple polls. It always come back to some 50/50 result, and Nintendo has said their opinion about that multiple times too.

Zelda being a damsel in distress (which she isn't in multiple games) is a completely different debate and has nothing to do with her being playable or not.
 

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We've had multiple threads in the past about this issue, and even multiple polls. It always come back to some 50/50 result, and Nintendo has said their opinion about that multiple times too.

Zelda being a damsel in distress (which she isn't in multiple games) is a completely different debate and has nothing to do with her being playable or not.
Anyone who'd have a problem with playable Zelda can get over themselves.
 
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We've had multiple threads in the past about this issue, and even multiple polls. It always come back to some 50/50 result, and Nintendo has said their opinion about that multiple times too.

Zelda being a damsel in distress (which she isn't in multiple games) is a completely different debate and has nothing to do with her being playable or not.
whats the consensus on Zelda in BOTW? i dont think she is necessarily a Damsel in distress
 

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Anyone who'd have a problem with playable Zelda can get over themselves.
Good argument.
I'm not sure you can blame game creators (or any kind for that matter) for wanting to stick with a single character as a main character (bolded because obviously playable segments don't count).
whats the consensus on Zelda in BOTW? i dont think she is necessarily a Damsel in distress
There's no real consensus.
There's the fact that she's single handedly holding Ganon down for 100 years, and the fact that you must still help her. She's not one imo, but she's not exactly without issues. Link is the hero obviously, but in nearly all games he wouldn't succeed without Zelda's help.
 

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The plan was that this game is a 2020 game, dont know if things changed since than, i didnt even know that its gonna be showen this E3.

What i heard was another game and that didnt happen, am not sure if that was bad source or that Nintendo changed their plan for the show.
Looks like few people knew about BOTW2

 

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Yes, except I can't find anything to back that up. I'm seeing a few notes that say the japanese version and other languages were even more final on the ending, but that's Reddit and who knows how accurate that is.
Legends of Localization uncovered it not that long after the game released. You should also note that the English-translation post-battle cutscenes contradict what's said when Ganon takes on his beast form, as this link points out - Zelda says "Ganon is gone for now".
 
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Good argument.
I'm not sure you can blame game creators (or any kind for that matter) for wanting to stick with a single character as a main character (bolded because obviously playable segments don't count).
I don't think they're talking about developers thinking about technical difficulties as much as they are gamers who hate the thought of a playable Zelda lol
 

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On the playable Zelda front - I'm not sure what Aonuma gains from being cryptic. He was cryptic back in 2014 when asked about the possibility of a female Link and I think he later regretted giving fans false hope (he mentioned this in a 2016 interview). He has also remarked in the past that they considered making Zelda playable, because at least part of the fanbase want it, but they weren't sure what role that would leave for Link. Maybe they've figured out a way to balance playing as two characters - they've experimented with that kind of idea in Wind Waker and Spirit Tracks, maintaining single-player gameplay but having other playable characters accompany Link (including the spirit of Zelda in the latter case).
 

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I don't think they're talking about developers thinking about technical difficulties as much as they are gamers who hate the thought of a playable Zelda lol
Developers can make choices based on something else than technical difficulties, yes.
That's why they're game creators, and not just code monkeys (I say that as a dev).
 

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Legends of Localization uncovered it not that long after the game released. You should also note that the English-translation post-battle cutscenes contradict what's said when Ganon takes on his beast form, as this link points out - Zelda says "Ganon is gone for now".
Thanks! Still doesn't make me feel any better about Link/Zelda not getting a true win after all of that, but good to know it is not contradictory.
 
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Developers can make choices based on something else than technical difficulties, yes.
That's why they're game creators, and not just code monkeys (I say that as a dev).
Nobody's disputing that, though lol. What that person said above--or at least what I think they said--is that if gamers or even devs think "ew I don't want to play as Zelda" rather than having an Actual Reason, they're ridiculous. Not "devs can and should make playable Zelda always and any excuse is stupid", y'know?
 

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From the Zelda subreddit:

Seems incorrect on multiple fronts.

The hand to me isn’t holding him there it’s grasping something on his chest, maybe trying to stop the releasing of the miasma or accelerating it.

Secondly you see link with the same colored arm, it plays into the theory it binds to him in some way.

It saving Link/Zelda doesn’t allow him to go free as you still see the hand on the chest which is in direct opposition to the shadow on the wall.

It seems whomever tagged these scenes is misinterpreting them.

P.S. A hand trying to keep something down would be laid flat on the chest not grasping the protrusion.
 

C_Ali88

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Nobody commenting on the new water effects in the cave.... Looks great!!

Also, knowing the trailer lacks chronological continuity on purpose would it be out of the realm of possibility to believe the elevation of Hyrule Castle happens first? Which prompts Link and Zelda to explore why?

Either way I’m suuuuper excited for this!!
 

Eolz

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Nobody's disputing that, though lol. What that person said above--or at least what I think they said--is that if gamers or even devs think "ew I don't want to play as Zelda" rather than having an Actual Reason, they're ridiculous. Not "devs can and should make playable Zelda always and any excuse is stupid", y'know?
Sure, but I'm not sure that the reason "I'd like her in" is an argument good enough in the same way.
 

C_Ali88

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Sure, but I'm not sure that the reason "I'd like her in" is an argument good enough in the same way.
Correct, the argument “I want her in” is poor. You aren’t the creative force behind this art. What you “want” is to continue to be entitled.

When did art become what I want versus what the crafter/creator is trying to evoke/reveal/explain?

This is the world we live in though.... The vanity of individualism.

Zelda isn’t a damsel in distress and for the last few games has made the conscious effort to sacrifice herself/freedom to battle Ganon.

Zelda may not be able to beat Ganon on her own but when has Link?

They are characters in a story how the creators wish to use her is their decision.

I personally love playing females in games (more specifically fighting games) yet I have no desire to play as Zelda.
 

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I think ”of the Wild” works for part of the subtitle, similar to “of the Tomb Raider” for this last trilogy.

So...

Legend of Zelda: Corruption of the Wild
Legend of Zelda: Dusk of the Wild
Or stealing from another poster:
Legend of Zelda: Death of the Wild
I keep saying it, Demise of the Wild. That Red haired mofo has taken over Ganondorf's malice and he is ffucking pissed.