Pretty sure he hasnt claimed yet besides saying at one point he thought town and scum were 50/50 if I remember correctly
Pretty sure he hasnt claimed yet besides saying at one point he thought town and scum were 50/50 if I remember correctly
I can't believe I have to point this out, but according to youWhich is also kind of why I side-eye the people who think I'm scum. Scum *targeted* me on N1 with a *kill*.
No, he's our best lead in that group. It's getting to the point where he'll probably need to claim by day's end.Yeah I just saw
I think that there is no point on him not claiming at this point, not sure if everyone agrees
Yes yes, I'm aware.I can't believe I have to point this out, but according to you
Or they targeted someone else.Yes yes, I'm aware.
But it also makes no sense for them to target GF. So either I'm telling the truth or scum decided not to kill anyone on N1, which is equally as dumb as shooting GF.
And I know you don't believe me, but my vest is gone. That is actual information. Anything else is pure speculation because we don't have anyone coming forward. Not that they should unless they are absolutely sure, but chances are they are not.Or they targeted someone else.
I don't think it's that crazy to target GF either, he's a dangerous player regardless of role. He was also more townread on day one than day two.
Unvote?I'll be checking out now until tomorrow. So tired, need sleep lol.
Its ok,
Why So devious? If that was the breadcrumb, then definitely worth taking a shot at.
Its a personal fault of mine, But until I see a strongman flip I have trouble believing that they exist in a game. I like to work with what is presented instead of speculating. So based on that whoever GF breadcrumbed as their visitor Night 1 is the most likely scum target. If it is WSD then we should lynch WSD, if that is Kits then lets get kits.
Now my reads -
Group A:
1. BronsonLee - Town probably the safest person that could have possibly gotten the Double today
2. Zippedpinhead -me
3. weemadarthur - Null read
4. WhySoDevious - Scum possible (Probably NOT if Kits IS)
5. Kitsunelaine - Scum possible (probably NOT if WSD IS)
6. Fat4all - Town read
7. Hecht - coming clean on the BP is a town play, scum would have ridden the fake multi to the end - town lean. Before this I was leaning scum on him.
8. StanleyPalmtree - Behelit? totally town
9. Girlofgotham - Null
Group B: (i.e. the don't lynch Zipped crew)
1. Stuart444 - Town read
2. B-Dubs - flip flopping back and forth, more town than not but at least its a read
3. Kalor - Town lean
4. saenima - town lean
5. Muffin - null read
6. Z-Beat - Null read
7. *Splinter - No one is more surprised than I that I am agreeing with *splinter this much this game. Town read
8. turmoil7 - melon was a null read (for retro stuff) but Turmoil is pretty strong with a town like game!
See what I mean about " is it possible all the scum players are in one group"? I was posting earlier. all my scum reads are in the group I can't vote for.
one of my null reads of course, I just can't see exactly who yet.You only have two scum reads? And they are a "they can't be scum together" pair?
Who is scum if Kitsu is scum?
Who is scum if WSD is scum?
I'm here. I was out almost all morning. I have a horrible stomach bug and woke up with a bad headache.
What's the point of claiming?
I'm not a vanilla townie but I hold no power, no information, no anything. I would have welcomed something like that cause at least I could have made a bit more informed voting.
Anyways, since I guess there are some townies with some RPs that might see me doing something at night, let me claim: Sleepwalker.
When that one guy claimed sleepwalker, I thought that maybe he was lying because I'm a sleepwalker, but then someone mentioned right away that they had been in a game with two sleepwalkers, so that explained that.
But seriously, a town noob with no access to information other than what I'm over analyzing.
I'm here. I was out almost all morning. I have a horrible stomach bug and woke up with a bad headache.
What's the point of claiming?
I'm not a vanilla townie but I hold no power, no information, no anything. I would have welcomed something like that cause at least I could have made a bit more informed voting.
Anyways, since I guess there are some townies with some RPs that might see me doing something at night, let me claim: Sleepwalker.
When that one guy claimed sleepwalker, I thought that maybe he was lying because I'm a sleepwalker, but then someone mentioned right away that they had been in a game with two sleepwalkers, so that explained that.
But seriously, a town noob with no access to information other than what I'm over analyzing.
And I know you don't believe me, but my vest is gone. That is actual information.
Nope.
Fair enough. But any claim of anything is just that. Nothing is ever really confirmed until there is a flip. But my stating that I know what scum did gives town the ability to look at people's interactions with me to see if there's anything there, and it gives scum a reason to want me gone.I really, really hate to be that guy again but it's not actual information. It's just your word that serves your own interest. You keep talking about these things as if they're confirmed facts. They're not.
I feel like an asshole for even pointing this out.
now we have two sleepwalker claims. is that a role that gets doubled up on a lot? turmoil was the one who claimed second sleepwalker, right?
GF could have claimed "I know that Devious visited me last night." That doesn't mean anything unless there is a flip. Had Devious flipped we would have had an idea, but we wouldn't know entirely for sure until GF flipped.Fair enough. But any claim of anything is just that. Nothing is ever really confirmed until there is a flip. But my stating that I know what scum did gives town the ability to look at people's interactions with me to see if there's anything there, and it gives scum a reason to want me gone.
Fair enough. But any claim of anything is just that. Nothing is ever really confirmed until there is a flip. But my stating that I know what scum did gives town the ability to look at people's interactions with me to see if there's anything there, and it gives scum a reason to want me gone.
Fair enough. But any claim of anything is just that. Nothing is ever really confirmed until there is a flip. But my stating that I know what scum did gives town the ability to look at people's interactions with me to see if there's anything there, and it gives scum a reason to want me gone.
Usually when two sleepwalkers happen, one would sleepwalk on even nights and the other on odd nights. It's rare to have two that do the exact same thing.
Yes. I go into that in my post.now we have two sleepwalker claims. is that a role that gets doubled up on a lot? turmoil was the one who claimed second sleepwalker, right?
So the chances are that one was lying. Maybe one of them was lying to fish the other one out? Or they picked a weak role to fake!claim without expecting it to be in the game?
It's not impossible for them to both be sleepwalkers. Now the question is whether or not one of them is scum. Two town sleepwalkers is certainly...plausible, however. But it does lend credence to there being more tracking roles out there. If scum has a tracking role of some kind I'd be inclined to believe that they are both town though.So the chances are that one was lying. Maybe one of them was lying to fish the other one out? Or they picked a weak role to fake!claim without expecting it to be in the game?
This is where I land if we assume one is scum.There's a possibility of someone lying. I'm more inclined to believe Turmoil, and there was no fishing going on.
There's a possibility of someone lying. I'm more inclined to believe Turmoil, and there was no fishing going on.
I dunno who I visited. I get no information on that.GF could have claimed "I know that Devious visited me last night." That doesn't mean anything unless there is a flip. Had Devious flipped we would have had an idea, but we wouldn't know entirely for sure until GF flipped.
We are rarely, if ever, working with complete information.
I know that, I was envisioning a scenario where GF described who visited him.I dunno who I visited. I get no information on that.
It just says that I will visit someone at random every night.
(that *was* you right, i'm not misremembering there)
(i have a bad habit of doing that and I did just wake up)
He chastised turmoil for claiming because he was in no danger and there was no need. It could have been him. Or maybe it was because it wasn't him and he claimed for no reason.I know that, I was envisioning a scenario where GF described who visited him.
great, my memory isn't TOTAL garbage then
I....I know. Never mind. My post wasn't there to damn you for any reason, it was just an example.He chastised turmoil for claiming because he was in no danger and there was no need. It could have been him. Or maybe it was because it wasn't him and he claimed for no reason.
It's okay.I....I know. Never mind. My post wasn't there to damn you for any reason, it was just an example.
In the games I am aware of, if we had multiple sleepwalkers we had multiple watchers.now we have two sleepwalker claims. is that a role that gets doubled up on a lot? turmoil was the one who claimed second sleepwalker, right?
technically they had 3, where scum had 2 because the doppelganger copied the other one, lolIn the games I am aware of, if we had multiple sleepwalkers we had multiple watchers.
HOWEVER, I can only remember well was wolf 2.0 where I had GF's role (and completely melted down when I got lynched day 2)... I believe that they had two sleepwalkers, town had one... and Scum had one as well...