Hmm, would be nice if it could sell that much. I'm a bit more pessimistic though. I'd say 4-5.
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The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening remake announced for Nintendo Switch
- Thread starter Mr. RPG
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i know opinions are subjective and all, but this looks like anything but a cash grab. even in that very short trailer you can see how much attention and care has been paid to meticulously remake and reimagine all aspects of the original, how much effort has gone into the beautiful intro and the art style of the game to give it that clay look, how cohesive and coherent and elegant and refined the game's style is, etc
maybe you don't know what cash grab means
are you serious?!
same. i would be perfectly happy with an exact 1:1 remake. i wouldn't be mad at an extra hidden dungeon (which will probably be the reworked color dungeon, perhaps more integrated to the game's story) and some secrets here and there, but i really hope they don't feel like they have to greatly expand the game or the map or anything like that.
Not that I think this was meant for 3Ds, but what game design ideas would be impossible on 3DS? Again, while I do believe this was always a Switch game, nothing in it strikes me as impossible on 3DS, in terms of game design.
Zelda games have a tendency to have long shelf lives. And the second hand market hardly devalues many Zelda titles. For Example, Link's Awakening DX for the Game Color still roughly goes for the original retail price on places like Amazon and Ebay.
Fighting against visual hallucinations induced by loneliness and lack of sleep/eating
The salt when the first sales figure will be released should be mega, I can taste it already.
Because you don't like the style?
Twilight Princess style lacked personality, this on the other hand is dripping it.
Two main things I've noticed in the trailer:
- There's no "case by case" grid map like in the original. You move seamlessly in the overworld like it's an open-world. This is a thing that wasn't even possible in ALBW as that game's world was also grid-based. That alone is a massive undertaking and such a central idea that would have been discarded immediately if it was a 3DS project.
- Even more than that, it seems like there's no transition either going from cities to the overworld like in the original. We see bits of the outside world while Link is in the village indicating that it's going to be fully open. Again, way out of the question on 3DS just by looking at how ALBW handled this.
Pfff. TP was flawed and that sucked, but it did not lack personality.
This is meme-Zelda and I want something genuine.
I know it's a meme and was funny long time ago but let it gooooo
I think the way ALBW handled transitions was a conscious design choice to evoke the original, not something out of hardware limitation. Surely the 3DS can handle 2D open world when even the DS can.
I'm actually pretty sure it was hardware limitation. No reason for ALBW to do so while L's A doesn't do it. If you're talking about the PH/ST games, they were noticeably worse looking than ALBW was on 3DS.
I LOVED A Link Between Worlds but the art direction outside of the concept art and illustrations was the weakest part of the game for me. This, however, looks like they finally nailed what they tried to do on the 3DS.
Can't be arsed to go through all 80 pages of bitching, but there's clearly a beef here. What's the situation?
Can't be arsed to go through all 80 pages of bitching, but there's clearly a beef here. What's the situation?
So as far as Zelda re-releases of the current decade go, the ranking would seem to be LA > OOT/MM > WW/TP in terms of "level of overhaul".
I wonder what could come next.
I wonder what could come next.
Pretty much what you would guess. People think the game should be sold for $20 because it looks like a cheap mobile game / is clearly a 3DS project repurposed for Switch / is a GameBoy game. These are all exact quotes.
Pokemon was a remimagining in terms of additional gameplay mechanics like the catching being without battles, Pokemon following you, your partner Pokemon being involved in certain scenarios, etc. Link's Awakening insofar is a 1:1 remake on the surface level, so perhaps there will be portions that are changed. Having finished the game, I can see some things like:
-Tal Tal Heights at the Wind Fish Egg is not a simple climb. I can see the map being reworked in this area.
-A new graveyard dungeon similar to the Color Dungeon that is part of the plot, to make more sense of that ghost haunting you.
-A new dungeon underneath the Rooster Weather Vane.
-As the reworked Tal tal Heights for the Egg, they can stretch the map in the east for the Eagle Tower portion and the rickety bridges. The east stretching out will allow for a larger desert, perhaps a new dungeon to get the key.
-Actually, I can see them giving all 5 keys a new mini dungeon instead of a small overworld challenge.
Of course they were noticeable worse looking, they were DS games. In fact, I would argue that relative to it's hardware they looked much more accomplished than ALBW. There's also GTA, which arguably has a lot more going on in terms of simulation. But even if the graphics had to look worse because of the open world, that would just mean that the graphics would have to look worse, not that it's impossible.
There's absolutely no way those transitions were due to a 3DS limitation. And I doubt such suggestion would be welcome back when the game was revealed and the 3DS was still relevant.
Why they are not doing that now? I dunno, perhaps they just want to do it this way now. Happens all the time.
Like the look of this and love Zelda, so I'm down.
I'm not down for a full-priced game for it though , so depending on that I may wait or miss it.
I'm not down for a full-priced game for it though , so depending on that I may wait or miss it.
Totally agree with the ALBW part. I didn't like the look of that game and that didn't stop it from being my favorite 2D Zelda. Great game.
I also don't like the artstyle in LA, but I'm an optimistic guy, I know I'll get used to it and looking at the bright side, at least it's not 3D Dot Game Heroes style. That would be an abomination. :D
This remake looks miles better than ALBW, that game looked ugly from day 1, in fact, all the 3DS Zeldas did for some reason.
Is weird that Nintendo didn't manage to exploit the 3DS hardware properly for one of their biggest franchises (Hell, even Samus Returns looked better than all the 3DS Zeldas).
Is weird that Nintendo didn't manage to exploit the 3DS hardware properly for one of their biggest franchises (Hell, even Samus Returns looked better than all the 3DS Zeldas).
I think the quite ugly albw artstyle was somehow a consequence of the 60fps decision.
Compromises had to be found and low poly models , low textures were among them...
It still is one of the best 3ds games though.
you can say it looks like a mobile game, and no one can logically disagree with you cuz mobile, like all other platforms, has many games with many different art styles and there's no reason something like this game can't be on mobile, so in that way no one can disproves it looks like a mobile game cuz "looks like a mobile game" is a pretty meaningless statement, like saying it looks like a ps4 game or an xbox game
BUT
saying it looks like your average mobile game is factually wrong. the average mobile game doesn't look like that, the average mobile game is a f2p puzzle or gacha game and has nowhere near the polish or budget or production values of this remake.
post-roms-shutdown-age? you mean people can no longer as easily pirate it? if you want the rom it's on 3DS virtual console i believe. concerns of preservation doesn't apply to a big game like link's awakening, it's not in any way, shape or form in danger of ever being lost.
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yeah i did, thanks for asking. but the stone had damaged my insides too much so they had to put in a temporary tube until it's all healed, and then i have to have another surgery for it to be taken out.
I just did and you won't regret it. Playing it now will freshen you up on the game, and when the remake comes out all the little differences it might have will become much more obvious and let you enjoy it more. Or at least that happens for me with remakes, I seriously can't wait till it comes out later this year.
Also, I'm pretty sure that they will use these assets or engine to remake the Oracle games as well. It just makes sense to reimplement it considering how similar they looked.
(Mind you, I would prefer not since when I think of the Oracle games, I think more of the more human-looking characters).
Why would anyone want that?
If anything, I think those games need another remake. The 3DS ones barely did them justice.
(Mind you, I would prefer not since when I think of the Oracle games, I think more of the more human-looking characters).
Why would anyone want that?
If anything, I think those games need another remake. The 3DS ones barely did them justice.
Fuuuck man. That's some shit I don't wish on anyone. (Well Trump maybe, lol).
Get well soon.
this take is so bad it hurts
thanks. it's not super serious. it'll be over soon, thankfully.
If Labo VR happens and you can use it to be the overhead camera in this I will absolutely loose my mind.
Christ this thread...gotta unfollow this shit before I hurt myself anymore
Wait a sec. A shit ton of ppl are okay with supporting mtx and p2w. Is that okay now? Why is everyone so defensive? The pricing is not great even if alot of ppl are paying the asked price.
Imagine remake 2 not having cutting edge graphics. Journalists and fans would kill Capcom for that. Why does Nintendo get a pass is beyond anything.
By what account ? How do you determine that ? There's no pass here, the game's worth 60$ and will be sold as much.
Yeah,I think if they do remake the oracle games, they will use the same engine but with bigger buildings and more proportionate models for the characters. No way you do Olrox or Veran in this miniture figure style.
just because you think the remake is not worth $60, doesn't mean other people are wrong or being defensive when in their opinion it does. imo the price is great, i would gladly pay for it day 1. nintendo is not getting a pass here, as nothing wrong, anti-consumer or harmful is being done.
and bringing up mtx and p2w is complete nonsense here.
thanks :)
Mmm.
And within the constraints of the switch and 60fps, how do you know they could have done much more?
Nintendo are known to tweak the graphics at the end of development, and the final game often looks better than the first reveal.
And within the constraints of the switch and 60fps, how do you know they could have done much more?
while i don't agree with your evaluation,if it's 60 dollar it would definitely be too expensive
Botw looking alot better and having an advanced physic system is one reason. Assets are kinda basic compared to other big switch titles.
I don't know they have the liwrst
Something like rdr 2 and gow should be at 100 bucks at least if this remake is worth 60 bucks. Iam expecting better production values for a fullprice game but it's just my opinion tho.
well, there was the RE2 remakre recently, there are games like Oceanhorn, etc. going by this, this doesn't looks like a full price title/ambitious game at all. going by them this remake looks terrible. esp since playtime wasn't that long in LA also. LA is one of the all time greats... this cheap shit is just unworthy. and yeah, the intro looks incredible and probably swallowed all the budget, because then they went with c-tier graphics/art.
It's a 2d top down zelda, not a giant open world third person action game. Wtf are you talking about?
Industry's standard is 60 bucks. If we were to take RDR2's production values as the standard then it'd be impossible to sustain this industry if every other game must be half the price at the very minimum. This game being worth 60$ doesn't mean it's worth as much as your other more liked game, but that it's worth his own price. That's it.
Your avatar is Bloodborne. If RDR2 was industry standard, then Bloodborne wouldn't be worth half that 60$ price. See how ridiculous it is ?
too expensive by what measure? by the measure of what value you put on the game.
if i go with my own personal measures, 80% of games won't be worth the asking price.
for whatever reason, nintendo has selected the $60 price as the price of all of their major first party switch games (except a few exceptions), and it doesn't really bother people looking at the crazy sales of switch games. this is a major game in switch's line up both from the perspective of nintendo, and from the perspective of nintendo fans, so it'll be $60 as well.
if games like
- nsmbudx with minimal additions and just a resolution bump from 720p to 1080p
- tropical freeze which went from $50 dollar on wii u to 60 on switch, again with minimal aditions
- kirby star allies which is a super short and content light game
- etc
can be 60 dollars and the market responds positively to them, what reason does nintendo have to price this from the ground up, fully brand new remake at anything less than that?
this cheap shit looks beyond amazing to me. you're obviously entitled to your opinion but you don't have to wait long to be proven that your opinion isn't shared by the general video game audience. this will do well both critically and commercially.