Pretty sure he hasnt claimed yet besides saying at one point he thought town and scum were 50/50 if I remember correctly
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The Mansion Mafia - Hold on tightly to your secrets
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I can't believe I have to point this out, but according to you
Somehow, I am sicker than I was last week. I'll try and check in throughout the day with thoughts, but more than likely I'll be sleeping on and off.
No, he's our best lead in that group. It's getting to the point where he'll probably need to claim by day's end.
Yes yes, I'm aware.
But it also makes no sense for them to target GF. So either I'm telling the truth or scum decided not to kill anyone on N1, which is equally as dumb as shooting GF.
Or they targeted someone else.
I don't think it's that crazy to target GF either, he's a dangerous player regardless of role. He was also more townread on day one than day two.
And I know you don't believe me, but my vest is gone. That is actual information. Anything else is pure speculation because we don't have anyone coming forward. Not that they should unless they are absolutely sure, but chances are they are not.
You only have two scum reads? And they are a "they can't be scum together" pair?
Who is scum if Kitsu is scum?
Who is scum if WSD is scum?
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I'm ok with backing off a bit for now only to avoid a turbo, but nothing Hecht has said has really convinced me. I want to read his answers to me in more detail but i've been busy. I haven't had the time yet but i'll be off tomorrow and will look into Devious too like i said earlier. I would be ok with pushing Devious for answers today as well. I remember him saying he was feeling sick though, don't know how available he'll be.
I'm here. I was out almost all morning. I have a horrible stomach bug and woke up with a bad headache.
What's the point of claiming?
I'm not a vanilla townie but I hold no power, no information, no anything. I would have welcomed something like that cause at least I could have made a bit more informed voting.
Anyways, since I guess there are some townies with some RPs that might see me doing something at night, let me claim: Sleepwalker.
When that one guy claimed sleepwalker, I thought that maybe he was lying because I'm a sleepwalker, but then someone mentioned right away that they had been in a game with two sleepwalkers, so that explained that.
But seriously, a town noob with no access to information other than what I'm over analyzing.
What's the point of claiming?
I'm not a vanilla townie but I hold no power, no information, no anything. I would have welcomed something like that cause at least I could have made a bit more informed voting.
Anyways, since I guess there are some townies with some RPs that might see me doing something at night, let me claim: Sleepwalker.
When that one guy claimed sleepwalker, I thought that maybe he was lying because I'm a sleepwalker, but then someone mentioned right away that they had been in a game with two sleepwalkers, so that explained that.
But seriously, a town noob with no access to information other than what I'm over analyzing.
one of my null reads of course, I just can't see exactly who yet.
Don't say which it is so mafia don't know when to target you but do you only sleepwalk on odd or even nights.
I really, really hate to be that guy again but it's not actual information. It's just your word that serves your own interest. You keep talking about these things as if they're confirmed facts. They're not.
I feel like an asshole for even pointing this out.
I mean, if you guys wanna lynch, I don't blame you. Looking at my voting is exactly who I would go for... Grizzly train then a vote for FEP... but then, I've been wrong both times, so that should tell you something.
now we have two sleepwalker claims. is that a role that gets doubled up on a lot? turmoil was the one who claimed second sleepwalker, right?
Fair enough. But any claim of anything is just that. Nothing is ever really confirmed until there is a flip. But my stating that I know what scum did gives town the ability to look at people's interactions with me to see if there's anything there, and it gives scum a reason to want me gone.
Usually when two sleepwalkers happen, one would sleepwalk on even nights and the other on odd nights. It's rare to have two that do the exact same thing.
GF could have claimed "I know that Devious visited me last night." That doesn't mean anything unless there is a flip. Had Devious flipped we would have had an idea, but we wouldn't know entirely for sure until GF flipped.
We are rarely, if ever, working with complete information.
So the chances are that one was lying. Maybe one of them was lying to fish the other one out? Or they picked a weak role to fake!claim without expecting it to be in the game?
Yes. I go into that in my post.
I thought he was lying but then someone mentioned right away that there were two in one game he had played.
There's a possibility of someone lying. I'm more inclined to believe Turmoil, and there was no fishing going on.
It's not impossible for them to both be sleepwalkers. Now the question is whether or not one of them is scum. Two town sleepwalkers is certainly...plausible, however. But it does lend credence to there being more tracking roles out there. If scum has a tracking role of some kind I'd be inclined to believe that they are both town though.
I dunno who I visited. I get no information on that.
It just says that I will visit someone at random every night.
I know that, I was envisioning a scenario where GF described who visited him.
Just like you meant there might be 3 or 4 scum when you said "all 3" scum?
(that *was* you right, i'm not misremembering there)
(i have a bad habit of doing that and I did just wake up)
(i have a bad habit of doing that and I did just wake up)
He chastised turmoil for claiming because he was in no danger and there was no need. It could have been him. Or maybe it was because it wasn't him and he claimed for no reason.
I....I know. Never mind. My post wasn't there to damn you for any reason, it was just an example.
It's okay.
I just remember that whole exchange almost perfectly because of turmoil's claim of Sleepwalker.
In the games I am aware of, if we had multiple sleepwalkers we had multiple watchers.
HOWEVER, I can only remember well was wolf 2.0 where I had GF's role (and completely melted down when I got lynched day 2)... I believe that they had two sleepwalkers, town had one... and Scum had one as well...
technically they had 3, where scum had 2 because the doppelganger copied the other one, lol
I'm weary of people asserting that we must have a scum tracker because the two sleepwalkers MUST be town
that's pulling the cart before the horse and hella sus
that's pulling the cart before the horse and hella sus