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The Legend of Zelda (NES) - Living the life of luxury! added to NES Switch Online game
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AoL's main problem is that dying three times throws you back at the temple at the beginning. It's a huge pain in the ass to get back to wherever you were after that. So yeah, save states (or just an infinite lives hack) would make it far, far easier and more fun.
Nintendo doing more ROM hacks, eh?
All they really needed to do was give folks an overworld map button, with a map that has a lot of good locations marked. If they really wanted to go further, they'd edit Link's movement to make sword combat easier, and along with turning while running.
Rest of the game is fine and didn't changing.
But I guess this is from the makers of this:
I mean, people can play what they want, but I think if a creator is offering a worse option, you're basically taking a good experience away from folks who don't know any better.
They are better ways to fix your game design or accommodate players than just padding stats of a player to overcome challenges easier. It just seems a little low effort and thoughtless.
All they really needed to do was give folks an overworld map button, with a map that has a lot of good locations marked. If they really wanted to go further, they'd edit Link's movement to make sword combat easier, and along with turning while running.
Rest of the game is fine and didn't changing.
But I guess this is from the makers of this:
I mean, people can play what they want, but I think if a creator is offering a worse option, you're basically taking a good experience away from folks who don't know any better.
They are better ways to fix your game design or accommodate players than just padding stats of a player to overcome challenges easier. It just seems a little low effort and thoughtless.
Oh, just a save state, eh? So not a evolution of nes remix...
To be honest, I would prefer they did something like a color swap on the entrance of the dungeons. Man, without a guide it's impossible to find all that, unless you burn every bush, bomb every wall. That's is the main struggle in that game, that's for sure.
To be honest, I would prefer they did something like a color swap on the entrance of the dungeons. Man, without a guide it's impossible to find all that, unless you burn every bush, bomb every wall. That's is the main struggle in that game, that's for sure.
Ha, if that was the case for SMB3 I already have the SP version after beating the game and save stating afterwards!
I'd love a Metroid one that started you with full health (or at least more than 30...) after death, though again the scope of these SP editions is in question given the current Zelda one.
Having to dick around for a few minutes just to refill health is a design flaw.
If it wasn't, Nintendo wouldn't have added recharge stations in subsequent Metroid games.
Cool idea. I'm all for making games more accessible.
Zelda 1 and Spirit Tracks are the only two mainline Zeldas I haven't finished (hated the latter). Maybe I'll give Zelda a go again with this mode just to see it through.
Zelda 1 and Spirit Tracks are the only two mainline Zeldas I haven't finished (hated the latter). Maybe I'll give Zelda a go again with this mode just to see it through.
What you are describing would take a significant amount of work while changing some values to give players more items/money is a rather easy thing to do.
If this version of Zelda is anything to go by, I wouldn't expect anything fancy from the other SP releases.
It's not like Zelda 1 is hard. And if you need the power bracletmof White sword it's super easy to look up online. All kinds of maps that show where all the hidden items are.
Half the fun is traveling across Hyrule and finding an item.
Someone earlier in the thread mentioned "today's difficulty standards". Wow, are today's games that in need of hand holding that that can't put "Zelda 1 Map" in google image search.
Half the fun is traveling across Hyrule and finding an item.
Someone earlier in the thread mentioned "today's difficulty standards". Wow, are today's games that in need of hand holding that that can't put "Zelda 1 Map" in google image search.
It's a good update for those who may not have played the original Zelda before, and this helps them get that understanding. And the normal version is there for those who want the original (as close as possible) experience.
I'd be interested in knowing what SP will mean for the likes of Dr Mario.
I'd be interested in knowing what SP will mean for the likes of Dr Mario.
Neat concept in theory, but how it's executed for LoZ just ruins the game. It gives you so much stuff right off the bat and pretty much takes the exploration aspect right out.
I played blind my first time and can't tell you how exciting it was to find something by bombing walls and bumping into statues. Yeah, I did spend a chunk of time doing so and eventually started a new play through with a guide.
But we already have save states. That should be enough tbh.
Hope we get some interesting ROM hacks but I've a feeling Nintendo will only touch certain games in certain ways.
Btw have they fixed the wonky controls in SMB/SMB3 yet?
I played blind my first time and can't tell you how exciting it was to find something by bombing walls and bumping into statues. Yeah, I did spend a chunk of time doing so and eventually started a new play through with a guide.
But we already have save states. That should be enough tbh.
Hope we get some interesting ROM hacks but I've a feeling Nintendo will only touch certain games in certain ways.
Btw have they fixed the wonky controls in SMB/SMB3 yet?
I mean, people have had 30+ years to take a crack at the original Zelda by now, it's been released on everything, sometimes multiple times. If adding a special mode that lets players blast through it a little more easily means that people who'd be discouraged at its more awful parts are inclined to keep going, who are we to say it's not a valid way to have fun? Original mode will continue to exist in perpetuity.
Heck, I think it's even a sweetener for the people like you and me who have already played it before, sometimes a bunch of times, and wouldn't mind flying through again but don't really feel like droppin 20 hours on it and just wanna get down to business.
Yeah I can't help but feel bad for newcomers not experiencing the game the traditional way; starting with nothing and each item feels really important when you get it. Get an old guide out and print a real paper map and go fully old school.
Use this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5LYoi7JJjZSdG55azE0cWNiVTg/view
I can't tell if this is /s or not, so I guess I should nod in approval.
To be honest I wished for a mode like this when I started. It was rough. BUT I do think the best way to go about this is Nintendo-curated guides or hints or something of the sort rather than giving us the stuff right away :P
I'm looking forward to a Ninja Gaiden SP mode though. That game is sadistic!
This qualifies as neat. It's certainly better than what I'd feared previously (PAL versions in 50hz). It would be cool to see them do more stuff along the lines of a NES Remix kinda deal, but that's been done already and I guess they can have another swing at that another day.
Going fully into something like randomisers, sprite swaps, new levels or whatever would be cool and generally within the reach of what's publicly available within the rom hacking scene.
I don't think that's going to happen any time soon but it would be cool to see Nintendo take ideas from the speedrunning and hacking communities since that seemed to feed Mario Maker's popularity and longevity in such a big way.
Going fully into something like randomisers, sprite swaps, new levels or whatever would be cool and generally within the reach of what's publicly available within the rom hacking scene.
I don't think that's going to happen any time soon but it would be cool to see Nintendo take ideas from the speedrunning and hacking communities since that seemed to feed Mario Maker's popularity and longevity in such a big way.
It's a cool idea, but the way it's implemented is pretty lame. Hopefully future SP releases are more interesting.
I'd like to know how people are playing this game on the Switch in the first place. The controls so clearly feel like they demand a great d-pad, so the analog stick feels all wrong, and the d-pad on the Pro controller registers incorrect inputs way more often than is acceptable.
Yes, please. Then I might finally be able to beat that fucking game. It's been over 30 years and I still can't get much past the double Abobos in the forest.
The second quest is just the second quest you normally would get right? You could just name your character zelda and you got the new over world.
There is one dungeon that requires a bomb and one that requires a bush. The bush is already obviously telegraphed and the bomb has an in game clue. They are the last two dungeons.
Wow. Of all the things they could've done... They did this? Completely pointless and disappointing.
I'm sure there is someone out there who is happy but such a weird choice
I'm sure there is someone out there who is happy but such a weird choice
"Obviously"
There are dozen and dozens of isolated bushes in the game, and I will not go around every single one expecting to find a goddamm dungeon below one of them. And the bomb one it's not that easy to find when holders keep falling at you.
Outside of the first two, all the other dugeons are really obtuse to find. No wonder they ditch the concept going forward in the series.
Not gonna lie, post like these make me feel proud to have beaten Adventure of Link back in the 80s, without any help or anything. It's literally the first time I actually enjoyed the challenge of a game.
The old man says secret is in the tree at the dead end, and it's a tree obviously obstructing a narrow path. I imagine most players tried burning it just to clear the way, it's pretty hard to miss.
Oh, I actually did beat it legit as a kid, but nowadays it's going to be hard to convince anyone to put in the time needed for that.
Yup. I tried using bombs and burning it simply because it was so conspicuously on the way. Then I found the hint way after the fact and went ohhhhhhhhh