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The Mansion Mafia - Hold on tightly to your secrets

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Brazil

Brazil

The Dude of Prophecy
Moderator
Oct 24, 2017
7,047
São Paulo, Brazil
==== DAY 5 VOTES ====
Day Start

Zippedpinhead (3 votes)
turmoil7 - #5,217
Kitsunelaine - #5,297
Muffin - #5,348

Muffin (2 votes)
saenima - #5,317
Stuart444 - #5,329

saenima (1 votes)
Kalor - #5,311

Kalor (0 votes)
BronsonLee - #5,237 #5,312

Not voting: *Splinter, Zippedpinhead, BronsonLee, Girlofgotham, WhySoDevious

Post Counts:
Kitsunelaine: 35 BronsonLee: 32 saenima: 32 Muffin: 23 Girlofgotham: 18 turmoil7: 16 Stuart444: 16 Kalor: 14 *Splinter: 12 Zippedpinhead: 11 WhySoDevious: 5 StanleyPalmtree: 1

Current Countdown:



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Oct 25, 2017
2,652
three voices rooms remain. And honestly I believe that if we go green it will block orange and vice versus. In fact maybe all of these rooms will block both of the other voice rooms.

So with that being said I’m going orange. I think these have to deal with side chats. And since I’m not in one I think that pacifying or muddling them is preferred to protecting them. Especially with scum likely having the last side chat.

move: orange room
 
Oct 25, 2017
8,055
You're gonna gave to explain that 'thought experiment' again Zippedpinhead. I have no idea what you're getting at with those votes on you being suspicious or otherwise. I can imagine most people who didn't vote for you on day 1 did it for the same reason as i. Because the thing you were doing was just too dumb and on the nose to be scum. Maybe we were wrong tho.
 

BronsonLee

Assistant (to the) Regional Administrator
Moderator
Oct 24, 2017
12,797
Loathe as I am to admit it this feels like it's between Zipped and Muffin unless Sae makes a tactical error
 
Oct 25, 2017
8,055
Also Sae because he's in hiding mode now
Having to do stuff in real life is not being in hiding mode.

I thought that hecht vs saenima was TvT so I wanted them to stop fighting and look at other people, Hecht did it but saenima wasn't receptive to the idea, maybe it was an attempt at protecting wee? Same reasoning could go for stu too
I'm glad i got Hecht's scent and never let go. Otherwise the game might be over by now. He had most people in his pocket.
 

BronsonLee

Assistant (to the) Regional Administrator
Moderator
Oct 24, 2017
12,797
Yeah I felt bad after saying that tbh because it was like 8 in the damn morning

I should just edit my posts I WOULD NEVER BE CAUGHT I'M THE ONLY STAFF MEMBER LEFT
 
Oct 25, 2017
8,055
Regarding the rooms.

If we assume those voices are chat rooms, wouldn't the best option be Green? It would probably shutdown scum chat for the day. What could muddling a chat mean? Some sort of writing restriction on chat maybe, does that make sense to anyone? Or protect it?

I don't think it's chat though.

It's either roles or votes i think. Probably roles. Because there were other rooms already affecting votes, might be too many if three more were present. Which would mean that at this point Green might also be the best option? What active town roles do we have left? Cop will be dead tonight probably. Vig says he's out of shots. If anything this would block scum roles.

Thoughts?
 
Oct 25, 2017
8,055
Anyway, for disclosure. I'll be here for the most part but will have some minor stuff to do later. Should be back just before EOD. Like 30 minutes before or so.
 
Oct 26, 2017
6,401
Seeing a bunch of votes here that are just following the two big lynches. At least put a bit effort into killing me off

Like Devious, you've mentioned me twice in this entire thread, and both of those posts are today.

Saenima at least mentioned me a bit more, but the only reasoning I can find is "scum is coasting" while also mentioning people like Stan who turned out town.

At least Splinter tried to theorize about something.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,652
and y'all wonder why my top two scum are Kits and WSD?

I am such a weak lynch today. I messed around day 1 to try and see who would vote for me, I was on lux like white on Rice day 1 and day 2, Practically instant on Weemadarthur day 4, I had town read Saucykaz day 2 but hey I'm human. I knew that Hecht wasn't playing a full town game day 3.

Lynching me is lazy today, and just eliminates a vanilla town.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,652
Wonder when someone would role claim lol.

If your lynch is lazy then why not point to a non-lazy lynch?
I am pro turbo, and honestly if I had been in Bronsonlee's position day 3 I might have done the same thing BUT there is one inconsistency and Kits pointed it out yesterday...

Bronsonlee, turbos day 3, but doesn't day 4. In fact he unvoted to avoid the turbo and then didn't come back. Why do that? With a dual cop claim day and weemadarthur not having another investigation result on day 4 start I feel it was a forgone conclusion that of the two she was being lynched. She was very nice about it, but the unvote sounded off, especially with how pro turbo he was the day before.

In addition, Day 2, on Kaz twice (though never on lux despite being the final vote on Lux the previous day). Almost like someone who wanted town cred for later flips "hey look, I was on these people back before we knew they were scum" but when push came to shove he ended up on FEP with

Vote: flatearthpandas
I don't do ties and see very little reason to waste a lynch on someone who's already gonna die
Alone they look inocuous, but taken together with the lack of the lux vote and then the no turbo on scum day 4. It makes sense to me that Bronsonlee wanted to protect scum day 4 after toying with town looks day 1 and 2.

He was also false cleared by Weemadarthur who was confirmed scum but not *splinter, who either bussed a fellow teammate hard with weemadarthur or is our actual cop.

I’m town team-cop.
*SNIP*
I copped bronson N1 and got “same team” which is why i reversed my read. I crumbed this one with the post about him being the most sus noob.
So in conclusion I think Bronsonlee is scum, based on my day 1 votes on me analysis, and this pattern of voting for scum when its easy, but not now that its hard.

Vote: Bronsonlee
 
Oct 31, 2017
1,881
This is all you've said about me so far Devious

I'm seriously impressed
I mentioned you here, too.. https://www.resetera.com/threads/th...-to-your-secrets.98776/page-108#post-18257917

These are the ones I've accepted as town:
*Splinter
turmoil7
Girlofgotham
Kalor
WhySoDevious

I'm undecided about (from least to most):
BronsonLee (that Kalor vote... wth?)
Stuart444
Zippedpinhead

My scum reads (in order from least to most):
Muffin
Kitsunelaine
Saenima

At this point it's just a bit of elimination. You've been scum-reading me... I know I'm town... so I feel like you're trying to divert attention from yourself and trying to put it on me.
 
Oct 26, 2017
6,401
so I feel like you're trying to divert attention from yourself and trying to put it on me.
Nah, if somebody votes me with such a staggering amount of laziness I'm gonna call that out.

Being mislynched is fine, we can afford as much I think with how many confirmed people we have. But I'm gonna make sure that I mention things that stand out to me leading up to the mislynch at least :)
 

BronsonLee

Assistant (to the) Regional Administrator
Moderator
Oct 24, 2017
12,797
I am pro turbo, and honestly if I had been in Bronsonlee's position day 3 I might have done the same thing BUT there is one inconsistency and Kits pointed it out yesterday...

Bronsonlee, turbos day 3, but doesn't day 4. In fact he unvoted to avoid the turbo and then didn't come back. Why do that? With a dual cop claim day and weemadarthur not having another investigation result on day 4 start I feel it was a forgone conclusion that of the two she was being lynched. She was very nice about it, but the unvote sounded off, especially with how pro turbo he was the day before.

In addition, Day 2, on Kaz twice (though never on lux despite being the final vote on Lux the previous day). Almost like someone who wanted town cred for later flips "hey look, I was on these people back before we knew they were scum" but when push came to shove he ended up on FEP with




Alone they look inocuous, but taken together with the lack of the lux vote and then the no turbo on scum day 4. It makes sense to me that Bronsonlee wanted to protect scum day 4 after toying with town looks day 1 and 2.

He was also false cleared by Weemadarthur who was confirmed scum but not *splinter, who either bussed a fellow teammate hard with weemadarthur or is our actual cop.



So in conclusion I think Bronsonlee is scum, based on my day 1 votes on me analysis, and this pattern of voting for scum when its easy, but not now that its hard.

Vote: Bronsonlee
Didn't turbo Day 4 because I was wrong and we turboed a town player, and feared the same for weem. I was also only gone for like 2 hours.

Was on Kaz twice because Lux got shot with like 4 hours left, and then Kaz unvoted and didn't come back. Ended up on FEP but was very clearly set up to put Kaz out if he came back.

I'll wait things out a little more but I sense nonsense here.
 

BronsonLee

Assistant (to the) Regional Administrator
Moderator
Oct 24, 2017
12,797
Also I'm calling bullshit on people who are trying to bring up early votes that are unvoted with the quickness
 

BronsonLee

Assistant (to the) Regional Administrator
Moderator
Oct 24, 2017
12,797
triple post but fuck it I don't care

it's pretty clear to me now that zipped realizes he might be screwed so he's gonna shoot his shot now and let jesus take the wheel, he did the same thing D1 and got out, coasted the others, but sees he's back on the firing line now
 
Oct 31, 2017
1,881
Also I'm calling bullshit on people who are trying to bring up early votes that are unvoted with the quickness
If you call 17 hours quick.

You're probably town, man... it's just that eeeeeehhh moment. I can't be as sure as I was the day before.

Unless something comes up in the following days, right now I don't see myself voting for you.
 

BronsonLee

Assistant (to the) Regional Administrator
Moderator
Oct 24, 2017
12,797
If you call 17 hours quick.

You're probably town, man... it's just that eeeeeehhh moment. I can't be as sure as I was the day before.

Unless something comes up in the following days, right now I don't see myself voting for you.
I wanted Kalor to put a vote down that I liked
He put a vote down that I liked
Unvote within like 10 mins or some such IIRC
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,652
triple post but fuck it I don't care

it's pretty clear to me now that zipped realizes he might be screwed so he's gonna shoot his shot now and let jesus take the wheel, he did the same thing D1 and got out, coasted the others, but sees he's back on the firing line now
Zipped is in the lab and is vanilla townie.

Have you even thought about who your next shots are? Turmoil has alternated on who o look for when I flip town. I have alternates if you flipped town (specifically kits and then WSD).

I have been on the firing line days 1, 2 and today. But my best most helpful thing I can do is outline who I have a case for and why. That way when/if I get lynched and someone says “oh he was town”. They can look and see where my mind was.
 

Kalor

Resettlement Advisor
Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,675
I've been thinking about Devious and I can't understand why this game needs two sleepwalkers, especially two with no differences. From what we know, Godfather was the only role that would notice them and in that case, two sleepwalkers would be excessive. Maybe scum have a role that's able to see them as well but that's pointless because that knowledge doesn't tell scum anything. The issue which makes me slightly weary of voting for Devious is that the names are linked together. If I remember correctly, Devious said their name first so I don't think they made one up to match Turmoil
 

Kalor

Resettlement Advisor
Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,675
In fact

Vote: WhySoDevious

Two sleepwalkers that are exactly the same makes no sense with the rest of the roles that we know. I can't imagine there's another town aligned role that sees movement/people visited at night. I'm able to believe that Devious/rest of the scum team made up a name that lined up with the night and it happened to match Turmoils in a happy coincidence.
 
Oct 31, 2017
1,881
Muffin You're right, man... it is a lazy vote and you have me second-guessing myself now... I was reading the thread late Saturday when you were most active posting... and I had an impression... but re-reading it now, I'm not sure what I saw anymore.

Being wishy-washy is not a good look, I know. If you're scum, then sucks on me for changing my vote.

VOTE: Zippedpinhead
 
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Brazil

Brazil

The Dude of Prophecy
Moderator
Oct 24, 2017
7,047
São Paulo, Brazil
==== DAY 5 VOTES ====
Day Start

Zippedpinhead (4 votes)
turmoil7 - #5,217
Kitsunelaine - #5,297
Muffin - #5,348
Kalor - #5,419 #5,438
WhySoDevious - #5,439

Muffin (3 votes)
saenima - #5,317
Stuart444 - #5,329
*Splinter - #5,405
WhySoDevious - #5,417 #5,439

WhySoDevious (1 votes)
Kalor - #5,438

BronsonLee (1 votes)
Zippedpinhead - #5,426

Kalor (0 votes)
BronsonLee - #5,237 #5,312

saenima (0 votes)
Kalor - #5,311 #5,419

Not voting: BronsonLee, Girlofgotham

Post Counts:
BronsonLee: 40 saenima: 38 Kitsunelaine: 35 Muffin: 27 Girlofgotham: 18 Kalor: 18 Stuart444: 17 turmoil7: 16 Zippedpinhead: 15 *Splinter: 14 WhySoDevious: 11 StanleyPalmtree: 1

Current Countdown:



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Oct 31, 2017
1,881
In fact

Vote: WhySoDevious

Two sleepwalkers that are exactly the same makes no sense with the rest of the roles that we know. I can't imagine there's another town aligned role that sees movement/people visited at night. I'm able to believe that Devious/rest of the scum team made up a name that lined up with the night and it happened to match Turmoils in a happy coincidence.
Do I still win if town wins but I'm dead?

If my town flip will help you find the remaining scum, then that's okay. There are only a couple of people pushing for my lynching.

I know you're town, so I doubt you'll get any flak for a mis-lynch, but pay attention who joins the train.
 

Kalor

Resettlement Advisor
Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,675
Do I still win if town wins but I'm dead?

If my town flip will help you find the remaining scum, then that's okay. There are only a couple of people pushing for my lynching.

I know you're town, so I doubt you'll get any flak for a mis-lynch, but pay attention who joins the train.
If you're actually town, you would still win.
 
Oct 25, 2017
746
Vote: muffin

Reasons:

Day 1 - primarily room chat and that run-in with Godfather which I was involved in (which I think a bunch of people then became involved in). Now knowing that Godfather was town, looks a bit like stoking up trouble but Godfather was super argumentative so probably NAI.

Day 1 votes - voted for Kalor then Godfather - stayed off of any of the front-runners. Wee voted for Muffin that day (also staying off of the trains).

Day 2 - seriously had it in for Godfather. Also had a mild stooshy with Kits after sassing the Grizzly voters. Lots of room talk. Godfather asked for more reads, Muffin claimed to have already given them although all I can find before that is the getting annoyed at the Grizzly votes (particularly fep and the mild run-in with Kits). Run-in with Hecht and I because we each suggested looking at not just the Grizzly voters but the ones who weren't on Grizzly/Lux (this list included Muffin)

Day 2 votes - voted Godfather then fep.

Day 3 - the reads list for Group A was super vague - mostly nulls. Scum leans were Devious and Kits.

Day 3 votes - voted Kits.

Starting to get confused with days so just some general comments, I'm assuming most of this is Day 4 - has some weird thinking connecting Kits and Dubs. We now know Dubs was our doc so curious to see where this thinking will go. Decided that scum were still Kits, Devious and Kalor. Interested to see where this sits now. Clearly doesn't believe Devious' sleepwalker claim and Kalor has since claimed vig. Would like to know their scum team now.

Day 4 - no vote but it was a turbo day.

And so ends my skim read of muffin.

Gotta say, it's feeling a little scummy. All votes have been on town and they generally stay away from the vote front-runners. Also, they are one of the lowest posters - only posting above Zipped and Devious. Haven't really stuck their neck out at all.

Seems to be heavily pushing Kits (did the same with Godfather and they turned out town, granted they were fairly provocative). It's giving me a mild headache as I have been leaning scum on Kits. Either this animosity is orchestrated or one of them is town.