It would depend on how they were protected. Not a risk that's worth taking as scum so early, and when there's been no scum deaths yet.
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The Mansion Mafia - Hold on tightly to your secrets
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It would depend on how they were protected. Not a risk that's worth taking as scum so early, and when there's been no scum deaths yet.
The idea being that this claim couldn't really be countered and Hecht could just coast on a possible town lean. But seeing as things don't quite work the way i was thinking heh
I've been under the gun this whole game. People just don't like me this game. Let them vote for me, let scum put themselves on a list, then just knock them out.
Got a train on me and suddenly everything about me reeks of scum.
It wasn't a soft claim. I was just saying that I don't simply believe him because "it makes more sense than scum not shooting". I needed people to know I wasn't that thick.
Here's my reasoning. Most PRs don't know when they successfully stop something. Doctors, Roleblockers, and Jailers don't generally know that they have protected or blocked something during the night. Scum most likely thinks that happened since the chance of one of those roles existing is pretty high, rather them shooting the 1 player that may have some self-protection.
However, they did that, so I know for a fact that I was the one that was targeted. I figured that could be useful information, and why I'm looking closely at people that currently scum-read me.
I was in Berserk with you guys then Console Wars which I think might have been a year ago or so? I'm honestly ignorant to whether or not that phrase has significance here.
Ok but now that scum knows you're protected they'll shoot somewhere else. If you hadn't claimed they might try you again to no effect. Your claim makes scum job easier.
If you whiff once on a scum kill you usually don't try again immediately IIRC
spread it out~
True, but that happens with any claim. If I claimed, say, Vigilante, scum could either take the chance and shoot me, but I might be protected that night because I claimed. They run the risk that I would be able to shoot that night
Any fire related language in Mafia can sometimes be tied with an Arsonist, who would be a role that sets people on fire. Maybe you're being truthful and it's a coincidence but having the weird soft claim followed by the fire language sticks out to me. Not that I think it's likely because no-one would be hinting at being an arsonist since they're usually neutral.
target someone else -> target someone different than who they targeted last night, i mean
Well I know it's not worth much but I'm not an arsonist. I'll choose my wording more carefully. I should honestly probably just read a list of terms before I join another game.
Err, no. There's no way you'd get a counterclaim because the doctor or whoever wouldn't know for sure they stopped the kill.
...you even point this out yourself a few posts later!
Well, yes, they wouldn't have definitive proof, but I know people have done that in the past - "Hey we had a no kill night! my protection must have stopped it!" etc.
I totally haven't done that before >_>
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If the role blocker targeted you last night and there was no kill, they should absolutely keep targeting you.
read my follow up
I mean yes, if someone wants to roleblock me, by all means. I didn't attempt a kill last night
Don't worry, that's an odd concern from Kalor
Noone claimed they were doused and noone is dead. We have even less reason than usual to worry about arsonists.
Didn't someone get a drink delivered to them? Or was that another confusing post that wasn't actually a claim?
I don't actually believe that we have an arsonist moving about. It just stuck out.
Fat4All was getting hammered and wee made a joke about my role in Gafia 2 where I handed out drinks
Well, that's a plausible at least. Damn. After D1, I was sure either Splints or you might be scum, and now one has a double vote and the other can explain the no kill night without getting counterclaimed so far.
Sure. I just don't see what's to gain here from claiming. You weren't under any pressure or risk. Nothing of note was happening. I don't want to tunnel on this so i'll drop it for now but i just don't see any benefit from a town's perspective here.
Probably, but you and Hecht both were pretty much the main people getting the Grizzly lynch started, so I had you in the back of my mind. You didnt have any weird vote movement at Day End like Hecht did so he was the one I focused on there anyway.
I am VERY surprised you aren't just going in on me. I messed up in my phrasing and I thought I was done for. Thank you for listening to me.
I had information, I know it carries risk, and we are severely lacking in information due to a no-death night. I don't feel like you have to wait until you're under pressure to claim if you think it can at least be a little beneficial.