It's an extended version of what was on the trailer. Cool enough, very Spidey like.
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Marvel Cinematic Universe | We had a good run, and now it's over
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It's an extended version of what was on the trailer. Cool enough, very Spidey like.
Tbf I'm not sure it would have done well even if the MCU deal hadn't expired. The movie already made $1.1B and it's barely out of theaters, a rerelease now seems kind of pointless for a couple extra minutes.
I'd expect a bidding war between Comcast, Apple, and Netflix.
I'd expect a bidding war between Comcast, Apple, and Netflix.
I assume Ike only want inhumans to replace Xmen, now that they have XMen, he probably didn't care about inhuman.
Which is good because it means we can get proper Inhumans.
I was actually wondering if they'd make Kamala a mutant rather than inhuman in some crazy twist but maybe they'll go with inhuman still if they're planning on expanding on it.
Need Black Bolt and Maximus for when they eventually have the balls to do a double-feature of Time Runs Out and Secret Wars.
At some point Inhumans was obviously going to get a reboot. I just think it'll be a while, since Eternals is kind of filling that "ancient hidden family" vibe.
It's gonna happen to the Netflix crew too, eventually. I think the Agents of SHIELD are the only ones who won't get recast and reintegrated eventually, but Quake is the only "important" one there anyways.
It's gonna happen to the Netflix crew too, eventually. I think the Agents of SHIELD are the only ones who won't get recast and reintegrated eventually, but Quake is the only "important" one there anyways.
Since Tom Holland is signed for another Spider-Man movie, the supporting cast could be as well. And if not, Zendaya can still sign up for the next one if Sony wants to continue with this cast as implied.
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This is the other side of the coin I considered as well...
Sony will be back at the table after Morbius bombs.
Mordo's clearly been slacking as there were quite a few sorcerer's at the Endgame final battle.
Reading the posts in this thread makes me remember around this time last year when James Gunn got fired and people were going on about how he'd never get rehired, Disney management statements made it sound like he was never coming back, that GoTG 3 would never happen...and then he did get rehired for GoTG 3 after all.
I think they'll continue talking in private as rumored and come to a new agreement in several months. I feel like the way the first two movies were written, they made it practically impossible for Sony to continue on their own with that version without it becoming a gigantic mess, because the backstory is so tied to other MCU characters and events. And Sony can't legally reference those in the third movie if the split sticks. Not even by saying "that guy in the iron suit's friend" or "that eyepatch spy guy" or something.
I think they'll continue talking in private as rumored and come to a new agreement in several months. I feel like the way the first two movies were written, they made it practically impossible for Sony to continue on their own with that version without it becoming a gigantic mess, because the backstory is so tied to other MCU characters and events. And Sony can't legally reference those in the third movie if the split sticks. Not even by saying "that guy in the iron suit's friend" or "that eyepatch spy guy" or something.
So you think Morbius and Venom are equatable characters? Or that Tom Hardy and Jared Leto are comparable box office draws?
Who said Venom would bomb? EVERYONE knows Venom.
Nobody knows Morbius. Sony thinking that every Spidey character is going to have the same success as arguably his most popular villain is crazy.
Please be true. I wanna see Black Bolt on the big screen. He'll get nerfed for sure but dude should still be one of the most powerful people on earth.
There's a big difference between choosing a director and choosing to share a IP worth billions of dollars and deciding how to split the proceeds.
Anything can happen, but Gunn getting his job back doesn't have much bearing on how likely Disney and Sony are to come to terms.
It really wouldn't be all that difficult for Sony to write a Spiderman movie that doesn't reference the MCU characters.
It would be pretty difficult if it's in semi-continuity with Homecoming and FFH. By no means impossible if that's really the course Sony is dead-set on taking, but those two films were so immersed in broader MCU continuity, characters, and world-building that I don't see how they could proceed without a roomful of Sony and Disney lawyers first sitting down to determine which elements Sony can and can't retain.
Only dumb people thought the most popular Spidey Villain and one of Marvel's famous anti-heroes wouldn't make bank.
Morbius isn't a popular character, but the right vision can make a hit out of anything.
We live in a world where Aquaman is the earningest Justice League movie and Captain Marvel pulled in over 1 Billion despite most viewers having no prior engagement with the character.
It would be silly to assume Morbius would reach close to Venoms gross, but it will likely be even cheaper to produce. It won't need to mimic Venom's success in order to be successful.
Whether or not Sony has a good vision for a Morbius movie remains to be seen.
i think some think that because she is tech a new char she falls into the area of sony can not use her and marvel can not use her
Yeah, we just thought it wouldn't be good and weren't wrong.
An unidentified corpse wearing EDITH glasses to be found
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Venom killing the box office wasnt some obvious conclusion - especially not given the fact that it had no ties to Spiderman.
And you can't owe it am to the character's popularly. Venom outperformed a Justice League.
The prophet John Campea said that Sony would yank Spider-man from the MCU if Venom bombed, but keep him in the MCU if Venom was a success. Using that rationale you want Morbius to be a success.
But we already know the opposite to be true, so?
Yeah, it was a brainfart on my part, but my worry stems from how this messes with her character development.
I don't exactly trust Avi Arad, Tom Rothman, et al. to handle the creative development of her character well. I know they won't be writing the script, but their creative oversight worries me.
People's definition of bombing and success is distorted by the MCU.
Ant-Man after 2 movies is clearly the least popular solo MCU character, but it wasn't a bomb, it's still a successful entry, just not in the same vein as other solo entries. I feel like Morbius will be the same thing. Assuming it's half way coherent, it can still be successful without remotely getting close to Venom's gross.
That's where that Lobot scene was from. I remember either Watts or Feige talking about the scene pre-release. Must've been cut after the interview or they just remembered it from the movie.
Yeah Antman movies make Disney $100 million per flick. The old Spidey-MCU deal made Disney $44 million and $55 million for Homecoming & Far From Home respectively. If people can't see this and understand why they'd rather focus on exposing people to their other obscure licenses they hold rather than continuing with the old deal THIS should spell it out.
These are the numbers people should be looking at when trying to figure out what Studios want and expect of these films and any related deals. Profits
"Success" is, as much as anything else, a measure of how much profit a film can bring. Sony sees Disney making bank off of characters people never cared about. And Sony thinking they can do it too if the get the right team and the right budget.
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I mean, I don't necessarily disagree with most of this post, but I'm not quite confident that an Avi Arad quality film about a character that has less mindshare than Venom is going to break $125-150 million.
It's going to need to be decent. Because MIB was more relevant and had two MCU stars and was under that.
And this was before Spider-Man was pulled so it probably won't have Spider-Man references.
Yeah, that footage that I saw snippets of on Twitter was fucking excellent, and should've been in the movie, would've helped with the pacing issues that I had with it in the first actThat restaurant scene is peak Spidey. Peak Spidey in the MCu. PEAK SPIDEY GUYS. WE PEAKED. IT'S DONE.
If this Spidey situation wasn't happening right now and they had the extended cut in Dolby/IMAX theaters I probably would've gone back to see it a second time
I actually don't know what I'm more mad about, that we got that cut as opposed to removing something like some of the Ned/Betty boredom, or that we'll never see this exact iteration of Spider-Man again :(
I'm keeping hope alive (for now), but yeah, in full agreement with the first part of your comment
They can have Iron Man
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