I wanted to turbo because there was no real discussion to come out of it outside of wee trolling knowing that they were dead.
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The Mansion Mafia - Hold on tightly to your secrets
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I wanted to turbo because there was no real discussion to come out of it outside of wee trolling knowing that they were dead.
I would say there is a good chance that he is town with a bad streak.
Wouldn't be the first time I've seen that in these games.
if that is all hinging on Zipped being scum, wouldn't it make more sense to lynch Zipped first?
If one of them is scum, who do you think is more likely scum?
Between Muffin and Zipped?
Hmm. on balance, I'd guess Zipped. His D1 feels like an on purpose effort to make himself seem suspect while the rest of the days are about making people question but not lynch him if that makes sense.
That way, no one will question why he's still alive.
Let's shake some trees.
Kitsunelaine used HEADBUTT.
Vote: Zippedpinhead
Never liked the D1 play. The excuses given later about seeing how people reacted proved absolutely useless and had no attempts at follow through. Which means it was an excuse.
Kitsunelaine used HEADBUTT.
Vote: Zippedpinhead
Never liked the D1 play. The excuses given later about seeing how people reacted proved absolutely useless and had no attempts at follow through. Which means it was an excuse.
Couldn't read him, thought he would either be scum or be alive to end game.
Wasn't expecting another vig shot, but hey ho
No, but I can put it in order from least likely scum to most likely scum:
:P
Hmm. is Devious there because of his claim? As in, you believe he's most likely telling the truth?
Nah. I believe he's a sleepwalker but I still think that can go either way.
I just don't think he's scum.
He's been pushed a lot this game, if I were less lazy and I'd go back and see how the known scum interacted with him (and everyone else I guess).
You really think we had a six person scum team? Or is that worst case scenario?
Also when I flip town, how does that affect your reads in that ??? Group.
my Top scum is probably muffin and kits. With Sabrina thrown is as wild card.
Top top town is *splinter, because I don't think scum would fake cop twice in one game.
Top top town is *splinter, because I don't think scum would fake cop twice in one game.
Day 1 - primarily room chat and that run-in with Godfather which I was involved in (which I think a bunch of people then became involved in). Now knowing that Godfather was town, looks a bit like stoking up trouble but Godfather was super argumentative so probably NAI.
Day 1 votes - voted for Kalor then Godfather - stayed off of any of the front-runners. Wee voted for Muffin that day (also staying off of the trains).
Day 2 - seriously had it in for Godfather. Also had a mild stooshy with Kits after sassing the Grizzly voters. Lots of room talk. Godfather asked for more reads, Muffin claimed to have already given them although all I can find before that is the getting annoyed at the Grizzly votes (particularly fep and the mild run-in with Kits). Run-in with Hecht and I because we each suggested looking at not just the Grizzly voters but the ones who weren't on Grizzly/Lux (this list included Muffin)
Day 2 votes - voted Godfather then fep.
Day 3 - the reads list for Group A was super vague - mostly nulls. Scum leans were Devious and Kits.
Day 3 votes - voted Kits.
Starting to get confused with days so just some general comments, I'm assuming most of this is Day 4 - has some weird thinking connecting Kits and Dubs. We now know Dubs was our doc so curious to see where this thinking will go. Decided that scum were still Kits, Devious and Kalor. Interested to see where this sits now. Clearly doesn't believe Devious' sleepwalker claim and Kalor has since claimed vig. Would like to know their scum team now.
Day 4 - no vote but it was a turbo day.
And so ends my skim read of muffin.
Gotta say, it's feeling a little scummy. All votes have been on town and they generally stay away from the vote front-runners. Also, they are one of the lowest posters - only posting above Zipped and Devious. Haven't really stuck their neck out at all.
Seems to be heavily pushing Kits (did the same with Godfather and they turned out town, granted they were fairly provocative). It's giving me a mild headache as I have been leaning scum on Kits. Either this animosity is orchestrated or one of them is town.
Day 1 votes - voted for Kalor then Godfather - stayed off of any of the front-runners. Wee voted for Muffin that day (also staying off of the trains).
Day 2 - seriously had it in for Godfather. Also had a mild stooshy with Kits after sassing the Grizzly voters. Lots of room talk. Godfather asked for more reads, Muffin claimed to have already given them although all I can find before that is the getting annoyed at the Grizzly votes (particularly fep and the mild run-in with Kits). Run-in with Hecht and I because we each suggested looking at not just the Grizzly voters but the ones who weren't on Grizzly/Lux (this list included Muffin)
Day 2 votes - voted Godfather then fep.
Day 3 - the reads list for Group A was super vague - mostly nulls. Scum leans were Devious and Kits.
Day 3 votes - voted Kits.
Starting to get confused with days so just some general comments, I'm assuming most of this is Day 4 - has some weird thinking connecting Kits and Dubs. We now know Dubs was our doc so curious to see where this thinking will go. Decided that scum were still Kits, Devious and Kalor. Interested to see where this sits now. Clearly doesn't believe Devious' sleepwalker claim and Kalor has since claimed vig. Would like to know their scum team now.
Day 4 - no vote but it was a turbo day.
And so ends my skim read of muffin.
Gotta say, it's feeling a little scummy. All votes have been on town and they generally stay away from the vote front-runners. Also, they are one of the lowest posters - only posting above Zipped and Devious. Haven't really stuck their neck out at all.
Seems to be heavily pushing Kits (did the same with Godfather and they turned out town, granted they were fairly provocative). It's giving me a mild headache as I have been leaning scum on Kits. Either this animosity is orchestrated or one of them is town.
I dunno if I even wanna look at my vote history lol cause I know I whiffed real bad on:
Godfather (honestly don't care tho, he was a detriment either way)
Z-Beat (coastie toastie)
FEP (bad read based on his bad vote)
But I got Kaz and Weem so :shrug:
Godfather (honestly don't care tho, he was a detriment either way)
Z-Beat (coastie toastie)
FEP (bad read based on his bad vote)
But I got Kaz and Weem so :shrug:
To be fair I did want wee get lynched yesterday and said as much. Not gonna claim much credit for that, as it was a pretty inevitable lynch with the gambit, but my bad streak wasnt at least so bad that I even fumbled what to do on that lynch, like some others did.
I always have to roll my eyes at these kind of posts. What's there to shake? At least tell me what you wanna know. I'm not going through all y'alls scum theories and tell you for each one why I think you're wrong.
Uhh that's hard, there really aren't many scummy things that I can think of. Still think Kits is a consideration, for reasons I've said D4.
The others? I really don't know what to think of Devious and the claim, but at this point I dont think we should lynch there. I just have no experience with sleepwalkers I could base my judgement on. I do not like how Zipped is looking so far in retrospect. Much noise on D1, followed by not much. Might have been on purpose. Saenima I'm not sure on.
So I'd wanna see Zipped or Kits go today. I guess I would be fine with Devious too, but eh.
Some Wee quotes that stuck out on a reread.
I can't decide if this post about Devious was just them telling the truth and they actually decided to have Devious say some "noob shit", with the 50/50 mafia split on day 2 so they get town read or if this post is just them trying to defend town Devious.
I think this is her trying to mislead people about the size of the scum team. I've definitely done that before to seed the idea that more scum are left than there actually are.
And a read list which is basically useless but someone might find it interesting. The only person they list as scum is Muffin again. They backed off that read later after they claimed to reread them.
I can't decide if this post about Devious was just them telling the truth and they actually decided to have Devious say some "noob shit", with the 50/50 mafia split on day 2 so they get town read or if this post is just them trying to defend town Devious.
I think this is her trying to mislead people about the size of the scum team. I've definitely done that before to seed the idea that more scum are left than there actually are.
And a read list which is basically useless but someone might find it interesting. The only person they list as scum is Muffin again. They backed off that read later after they claimed to reread them.
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==== DAY 5 VOTES ====
Day Start
Zippedpinhead (2 votes)
turmoil7 - #5,217
Kitsunelaine - #5,297
saenima (1 votes)
Kalor - #5,311
Muffin (1 votes)
saenima - #5,317
Kalor (0 votes)
BronsonLee - #5,237 #5,312
Not voting: *Splinter, Zippedpinhead, BronsonLee, Muffin, Girlofgotham, WhySoDevious, Stuart444
Post Counts:
saenima: 32 BronsonLee: 25 Stuart444: 15 turmoil7: 14 Girlofgotham: 11 Kalor: 11 Muffin: 10 Kitsunelaine: 9 Zippedpinhead: 6 *Splinter: 6 StanleyPalmtree: 1 WhySoDevious: 1
Current Countdown:
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Day Start
Zippedpinhead (2 votes)
turmoil7 - #5,217
Kitsunelaine - #5,297
saenima (1 votes)
Kalor - #5,311
Muffin (1 votes)
saenima - #5,317
Kalor (0 votes)
Not voting: *Splinter, Zippedpinhead, BronsonLee, Muffin, Girlofgotham, WhySoDevious, Stuart444
Post Counts:
saenima: 32 BronsonLee: 25 Stuart444: 15 turmoil7: 14 Girlofgotham: 11 Kalor: 11 Muffin: 10 Kitsunelaine: 9 Zippedpinhead: 6 *Splinter: 6 StanleyPalmtree: 1 WhySoDevious: 1
Current Countdown:
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I'm struggling with you not seeing "many scummy things" when we're 5 days in.
Why are you not sure on Saenima?
Can we get some quotes or references to back any of these vague feelings up? With regards to Zipped, Saenima, Kits or Devious.
huh, weird. The pressure for Zipped only made him pop up with a series of three posts that only make really easy and banal observations... With repeats of things he'd already said as well. Smells like trying to get away with more coasting.
Now come on. Do you think there's many people here right now who are outright acting scummy or anything like that? I don't see it really and I don't think there's a clear way to go for many people right now either.
As in, I have seen people scumread him over the days and in most cases I didn't really see it. I don't have a strong opinion on them one way or the other.
What about Kits or Zipped was vague? I pretty explicitly said why I would consider them. Zipped is self-explanatory from that post.
For Kits, I refer you to my posts from D4:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/th...-to-your-secrets.98776/page-102#post-18158567
https://www.resetera.com/threads/th...-to-your-secrets.98776/page-102#post-18158932
I prefer to say nothing instead of inflating my post count with nonsensical theories for fun, thanks.
I wasn't asking for a smoking gun but it seems very naive to be sitting at this stage saying "no-one seems scummy yet".
Also your original statement about not being sure on Saenima made me think that you were leaning scum on them. So you're saying that you're not sure of their towniness or scumminess? Because I read your first post as leaning scum but now you're saying that you don't know how others could be scum reading them? I must have read that wrong.
I think you've been vague for most of the game, if I'm honest. And I think you're evading questions today now that the spotlight is on you.
It's sunday, and I have a family. I play when I can today, just FYI