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The MetalEra |OT| We're not in the Stone Age anymore

Facism

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Oct 25, 2017
634
The lineup for that is always fucking crazy. I wish I could go in my lifetime, but alas I'm not even on the right continent.
That's a shame. Friday was dreadful because of the intense rain, otherwise best festival I've been to in a long time. Most chill campsite and organisation I've experienced. People treated like adults. Most money I've spent on arena beers despite the policy of allowing people to bring their own alcohol into the arena.
 

Dangerblade

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Oct 25, 2017
978
United Kingdom
That's a shame. Friday was dreadful because of the intense rain, otherwise best festival I've been to in a long time. Most chill campsite and organisation I've experienced. People treated like adults. Most money I've spent on arena beers despite the policy of allowing people to bring their own alcohol into the arena.
Yeah ATG is amazing. I went in 2017, did the VIP package and stood on stage in the pissing down rain as Converge played an incredible set in front of me. Bliss.
 

coma

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Oct 28, 2017
730
Its funny because I see black metal as an increasingly popular genre, so many bands using it as a base ingredient for their sound.
For sure. I think it's possible for people to take elements of it and make something interesting. In the same way that there seems to be increasingly more bands influenced by Mortician, but I'm not going to listen to Mortician.

Do you mean the mid-80s to late-80s or the early 90s (i.e., first wave or second wave)?
When someone refers to "black metal," I think it's generally pretty clear what they're talking about. The idea of retroactively assigning influential bands to being some first wave of the genre has always been a bit silly to me.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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so cynic is re-releasing traced in air which is basically removing tymon kruidenier's vocals... ... and supposedly new malone bass riffs


but I think I'm going to pass on this one....
 

Facism

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Oct 25, 2017
634
Yeah ATG is amazing. I went in 2017, did the VIP package and stood on stage in the pissing down rain as Converge played an incredible set in front of me. Bliss.
yeh buying a ticket for 2020. It's left a great impression on me.

Also it was a lot of fun helping people to bang their heads to Meshuggah lol. So many people confused by the rhythms.
 

selfReg

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Oct 26, 2017
1,167
discussion of "waves" is an interesting exercise. I think it's totally fine to look for links to a scene that weren't necessarily part of the most recognizable movement.

I think it makes more sense to say you just don't like black metal, period, rather than try to imply that it's inherently gimmicky. It's certainly no more gimmicky than goregrind or slam lol.
 

coma

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Oct 28, 2017
730
I have no problem with bands that have a "gimmick." Basically all bands have some form of image they're projecting, to varying degrees. Though I do find it cringey when bands take it too seriously, regardless of genre.
 

selfReg

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Oct 26, 2017
1,167
black metal is image heavy, campy, and not so self aware a lot of the time, sure. I still can't use that as an objective knock on it. At the end of the day, if an album is great it will completely transcend all that superficial stuff.
 

Doomshine

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Oct 30, 2017
226
I think you'll find that a lot of bands with a "dark" image and lyrics don't actually take themselves that seriously.
 

selfReg

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Oct 26, 2017
1,167

Ignivomous (AUS) - Death Transmutation

their third LP was announced recently by NWN, so I'm recommending this beast. Easily one of the best bands to follow the path of Incantation.
 

hobblygobbly

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Oct 25, 2017
2,291
Baden-Württemberg
i recommend this band from my home city in germany, been following them since their first EP long ago. they got 2 albums out now. Lunar Shadows

they have got pretty popular in metal scene here in germany last year since they got big features in all the major local metal mags.

really nice guitaring harmonies







 
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Shane

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Oct 25, 2017
1,142
No other comments on the Twlight Force album from the power metal fans? It's damn incredible.
 

XShagrath

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Oct 25, 2017
586
No other comments on the Twlight Force album from the power metal fans? It's damn incredible.
I haven't listened to it yet. I was a bit turned off by their last album, and labeled it "Disney metal." They put on a good show when I saw them at ProgPower a couple years ago, so maybe I should give the new album a shot.
 
Oct 29, 2017
1,932
Minnesota
No other comments on the Twlight Force album from the power metal fans? It's damn incredible.
The few songs I've heard I really don't like. I find the new singer a bit bland, and instrumentally it just isn't doing anything for me. Which is a shame because i love power metal and have been spinning the new Avantasia and Beast in Black albums pretty regularly all year.
 

Valkyr

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Oct 26, 2017
400
Southern Lord mentioned they had copies of Xasthur's Nocturnal Poisoning back in stock so I picked up a copy. Haven't been buying a ton of records lately but when I do, it's always black metal lol. Pretty proud of my collection at this point. Nothing too obscure I don't think but I do have a lot of my favorites.

I hadn't listened to Nocturnal Poisoning in a while but man it it still good as hell. Pretty much the first 5 Xasthur records are all amazing. Basically everything up through Subliminal Genocide.

that title track is so good
 

Shane

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Oct 25, 2017
1,142
The few songs I've heard I really don't like. I find the new singer a bit bland, and instrumentally it just isn't doing anything for me. Which is a shame because i love power metal and have been spinning the new Avantasia and Beast in Black albums pretty regularly all year.
Interesting. I think Conti sounds awesome on vocals, and it's certainly their best produced album by a mile, such a big sound.
 

selfReg

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Oct 26, 2017
1,167
Southern Lord mentioned they had copies of Xasthur's Nocturnal Poisoning back in stock so I picked up a copy. Haven't been buying a ton of records lately but when I do, it's always black metal lol. Pretty proud of my collection at this point. Nothing too obscure I don't think but I do have a lot of my favorites.

I hadn't listened to Nocturnal Poisoning in a while but man it it still good as hell. Pretty much the first 5 Xasthur records are all amazing. Basically everything up through Subliminal Genocide.

that title track is so good
nize. I saw that a couple other early albums were reissued recently by this new label called Oracular Visions, so definitely a good time to scoop some Xasthur.
 

Saften

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Oct 26, 2017
149
Song of the Day:

Van Canto - Kings of Metal

I just can't get enough of the ridiculousness of this song. I sometimes catch myself muttering: "neme neme neme nemeWAAAAAAAR", to myself.
 

Skade

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Oct 28, 2017
3,340
Song of the Day:

Van Canto - Kings of Metal

I just can't get enough of the ridiculousness of this song. I sometimes catch myself muttering: "neme neme neme nemeWAAAAAAAR", to myself.
Yeah, Van Canto makes very fun covers. Their original stuff aren't really anything memorable but i really like their covers.
 

selfReg

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Oct 26, 2017
1,167

so I got my interface in and I just started messing around with Reaper. I have no idea what I'm doing so far but I think I came up with a decent mix at the very least. This is a cover of a Departure Chandelier song and it is appropriately blown out.
 

Valkyr

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Oct 26, 2017
400

so I got my interface in and I just started messing around with Reaper. I have no idea what I'm doing so far but I think I came up with a decent mix at the very least. This is a cover of a Departure Chandelier song and it is appropriately blown out.
Very nice. Sounds awesome. What do you use for drums? I've messed around a very small amount with home recording but it was basically hydrogen for the drum machine and audacity for recording everything.

New Alcest is great:

I dig it. Wasn't too into Kodama but I like the darker vibe here. Darker for Alcest anyway.
 

selfReg

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Oct 26, 2017
1,167
Very nice. Sounds awesome. What do you use for drums? I've messed around a very small amount with home recording but it was basically hydrogen for the drum machine and audacity for recording everything.
cheers. Yeah I'm running 4 SM57 knockoffs to my interface basically. Kick and snare in the center of the stereo image, and two overheads hard panned. Like I said I'm using Reaper as my DAW which in combination with the interface completely changes everything for me. I was using Audacity for years, too and I never learned how to multi track for drum mixes until recently. You should seriously download Reaper. It's fully functional during its trial period of 60 days and a personal license is like 60 bucks. The ability to use compression plugins alone is amazing.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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one of the longest running jokes in the tech death genre
if it exists he should at least pull an into the moat and release it even if he isn't going to support it
 

Morrigan

Armoring
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Oct 24, 2017
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i recommend this band from my home city in germany, been following them since their first EP long ago. they got 2 albums out now. Lunar Shadows

they have got pretty popular in metal scene here in germany last year since they got big features in all the major local metal mags.

really nice guitaring harmonies







Decent! But not really mindblowing so far. Just competent heavy metal (which is still better than 100% of -core stuff lol), but I wish they were a bit more... catchy or memorable.
 

Zelenogorsk

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Mar 1, 2018
1,011
No other comments on the Twlight Force album from the power metal fans? It's damn incredible.
Didn't realize it was out until yesterday so I just bought it, will have more time to listen over the weekend but the production already sounds better than Heroes of Mighty Magic and Conti sounds great on the title track.

Majestica's epic Above the Sky is still my #1 power metal album of the year for now.
 

DNgamers

Member
Oct 25, 2017
201
Germany
Who has heard of this? It's from 1997 and it's a ride! Today you would call it early djent if you want or just jazzy experimental metal. I listened to this bastard a few times without fully getting it but it finally clicked when I blasted it through my earphones on a bike trip though nature.

If you don't have the patience just listen to the solo at 9:50 :)