That's what I've been saying, the two aforementioned MCU films round out his existing contract.Especially if the two upcoming MCU movies fulfill his current contract.
Tom played this extremely smart, especially by playing nice with PR.
That's what I've been saying, the two aforementioned MCU films round out his existing contract.Especially if the two upcoming MCU movies fulfill his current contract.
Tom played this extremely smart, especially by playing nice with PR.
Warner Bros. Mortal Kombat is going to be phenomenal!!I wonder when we'll get our first "good" (I'll quantify "good" by a Certified Fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes) live-action video game movie
Sony's Jumanji and Dora are both certified fresh, and Uncharted will certainly be in the vein of those, but those actions from Rothman are definitely concerning
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
BEST PICTURE
Kevin Feige, p.g.a.
BEST DIRECTOR
Anthony and Joe Russo
BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
Christopher Markus &
Stephen McFeely
BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
Trent Opaloch
BEST FILM EDITING
Jeffrey Ford, ACE
Matthew Schmidt
BEST PRODUCTION DESIGN
Production Designer
Charles Wood
Set Decorator
Tonja Schurmann
BEST COSTUME DESIGN
Judianna Makovsky
BEST MAKEUP & HAIRSTYLING
John Blake
Janine Thompson
Brian Sipe
BEST SOUND MIXING
Tom Johnson
Juan Peralta
John Pritchett, CAS
BEST SOUND EDITING
Shannon Mills
Daniel Laurie
BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
Dan Deleeuw
Matt Aitken
Russell Earl
Dan Sudick
BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
Alan Silvestri
RDJ didn't do anything Best Actor worthy in that movie.
Hemsworth did though.
Nah. Why wouldn't Sony want to continue using Spider-Man in both their universe and the MCU?The Spider-Man3 end credits is totally going be him getting "spider-versed" out of the MCU and into Sony's isn't it?
Nah. Why wouldn't Sony want to continue using Spider-Man in both their universe and the MCU?
Spider-Man is a powerful icon and hero whose story crosses all ages and audiences around the globe. He also happens to be the only hero with the superpower to cross cinematic universes, so as Sony continues to develop their own Spidey-verse you never know what surprises the future might hold.
As of now, there's no room on Tom's contract for Sony-only movie appearances. That would have to be renegotiated, especially since there's still one other MCU film before all parties involved would return to the negotiation table (the current deal will use up the existing contract with Tom). And given Tom's actions that led to this current deal, he'll likely hinge the renewal of his contract on the continuation of the sharing arrangement.That door would still be open. He'd presumably be able to move back and forth. they'd use the spider-verse to explain why the events in sony's movies don't influence the MCU and vice-versa.
I'm just speculating based on Feige's comment
The universes will most definitely remain separate and distinct, but Spider-Man might be crossing over periodically if the stars align.
Ahhh okay, you mean like that.That door would still be open. He'd presumably be able to move back and forth. they'd use the spider-verse to explain why the events in sony's movies don't influence the MCU and vice-versa.
Perhaps an adapted screenplay nomination? I don't know. The rest? Nah.So, outside the costume, editing, and other technical awards - anyone feel confident enough to state if Endgame will get noms for picture, direction, and screenplay?
I think it's getting screenplay (and legit deserves a serious shot at the win too). Since Oscars expanded the Best Picture category years ago to recognize more popular films, I think it could get the BP nom - no way it's winning though. The Russos, alas, will be left out in the cold.
True, so that's why I don't think they'll explain it. They won't have to. Sony-only characters just won't appear in MCU movies. And I don't think just loaning someone to Sony whose job is quality control will work. Why would Sony want that? Who pays for that? Would they be obligated to listen to that person (so they relinquish creative control)? Who would that person be? Would Feige be involved? My guess is that somewhere in the talks they did try to get Feige involved in the Sony-verse, but that didn't work out.Explaining jumping between "cinematic universe" is just going to be a headache. Loan someone to Sony who's entire job is quality control.
I think that's how it should work out. Sometimes Spider-Man will interact with Avengers characters, other times he'll do his own thing with his ordinary villians. Doesn't require too much explanation.True, so that's why I don't think they'll explain it. They won't have to. Sony-only characters just won't appear in MCU movies. And I don't think just loaning someone to Sony whose job is quality control will work. Why would Sony want that? Who pays for that? Would they be obligated to listen to that person (so they relinquish creative control)? Who would that person be? Would Feige be involved? My guess is that somewhere in the talks they did try to get Feige involved in the Sony-verse, but that didn't work out.
As of now, there's no room on Tom's contract for Sony-only movie appearances. That would have to be renegotiated, especially since there's still one other MCU film before all parties involved would return to the negotiation table (the current deal will use up the existing contract with Tom). And given Tom's actions that led to this current deal, he'll likely hinge the renewal of his contract on the continuation of the sharing arrangement.
But assuming that everything is worked out, I'd imagine that it'll be as you described.
Ahhh okay, you mean like that.
I still think it'll just mean that Spider-Man will also guest in the Sony Spidey-verse, which simply exists in the same world as Spider-Man (as in, it's not a different universe in the movies). It will not get referenced in the MCU, but it will be connected via Spider-Man himself, who lives in both the MCU and the Sony universe. I don't think they need to frame the Sony-verse as a different dimension/universe/whatever. However, as I say all this.. however they choose to do it, if Spider-Man also encounters Venom, Morbius, and whoever, it'll be odd if he won't reference that in his solo movies. And if he will reference that.. then the MCU and the Sony-verse will be pretty closely related..
All in all, it'll be a pretty odd situation if Sony will get Tom Holland in one of their Spidey-verse movies, while also continuing the deal with Disney/Marvel Studios.
Perhaps an adapted screenplay nomination? I don't know. The rest? Nah.
I hope it'll get some recognition for its (and IW's) visual effects, for the work on Thanos, Smart Hulk, combined with simply the gigantic amount of VFX that's in there.
At this point, isn't it just easier for it to be a Marvel movie? Sony is the only other studio that produces films with Marvel characters at this point now that Fox has been absorbed.
Explaining jumping between "cinematic universe" is just going to be a headache. Loan someone to Sony who's entire job is quality control.
But if Sony ends up walking away after this, I wouldn't be surprised if Tom doesn't renew his contract. Like I said, the news that came out today basically confirmed my suspicions that he'll probably use his contract renewal as a bargaining chip to ensure that Spider-Man stays in the MCU in the long-term.Yeah I think this deal is setup so that if the vent come to an agreement as terms end, they'll be able to pull neatly pull spidey out of the MCU with a possibly of bringing him back later.
I think that's how it should work out. Sometimes Spider-Man will interact with Avengers characters, other times he'll do his own thing with his ordinary villians. Doesn't require too much explanation.
Sony wants 3 movies every two years. By the agreement that was made public, Feige (and/or some other dude, can't remember his name) have to receive drafts, first cuts, final cuts, etc. of all Sony's movies. Feige even weighed in on ASM2.
Given there's no way Feige can balance the MCU, his Star Wars entry and Sony's Universe, Marvel lending Sony someone focused on ensuring their films aren't stupid and somewhat won't wreck MCU cannon makes too much sense. One report stated Disney wanted a cut on Sony's films as well. I feel like Sony paying his salary would be far more agreeable and not cut into their bottom line.
But if Sony ends up walking away after this, I wouldn't be surprised if Tom doesn't renew his contract. Like I said, the news that came out today basically confirmed my suspicions that he'll probably use his contract renewal as a bargaining chip to ensure that Spider-Man stays in the MCU in the long-term.
I'm not so sure about that, especially considering that he moved Heaven & Earth to keep this sharing arrangement going.Tom's gonna renew the contract either
I bet Sony and Marvel will put a nice bow on th Homecoming trilogy with hist next 2 appearances, so fans won't be salty if they split for good, but the door will be open for the possibility of a lengthy stay like the first deal or crossover events.
I'm trying to think of the best way for both parties to continue this partnership long-term in an amicable manner.Then Sony might as well hire such a person. Makes no sense for a Marvel employee to be 100% focused on Spiderverse to ensure Sony doesn't shit the bed and all Marvel gets in return is the guy's salary is paid. I mean think about it, would you make that deal if you were in charge of Marvel? Or would you want something else in return from Sony? If Sony doesn't want to give anything else, would you rather have that person 100% focused on some MCU stuff where you are getting all the proceeds or "loan" him/her out where their salary are paid but you get nothing, so your net is zero and you still have to pay that person's benefits? I know I sure as hell wouldn't sign off on that without getting something in return; and no, having my employee's salary paid for is something I would scoff at.
Also, as you know, per the contract Marvel execs can critic the draft and movie all they want, but Sony has ultimate creative control and - just like in Amazing 2 - they can ignore what Feige and friends are saying.
I'm not so sure about that, especially considering that he moved Heaven & Earth to keep this sharing arrangement going.
"Who knows what the future holds? But all I know is that I'm going to continue playing Spider-Man and having the time of my life. It's going to be so fun, however we choose to do it. The future for Spider-Man will be different, but it will be equally as awesome and amazing, and we'll find new ways to make it even cooler."
That's one of the most sound things I've heard about the situation. The Spider-verse is big enough for its own thing and not be involved with MCU isn't it?If Sony can get someone with an iota of intelligence to map out their universe from Marvel Studios with Feige's blessing, Marvel can have Spider-Man for crossover events and Sony only shares profits with them for the main solo Spider-Man films, I don't know how this isn't the best way forward for both corporations and fans.
Sony won't sell Spidey so Disney needs to buy Sony completely. :pCan DIsney just completely buy back Spidey please?
Another Spidey movie with Sony involved is like a new fresh pair of shoes with a damn rock in it.
After the next 2 mcu appearances we'll just be back here again waiting for them to either pull the plug or - if we're lucky - extend it once again.
Yeah, nah.Imagine if after the last movie in the current contract Spidey went off to Sony's universe and then a few years later he'd come back to the MCU older and with a lot more experience. That would be pretty cool.
And I agree. I'm just trying to play with the cards we've been dealt.Yeah, nah.
Sony's lack of understanding of the IP, the lack of willingness to take risks, micro-management of decision-making and writing by committee, can only result in degradation of the Spider-man and MCU brand.
There is a legal loophole and some precedent that would allow Disney to re-acquire the rights but it involves prolonged litigation, which means years of injunctions on the IP. I am sure Sony is aware of this, too.Can DIsney just completely buy back Spidey please?
Another Spidey movie with Sony involved is like a new fresh pair of shoes with a damn rock in it.
After the next 2 mcu appearances we'll just be back here again waiting for them to either pull the plug or - if we're lucky - extend it once again.
But I'm not sure if Riri would have access to said tech, unless Shuri opened a Wakandan Research Facility in Chicago.As I said in the comic thread:
Shuri combining IM and Wakanda technology makes you go..."Hmmm, Ironheart?"
Just move her to Oakland, problem solved.But I'm not sure if Riri would have access to said tech, unless Shuri opened a Wakandan Research Facility in Chicago.
Fair point, though MIT is farther away from Oakland than even it from Chicago.
If anything, the last two issues of Ironheart proved why that shouldn't happen.
The best part of doing disk + digital is that you can still resell the code inside the case and maintain access on VUDU/MA. :)My copy of Spider-Man: Far From Home arrived from Vudu/Walmart. Tried out the Disc + Digital option for the first time ever through Vudu. I wish the discs had the IMAX version like FandangoNOW does. At least I have multiple watching options.
Yeah, I guess that's nice. I sent my code to a friend since he and his brothers wanted to see it.The best part of doing disk + digital is that you can still resell the code inside the case and maintain access on VUDU/MA. :)
Either way you essentially get 2 digital copes + blu ray and UHD for the same price. Not a bad deal. I always sell them since it brings down my cost from $27 to $17 if I sell the second code for $10.Yeah, I guess that's nice. I sent my code to a friend since he and his brothers wanted to see it.