How do you follow from this:
To this:
I was reading your post mostly nodding in agreement until the last part. I agree it's not town play, and said as much before. But zipped gleefully painting a giant target on his back is precisely why i don't want to lynch him right now. Feels like bait.
He's talking in the past tense, not necessarily about this game.
If that's all you can get from D1, that's on you. I've tried carrying town many times, and usually end up disappointed. Why should this game be any different, I guess.
I compared their post numbers because Zipped has been making posts only to keep his joke going (aka making posts for the sake of it, similar to what I believe Z-Beats might be doing), but on reflection that isn't a very useful comparison.Can you see what stance Zipped has taken? Since you're putting them next to each other?
If it's bait it would be a bad game mechanic because it would be far too easy to make yourself someone we have to deal with like this. I'm not buying it.
But if zipped is really just normal scum, then that's a pretty badly misjudged gambit they have going on there.
All of which is to say, if I can't convince townies that voting is pro-town, we're fucked.
Blarg did the same thing in GoT. He spent D1 playing with spoiler tags and we were split on whether to lynch him or not because if he was scum it'd be a dumb move on his part. Guess how he flipped when the game ended.I agree here. Mechanically i don't think it makes much sense. I was thinking more like a scum bomb or something along those lines, but i don't see why scum would just throw him out on the first day when there are mislynches to pursue before that either. Maybe a neutral with some weird conditions?
But if zipped is really just normal scum, then that's a pretty badly misjudged gambit they have going on there.
Blarg did the same thing in GoT. He spent D1 playing with spoiler tags and we were split on whether to lynch him or not because if he was scum it'd be a dumb move on his part. Guess how he flipped when the game ended.
I don't have a deadline, I simply said that I don't consider a lack of an immediate vote to be bad play. I didn't suggest voting early was a scumtell either.and the last day of voting for D1 starts in 63 minutes. What is the deadline for when you consider not voting to be a scumtell? I would like literally anything concrete from the non-voters.
As for carrying, It's too early in this game to tell if I'm on point, but my past track record is pretty good. I'm one of the most experienced players in the community, and have been here around since game 1. I just stop playing every other season cause I get tired of inactivity and replacements plaguing every game. It's why I rail against it on Day 1 every single time.
All of which is to say, if I can't convince townies that voting is pro-town, we're fucked.
well boo freaking hoo. If we're fucked D1 then might as well not even try.
I agree here. Mechanically i don't think it makes much sense. I was thinking more like a scum bomb or something along those lines, but i don't see why scum would just throw him out on the first day when there are mislynches to pursue before that either. Maybe a neutral with some weird conditions?
But if zipped is really just normal scum, then that's a pretty badly misjudged gambit they have going on there.
That's exactly what scum wants, yes. Are you starting to realize that encouraging anti-town play just plays into their hands? Not voting favors scum 100%.
I'm not saying that voting is anti-town. Nobody is saying that voting is anti-town. We're apparently just not keeping to your very tight schedule.
Nobody is talking about not voting.That's exactly what scum wants, yes. Are you starting to realize that encouraging anti-town play just plays into their hands? Not voting favors scum 100%.
All of which is to say, if I can't convince townies that voting is pro-town, we're fucked.
You're really overexaggering this and "encouraging not voting" as well as "encouraging anti-town play" are quite the leap from what's actually being said.That's exactly what scum wants, yes. Are you starting to realize that encouraging anti-town play just plays into their hands? Not voting favors scum 100%.
I'm debating it, but I'm currently on Dubs cause I still think something is fishy there.Godfather is veering into self parody here.
Can we have some more grizzly votes?
Is it badly misjudged if people are questioning them and hesitant to vote for them? The doubt can easily lead to people voting elsewhere by days end.
And I'm weary of people saying it's bait because that might be scum trying to deflect from a scummate in order to avoid a D1 lynch.
Good points.
I'm not against lynching zipped if things keep this way tomorrow, i'd just rather having something more solid. It might be asking too much from D1 though.
You have to lynch someone on D1. Why not the person who'll be a problem later? That'd free up later days. We'd move the game along.
Because it's too easy. A bandwagon on D1 doesn't teach us a whole lot.
And just to toss my opinion in the pot here, yes, we need to vote even on silly ol' D1. Lynching is our best tool against scum.
You keep twisting the narrative here. No-one is questioning the value of voting.I don't even understand. It's not new players questioning the value of voting, and other experienced players are encouraging them as well. What the hell happened to our meta? Is this some anti-vaxxer level bullshittery happening here?
I misunderstood a post then. I'll go back and reread. My bad.No one has said "Don't vote at all"
That'd be stupid. We're not talking about no lynching.
I have a list of people acting sus' but I kinda need to see how D1 plays out before I get my magnifying glass
Please read the rest of the discussion here. I know that Godfather is shouting the loudest but no-one has suggested not voting.And just to toss my opinion in the pot here, yes, we need to vote even on silly ol' D1. Lynching is our best tool against scum.
Goings-on? Can you be a bit more specific? There's the "Do we lynch Zip or not?" and the "People who don't vote right now are scum" thing (which is bullshit imo and makes me look at those dudes sideways). Who cares if people have votes down right this second?
Sorry, I posted before your response.
No worries, I need to have my wrists slapped for being too lax in catching up.
You've been dishonest with this entire argument for a while now. From generalizing early D1 votes to voting in general and going from people stating why they personally think it's not absolutely indicative of bad or good play to encouraging others not to vote. That's quite something.I don't even understand. It's not new players questioning the value of voting, and other experienced players are encouraging them as well. What the hell happened to our meta? Is this some anti-vaxxer level bullshittery happening here?
There's still an entire 24 hours to go, shit can happen and people don't want to jump right away.I don't even understand. It's not new players questioning the value of voting, and other experienced players are encouraging them as well. What the hell happened to our meta? Is this some anti-vaxxer level bullshittery happening here?
I like you.There's still an entire 24 hours to go, shit can happen and people don't want to jump right away.
You keep twisting the narrative here. No-one is questioning the value of voting.
You have been pushing people to vote quickly and when you get called out on it, you claim that we're anti-town and we're not going to vote.