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The Mansion Mafia - Hold on tightly to your secrets
- Thread starter Brazil
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Eh, I'm really doubting it right now. He's been awfully wrong and self centered and with GFs flip which includes a BP role (and GF himself said to keep an eye on Hecht before dying)
His voting record isn't great either.
He's either a REALLY wrong townie or scum pretending to get lots of things wrong and BSing with his BP claim.
at this point, I want to see his flip.
If he is lying(I don't think he is) we can get him anytime, we will know more of the setup in following days and his claim has him cornered, we need to explore other options
Okay, let's see who I'm willing to vote for:
Group A:
2. Zippedpinhead
5. Kitsunelaine
7. Hecht
8. StanleyPalmtree
Zipped because of his weirdness early game.
Stan because of his Feps vote.
Kit because their voting record hasn't been great either (though I can understand the "I don't like punishing people for real life" post when she voted for Grizzly)
Hecht because of what I said above.
I won't be considering any other lynches today.
I trust you, and maaaybe Stuart. Saenima I can't decide - they're playing well but it's nothing I can say is scum or town. I'm kinda hoping Hecht flips scum just so that I can move them back into a town read.
The other 4 are pretty much my most unknown, they all range from null to scum lean. Someone (I think you?) had a decent argument for Kalor being town, I guess.
alright then...
It's an odd word choice. Pretty sure it's a breadcrumb.
Ah, good catch.
So it wasn't Kits that visited him, so she's off the hook for me.
This is a point against Devious, although... I vaguely remember calling someone out as a PR on day one... Wasn't that Devious?
If godfather lost a BP that night (putting the strongman theory aside for a moment and suggesting Hecht is lying) wouldn't this suggest Devious could have made an attack on godfather N1?
If we are to take this as a breadcrumb, that is.
I think it does. We should see what Devious says about it.
Kitsune is one of the people who could have swayed the vote from Lux to Grizz on D1, so I'm eyeing that lynch.
Devious will be a consideration depending on how believable the claim is if there will be a claim
LuxCommander (8 votes)
*Splinter - #924 #925
Grizzly - #1,131 #1,173
StanleyPalmtree - #1,136
Godfather - #1,140 #1,230 (08:36:49) (from the vote tool)
saenima - #1,180 #1,535 (09:43:51)
When Saenima voted for Lux
-Stu had only one vote(mine)
-Kaz had got his first votes(Stuand bear's) around 40 minutes earlier
Does anyone think Saenima bused the strongest PR when he could had become a contender for Zipped who was way ahead?
Vote tally from #1202:
Zippedpinhead (5 votes)
B-Dubs - #190
Grizzly - #315 #1,131
Stuart444 - #406 #684
Z-Beat - #675
BronsonLee - #694
Kitsunelaine - #789
Kopite - #1,090
SaucyKaz (3 votes)
Stuart444 - #1,170
Grizzly - #1,173
LuxCommander - #1,184
LuxCommander (3 votes)
*Splinter - #924 #925
Grizzly - #1,131 #1,173
StanleyPalmtree - #1,136
Godfather - #1,140
saenima - #1,180
Grizzly (2 votes)
*Splinter - #750 #924
*Splinter - #925
Hecht - #931
*Splinter (1 votes)
Melonrabbit - #498
LuxCommander - #663 #1,003
StanleyPalmtree - #1,040 #1,136
saenima (1 votes)
Kalor - #662
B-Dubs (1 votes)
Hecht - #206 #931
flatearthpandas - #293
Z-Beat (1 votes)
Aeleus - #677
Melonrabbit (1 votes)
saenima - #679 #1,180
SaucyKaz - #817
Fat4all - #959 #1,103
LuxCommander - #1,003 #1,045
Stuart444 - #1,034 #1,082
LuxCommander - #1,045 #1,184
Fat4all (1 votes)
weemadarthur - #1,196
Godfather (1 votes)
Kitsunelaine - #359 #437
Stuart444 - #766 #1,034
Muffin - #842
WhySoDevious (1 votes)
Girlofgotham - #1,071
Stuart444 (1 votes)
Godfather - #140 #589
turmoil7 - #1,109
StanleyPalmtree (0 votes)
weemadarthur - #181 #980
Aeleus (0 votes)
Aeleus - #112 #161
Kopite (0 votes)
Grizzly - #194 #273
Kalor (0 votes)
Muffin - #728 #842
Muffin (0 votes)
Godfather - #589 #1,140
Hecht (0 votes)
Stuart444 - #217 #406
Kitsunelaine (0 votes)
Kitsunelaine - #437 #789
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Zipped was a very real and scummy alternative to place a vote for
Melonrabbit was a easy out too
A lot of players had one vote, bdubs, muffin, wsd, gog, z-beat
Are we supposed to think that scum saenima chosed made the Lux train a contender against Zipped in that target rich envivorment?
(to hecht: do you think Zipped, Lux and Saenima can be in the same scum team?)
Even his vote out of the Lux train checks out!!
Bear unvoted minutes before Saenima voted, and Godfather had unvoted by then too, Stan was the only remaining active vote there
Saenima: lean town towards full town read
StanleyPalmtree - #1,136
When Saenima voted for Lux
-Stu had only one vote(mine)
-Kaz had got his first votes(Stuand bear's) around 40 minutes earlier
Does anyone think Saenima bused the strongest PR when he could had become a contender for Zipped who was way ahead?
Vote tally from #1202:
Zippedpinhead (5 votes)
B-Dubs - #190
Z-Beat - #675
BronsonLee - #694
Kitsunelaine - #789
Kopite - #1,090
SaucyKaz (3 votes)
Stuart444 - #1,170
Grizzly - #1,173
LuxCommander - #1,184
LuxCommander (3 votes)
StanleyPalmtree - #1,136
Godfather - #1,140
saenima - #1,180
Grizzly (2 votes)
*Splinter - #925
Hecht - #931
*Splinter (1 votes)
Melonrabbit - #498
saenima (1 votes)
Kalor - #662
B-Dubs (1 votes)
flatearthpandas - #293
Z-Beat (1 votes)
Aeleus - #677
Melonrabbit (1 votes)
SaucyKaz - #817
Fat4all (1 votes)
weemadarthur - #1,196
Godfather (1 votes)
Muffin - #842
WhySoDevious (1 votes)
Girlofgotham - #1,071
Stuart444 (1 votes)
turmoil7 - #1,109
StanleyPalmtree (0 votes)
Aeleus (0 votes)
Kopite (0 votes)
Kalor (0 votes)
Muffin (0 votes)
Hecht (0 votes)
Kitsunelaine (0 votes)
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Zipped was a very real and scummy alternative to place a vote for
Melonrabbit was a easy out too
A lot of players had one vote, bdubs, muffin, wsd, gog, z-beat
Are we supposed to think that scum saenima chosed made the Lux train a contender against Zipped in that target rich envivorment?
(to hecht: do you think Zipped, Lux and Saenima can be in the same scum team?)
Even his vote out of the Lux train checks out!!
Bear unvoted minutes before Saenima voted, and Godfather had unvoted by then too, Stan was the only remaining active vote there
Saenima: lean town towards full town read
If I'm reading this right, Saenima voted and unvoted Lux when it didn't really matter, and never went back to him when he became a lynch candidate?
Unvoted unvoted unvoted I really need autocorrect to learn the word unvoted
If you can Stu can find it independently then a scum team of 3+ with more reason to want to find it probably already did as well.
Might as well get it out there at this point. There's a very real chance he attacked Godfather as well
It made Lux a serious contender against Zipped, who was handily ahead of the vote
It is a huge risk
Zippedpinhead well now you know who targeted GF, what are your reads now? I would appreciate a full read list of both rooms
This feels a lot weaker than the Kalor example, it's not enough for me to rule out Saenima.
Last time I was scum my teammates bussed each other so aggressively on day one that we ended up with three of us up for the first lynch.
I also wasn't sure about revealing it but Splinter is right. A scum team working together probably would have found it - possibly before I did. (Maybe yesterday which if devious is scum, would also make sense as to why GF was killed. GF said he thought the person who targeted him was town but did cast some doubt in the last line of that post I quoted)
That godfather really did breadcrumb his visitor and it wasn't kitsunelaine?
Saw that now... gotta formulate the reads list though. Can I get back with you later today on it? I just woke up.
However, I do think that gives kitsunelaine, specifically, more town cred. It's an odd word usage, which to me would usually indicate breadcrumb
Just to check, can you explain why this gives Kits more town credit?
I think the way he meant it was. It means Kits may not have visited GF N1 if devious visited him since GF never breadcrumbed Kits in any way AFAIK.
I know that, I wanted to know what Zipped was thinking -.-
The newbie scum being bold enough to bus the strongest role(that we know of so far)?
Yes. That's not as outlandish as you're implying.
Like I said I've seen scum teams bus themselves to death while town are still focussed on posting funny GIFs. That's practically the meta at this point.
I don't understand zipped's opinion on how this gives town credit to kitsune, I would like him to go into details too
Sure
Well I give saenima the benefits of doubt, I think he is more likely town than scum
Well I give saenima the benefits of doubt, I think he is more likely town than scum
Let's say someone(maybe Devious) shot Godfather N1, what about Hecht being attacked? Where did that extra attempted kill come from? Maybe the day vig can also attack at night but a town aligned vig surely wouldn't shoot N1, and we only had one kill last night.
If Devious is scum and shot GF on N1, then odds are Hecht isn't being truthful. A flip there could well tell us if Hecht is town or scum.
We've seen town and scum with bulletproof protection, and if Hecht is telling the truth there's another. Extra kills should be expected with all this protection flying around.
I think Hecht was the one being attacked by scum, GF was almost lynched on D1, worth for scum to keep as mislynch meat
And now I lean towards no more killing powers than the day vig, this room is double lynch day, dark room can kill careless/busy players, more killing power is too much killing, the game could end in a handful of days, it would need several protective roles to balance that...... Worth thinking about
Maybe GF breadcrumbed his role on D1 when he was about to be lynched and scum noticed? Mmm nah, they would had roleblocked him