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Marvel Cinematic Universe | We had a good run, and now it's over
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In my head Sony can easily make this Spider-Man work outside the MCU. They don't really need to reference anything that is strictly MCU. His identity is out there and they can build a movie around this whole concept without ever mentioning Mysterio. Just play it straight, he's open it with him being hunted by Scorpion, mix some JJJ in there, get away and introduce a new villain. Forget Tony Stark, forget Quentin Beck, forget the Skrulls. Hell, use Kraven (or Venom) as the big villain and you got a soup brewing, sprinkle the supporting characters in there. No, I'm not writing a script here, but I don't see why it would be so hard to ignore all things MCU in the third standalone Spidey. Sure Pete's dealing with the aftermath of Tony, and becoming his own responsible hero, but they can still play with that without ever referencing what came before. Look to the future.
I'm sure audiences will love that.
I mean ignoring previously stablished build up worked wonders for GOT right?
I'm just saying, as much as he was ingrained in the MCU, it's not impossible to make it work. Some people make it sound like it's not an option. And who's to say the GA won't love it if it's the same cast and has the same vibe. People grew in love with Tom Holland Spider-Man first and foremost.
I don't think people have said it's totally not an option, it can work, it just doesn't mean it's the best option or that they should.
It's got a favorable release date in the summer. I'm assuming they'll make a reference to Venom in the trailer. The trailer will have the Marvel logo. All it needs is to be competent and it probably won't do too poorly.
It's from the writers who made Dracula Untold. That film was panned critically and released in the fall and made $216mm against a $70mm budget. I'd say $400mm globally wouldn't be shocking if it's a better movie. But again, who knows how the quality will be.
I was wondering why they decided on two films instead of 3 in the original deal when it's clearly meant to be a trilogy. I don't want to assume Disney structured it that way to incentivize Sony to come back to the table. Ballsy move if so I feel.
Even if they made it work, I still wouldn't give much of a shit if Spidey is relegated to a world that he shares with Jared Leto. I know a ton of people liked Venom, but I personally hated it.
Maybe something happens, but it's been awfully quiet.
Haha, I agree with you. When all is said and done I would have been perfectly fine with the deal remaining instead of breaking down.
It's better quiet. Sony never shuts up when they got shit going.
Remember how they paraded Hardy before the film?
This is my thing. Building a story around Parker being exposed doesn't really need a Shield tie in, and Tony's dead. The only MCU thread that can't be built upon is Happy's relationship with Aunt May.
The problem with GOT is that all of the characters the characters behaviors and decisions stopped following their development arcs - the writers were rushing to hit certain plot points and didn't make time to get to them in a way that made sense for the characters they'd been portraying.
There's nothing preventing them from continuing Peter's arc without MCU characters. In fact, they've got the perfect setup to have him dealing with social isolation. And of course, the villain would get a healthy amount of time to develop as well. As long as the arcs are organic and not forced like GOT, theyd be fine
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That's just it though. If it's competent. And right now I'm not convinced that is the case.
The Marvel logo doesn't save everything. It certainly didn't save Dark Phoenix.
Release date being good doesn't necessarily help. If audiences are responsive to it, it will give a better shot a good legs.
But we're banking on the idea that it's competent and that audiences will care enough.
I'll give you the Venom reference. But I'm not so sure that's going to be enough. It's going to come down to if audiences are invested enough in Venom's world if this isn't looking good.
I just don't have a good feeling about Morbius. I don't think Leto is going to help matters either. Matt Smith may help, but I don't know.
I just know between the two Sony Spider-Man films, I knew Spider-Verse was going to be the better one to watch. I'm getting a gut feeling again that Morbius isn't going to be that
But hey. I'd love to be proven wrong.
If the next Minions bombs I will exit attempting to guess box office results for films because I have bombed hard this year lol.
Black Widow and Eternals I keep going back and forth on. I feel Ant Man 2 for BW (fan service movie of a very attractive actress but she's had some bombs) and Guardians for Eternals (that cast) make sense but IDK.
Minions I keep going back and forth on. I honestly don't know. I mean, Despicable Me 3 did a billion at the box office, so I think interest is still there for that franchise. And honestly, looking at SLOP 2's legs, it could have done way worse considering the opening. I think Minions 2 can probably pull at least $200 Million.
I agree on your prediction for BW and Eternals if that makes you feel better. And I was pretty confident Ant-Man 2 was not going to be under $200 Million.
I have a feeling this movie is going to be pretty freaky
edit: another thing interesting about infinity is that there is a difference between infinite infinity and finite infinity. For example counting every single number is infinite infinity because it has no start nor end and goes forever. Compare this to counting all the numbers between 1 and 2, sure it goes on for ever but It has a start and finish meaning it's finite infinity.
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Aw man Matt Smith's going to be in Morbius? I'd really like to see him in something... y'know... good. He's also the only New Doctor apart from Joide missing from the MCU.
This was just on ESPN College Gameday, LOL
He has a sign he's going to hold up in the NC/SC game that just started.
It actually had a lower per theatre average than last week lol
so for a huge re-expansion, new marketing and a holiday weekend that's not really that great
That's a bigger percentage increase than Endgame's rerelease.
For a day extra, sure. Else it's just 153% to Endgame's 207%.
How is wegotthiscovered's track record?
lol
I muted them and MCU Direct on Twitter since they run a lot of their articles
All MCU Direct does is run WGTC articles because they pay them too.
I heard Becca saw Sony and Marvel kissing during third period.
Wouldn't that technically mean this week if they were reporting on it over the weekend?
No this came out today.
They weren't going to do anything over D23 Expo week or last week due to the holiday this weekend. So all that WGTC bullshit of a seven-movie deal was just crap made up by a YouTube channel called Lords of the Long Box who just makes up bullshit or reads things on DanielRPK's Patreon and claims it as theirs.
Outside of Cinderella in February, Masters of the Universe in March and Hotel Transylvania 4 in December, Sony's 2021 slate is pretty open. So I'd assume if they're planning Spider-Man 3 and/or Kraven for 2021, they'd likely have to get a new deal in the coming months (especially if Kraven's script still calls for Spider-Man).
Aww man I hope the MCU deal continues. And I hope it's real soon, because there's no need for it to take so long to get dealt with. It seems so simple!
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