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The Mansion Mafia - Hold on tightly to your secrets

B-Dubs

Oh well, what the hell
Administrator
Oct 25, 2017
11,951
Right okay so we're down 2 today. This is shit.

Scum must know the rooms. That's too contrived to be an accident.
If we assume voices are votes then it's obvious what the dark room does. I think assuming they know what each room does is dangerous, it gives scum more power in our minds than they already have.
 

Hecht

These are my salad days
Administrator
Oct 24, 2017
4,260
Seriously though, what's the chance with hitting a mason and wiping out both partners? This is bloody insane.

They can't have known thus right?
They probably didn't know, but Kopite was relatively middle-of-the-road yesterday, so a good place to use a scum PR, and their vote ended up on GF yesterday. Lots of WIFOM there, but as for the lovers/masons thing I'm sure it was dumb luck.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,382
I guess I appreciate you telling us this because it lowers the chance of you being town, imo, since a straight-double voting town seems fine (rather than a double-voting scum), but now I can't really be as sure of your alignment. But I guess I lean town since you told us?
Maybe that's what I want you to think.
 
Nov 29, 2018
96
I'm looking at the mason thread and another person Kopite scum read was Stuart, not sure if he mentioned this in the thread though (so that would have to be checked).

Something I find curious (I even joked about it in my pretyped post) is that Stuart wasn't targeted by either the vote removal or the night kill, with most of the players giving the train on him the side-eye and Grizzly viewing him as a town-lead, I'd of thought he'd be at least one of the targets.
 

turmoil7

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,807
Right okay so we're down 2 today. This is shit.

Scum must know the rooms. That's too contrived to be an accident.
This is too OP to be intentional imo

If
-scum know the rooms(they know dark room kill who doesn't vote) and
-they have some kind of vote thief

This is functionally kinds of an extra kill for them, one that they can target to any player at will, why at kopite? Why not just use a bomb or double night kill(wolf cub?) instead of making it so conditional if you want an extra scum kill as a designer
 

BronsonLee

Assistant (to the) Regional Administrator
Moderator
Oct 24, 2017
12,739
That reads like a luckbox and they got a vote thief/got lucky with the room conditions

So we're down 3 town before N2 even hits

I think we need to be dialed in on who we're voting for right now because the last minute shit on D1 was some scum nonsense
 

Hecht

These are my salad days
Administrator
Oct 24, 2017
4,260
This is too OP to be intentional imo

If
-scum know the rooms(they know dark room kill who doesn't vote) and
-they have some kind of vote thief

This is functionally kinds of an extra kill for them, one that they can target to any player at will, why at kopite? Why not just use a bomb or double night kill(wolf cub?) instead of making it so conditional if you want an extra scum kill as a designer
Yeah, I'm thinking that knowing the rooms + vote thief would be too nuts. I think it just happened to be bad luck in the sense that they have a vote thief and we ended up in a "vote or die, motherfucker" room
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,158
Yeah, I attribute Kopite's death to dumb luck overall, and Aeleus to really dumb luck. There are two answers for why you steal kopite's vote specifically. To get him not to vote for his favored target(me, it seems), or to make it look like that same person is guilty when they're not. Good luck with the WIFOM there.

If the scum plan was to clear me though, why target hecht? He's been one of my defenders for the most part, and after he led that bad lynch yesterday, it would have made him a pretty good lynch candidate today. It would be dumb for scum to waste a kill on him.
 

Hecht

These are my salad days
Administrator
Oct 24, 2017
4,260
Yeah, I attribute Kopite's death to dumb luck overall, and Aeleus to really dumb luck. There are two answers for why you steal kopite's vote specifically. To get him not to vote for his favored target(me, it seems), or to make it look like that same person is guilty when they're not. Good luck with the WIFOM there.

If the scum plan was to clear me though, why target hecht? He's been one of my defenders for the most part, and after he led that bad lynch yesterday, it would have made him a pretty good lynch candidate today. It would be dumb for scum to waste a kill on him.
unfortunately....i agree with this.

which is why my vote still sits on Dubs
 

B-Dubs

Oh well, what the hell
Administrator
Oct 25, 2017
11,951
Yeah, I attribute Kopite's death to dumb luck overall, and Aeleus to really dumb luck. There are two answers for why you steal kopite's vote specifically. To get him not to vote for his favored target(me, it seems), or to make it look like that same person is guilty when they're not. Good luck with the WIFOM there.

If the scum plan was to clear me though, why target hecht? He's been one of my defenders for the most part, and after he led that bad lynch yesterday, it would have made him a pretty good lynch candidate today. It would be dumb for scum to waste a kill on him.
It could be he's lying about the bulletproof vest, knowing whoever did the save last night might not want to claim on D2, to throw suspicion off the both of you.

unfortunately....i agree with this.

which is why my vote still sits on Dubs
You would agree either way. As scum it'd help keep the lie going and as town you'd just be being honest.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,158
A town vote stealer is negative utility and better off not used. If that's your role, you should delete the role PM, then copy paste the vanilla role PM, and pretend you never got the first one.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,158
Not if you use it on Z-Beat :P
Even if he's scum, it's probably a bad idea to vote steal him. Unless you know he's scum, and in that case, why aren't you just lynching him? Otherwise, you need to let them vote so you have evidence against them. If you vote steal scum, it just gives them an excuse to skate for a day with zero consequence.
 

Hecht

These are my salad days
Administrator
Oct 24, 2017
4,260
Scum
B-Dubs
weemadarthur
Muffin

Lean Scum
Godfather
Z-Beat
saenima
Kalor

Null
Everyone else

Lean Town
*Splinter
BronsonLee
 
Oct 25, 2017
746
I wanna look at these voters


Godfather (4 votes)
Kitsunelaine - #359 #437
Stuart444 - #766 #1,034
Muffin - #842
Kitsunelaine - #1,379 #1,671
Kopite - #1,519
saenima - #1,535
BronsonLee - #1,562 #1,692
B-Dubs - #1,601

SaucyKaz (3 votes)
Stuart444 - #1,170
Grizzly - #1,173
LuxCommander - #1,184
Hecht - #1,378 #1,386
Aeleus - #1,486 #1,592
Hecht - #1,575 #1,604

These people (let's ignore Kopite in here for now) were not on the vote train at the end. I feel like this could be a good place for scum to hide. I think we throw GF into the mix as well due to the votes/voices thing.
Right, I'm pulling this out and taking out the dead or dying:

Muffin
saenima
B-Dubs
Stuart444
LuxCommander

People still alive and not on a train last night.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,158
Scum
B-Dubs
weemadarthur
Muffin

Lean Scum
Godfather
Z-Beat
saenima
Kalor

Null
Everyone else

Lean Town
*Splinter
BronsonLee
Buddy, come on. b-dubs, saenima, and muffin were all voting for me. you think we pushed my vote as a team, when lux, kaz, stuart(at one point), and grizzly were all candidates? This is a terrible list.
 

Hecht

These are my salad days
Administrator
Oct 24, 2017
4,260
Buddy, come on. b-dubs, saenima, and muffin were all voting for me. you think we pushed my vote as a team, when lux, kaz, stuart(at one point), and grizzly were all candidates? This is a terrible list.
When is any reads list 100% correct

That's just where I put them all now. If any of them flip, I'll reevaluate.
 
Oct 25, 2017
746
Room votes from yesterday:

Muffin - purple
saenima - orange
B-Dubs - orange
Stuart444 - purple
LuxCommander - dark

I am yet to work out why this is useful. My head is still convinced that they have some better ideas on the rooms than we do
 

B-Dubs

Oh well, what the hell
Administrator
Oct 25, 2017
11,951
There’s something weird going on with quotes, but please don’t edit your posts.
I think it's the save draft feature. If people want to totally change their posts mid-thought they need to delete everything and hit "delete draft"
 
Oct 25, 2017
746
The Draft Save feature kinda messes things up when you start one post, change your mind, then write another. I fake quoted a whole bunch of shit into weemadarthur's mouth on mistake earlier
Alright. I think it's because I was making a reply to aeleus on mobile at the same time and when I cut it to give a quick reply something happened with the start of the quote tag
There’s something weird going on with quotes, but please don’t edit your posts.
I think it's the save draft feature. If people want to totally change their posts mid-thought they need to delete everything and hit "delete draft"
So weird
 

B-Dubs

Oh well, what the hell
Administrator
Oct 25, 2017
11,951
Room votes from yesterday:

Muffin - purple
saenima - orange
B-Dubs - orange
Stuart444 - purple
LuxCommander - dark

I am yet to work out why this is useful. My head is still convinced that they have some better ideas on the rooms than we do
I'm not sure it is. I don't know any more about the rooms than what's in the information Brazil gave us. I was pretty straight up with my thinking that orange would be a bad room to get stuck in late-game yesterday. I figured we get it over with early and it'd give us more information about how the other rooms might work.
 
Oct 25, 2017
845
Florida
Right now I think Hecht and Godfather (still) as town. I believe Hecht's claim. *Splinter 's is fine for now. The doomed couple is clearly doomed in my eyes. WhySoDevious is probably also safe.
Kalor scares the hell out of me and has since my first game with me. Cannot read him.
OMGUS on Stuart444 and BronsonLee because they were mean to me. (Less scum read on Stuart but if a gun was held to my head I'd still say scum). Can't read BronsonLee but seems to be staying out of trouble so town lean I guess.
I need to read more of Girlofgotham and Z-Beat. Muffin doesn't even blip on my radar so I guess scum? Everyone else is flying under my radar. StanleyPalmtree is in this game, right?
LuxCommander ...

VOTE: LuxCommander I'm going to leave this here for now so keep it safe, okay?

Really I don't fucking know. Safe answer, huh?

Hecht, Godfather, *Splinter, the doomed couple, and WhySoDevious are town in my eyes.