The judge's comment is absolutely hilarious. Using just pure logic to debunk a conspiracy theory that only wasted taxpayers' money.
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The judge's comment is absolutely hilarious. Using just pure logic to debunk a conspiracy theory that only wasted taxpayers' money.
Nice to see some common sense.
Doesn't make any sense for Microsoft to remove the game from 70% of the user base.
They would just be destroying the value and power of the COD brand and throwing away hundreds of millions of dollars. To have an estimated 3% of PlayStation users buy an Xbox instead?
The best of both worlds approach is to try and grow Xbox by having it free on game pass for the few willing to switch or add an Xbox alongside their PS5.
While also making hundreds of millions of dollars from the players who would just replace it with another game.
Doesn't make any sense for Microsoft to remove the game from 70% of the user base.
They would just be destroying the value and power of the COD brand and throwing away hundreds of millions of dollars. To have an estimated 3% of PlayStation users buy an Xbox instead?
The best of both worlds approach is to try and grow Xbox by having it free on game pass for the few willing to switch or add an Xbox alongside their PS5.
While also making hundreds of millions of dollars from the players who would just replace it with another game.
To lose is to struggle and grow. Gamers must lose to rise up.
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This is kinda funny considering it seemed like they just copy/pasted a few of FTC's arguments and reworded it.
And that's why Microsoft will just close if the CMA approves it and dare the FTC to file an injunction.
Yea it's pretty funny that they spent all this money to unintentionally hurt the FTC's case by getting the FTC's arguments publicly shot down by a judge.
Maybe they were MS plants all along.../s
"Man that court isn't hostile for discussion all they do is dogpile you"
I'm not sure it matters one way or the other.
MS would be stupid to remove COD from PS, as they'd risk destroying the franchise (as masses of gamers move on to the New Default Competitive Multiplayer FPS) which would be a catastrophic waste of $40m. Better to just (1) run obnoxious "Microsoft Games Studios Presents" prerolls in front of every COD advertisement and boot-up screen, and (2) let the gaming public assume that the game will be best on Xbox platforms and speculate as to how long it will last on Playstation such that for any serious diehards they'll move over anyways.
And the above situation will happen whether or not Xbox is forced to sign a deal with Playstation. (Although obviously more immediate concern about the future of COD on Playstation if there's no 10-year contract.) So in the end, I don't see a huge difference whether the 10-year deal is signed or not.
If CoD is free on XGP and 80€ on PS, more than 3% will do the switch.
Who gave that 3% number? A study ordered by MS?
Hope this deal het through and we are finally done with this.
Sony knows it makes no sense for Microsoft to remove COD from playstation. Like Steam, Sony doesn't need to sign a contract, because MS is going to do what makes the most sense financially.
So Jimmy is really in a Win-Win situation. Either the deal gets blocked and MS doesn't get the benefit of owning ABK. Or the deal gets passed w/ remedies, and PS maintains access to COD.
There's a lot of cost associated with switching, giving up your ties to the PlayStation ecosystem, your access to playstation exclusives, and buying a new console. Also, While Gamepass would provide access to more games- it's not cheaper than simply buying COD if that's all you're interested in.
The 3% switching rate is from the CMAs own research. CADE and MS' research came to a similar conclusion.
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That was a brutal preview for the FTC's prospects outside of the administrative process.
You can thank our Competition and Markets Authority for that nice bit of info.
You can thank our Competition and Markets Authority for that nice bit of info.
Damn, I don't want FTC to drop their case. Im hoping for some leaks based Sony subpoenaed documents from FTC case.
How many people are switching and how many people will just have both consoles?
Good question. As far as I can tell, the entire 3% are considered "switching" even though 89% of them would still use PS as their main console.
I would guess the majority of gamers who play COD have absolutely no interest in what else Gamepass is offering, so it is still cheaper to buy the game rather than pay a subscription for a lot of people. I think anyone expecting GPU subs to explode once the deal is completed will be disappointed.
This is it...i have a friend ( and some that played on pc and ps5 and have similar thought), who own both, he sold the serie x because, he just want to play sony games and doesn't care about gamepass even if he thought it was a good service. He played a little of call of duty, but he will buy it, he doesn't care if it's not on a service.
They are all like this, even the one that played on pc, they played some pc gamepass, but mainly playing on ps5 for sony games. ( and because they love really sony).
I m in the same situation too, i play on serie x, pc and ps5 ( and deck). Sony games or ps + games on ps5 ( or the cheapest sale), xbox serie x for quick resume/gamepass games, pc for ray tracing games/dlss games compatible.
Even if the gamepass is still going to be good, i m still going to buy a playstation console for sony ip, and everyone that i know will do the same ( and call of duty will not change their mind, if the game is still on the console, this is good, but if it's not, they are not going to change brand for this).
I primarily play COD and gamepass has a lot of games. Do I play all of them? No, but there is always a bunch of "oh I heard about that but didn't want to drop money on it, I'll download it" going on.
It's pretty genius
Lol this judge is the real mvp. So funny. Seriously gamers, use some common sense.
Here is the napkin math on 3% using non-MS data
Hey guys, did someone thought of this crazy scenario in which Sony decides what I would consider a major clusterfuck : They reject COD on PlayStation as soon as this year or at the end of the marketing deal next year and offer a good alternative shooter from their own.
If this madness occurs, what would the implications be for Xbox in term of revenue, at short term and mid term ?
If this madness occurs, what would the implications be for Xbox in term of revenue, at short term and mid term ?
That wouldn't happen, no matter how high their confidence was in their own offering. It just wouldn't.
There's no reason for them to reject CoD on their platform though?
And if it was as easy as firing up a comparable FPS, they would. And noticeably they haven't offered anything in this space since KZ4 - I think?
Even if they had an extremely successful FPS in hand. COD releases a new game basically every year; its impossible to compete with something like that.
Any board member who purposely rejects garaunteed COD money for an unknown quantity out of I guess pride or spite would be promptly removed/ fired and replaced
Sony needs cod just as much as cod needs Sony
Cloud gaming remedy
In response to the Panel's questions, Microsoft has significantly expanded access to the Eligible Games. The proposed remedy is now a royalty-free worldwide license which is generally available to consumers and cloud gaming providers. The streaming right granted to consumers in respect of the Eligible Games is, therefore, "portable" in the sense that it can be used to access the game which the consumer has acquired on any Eligible Streaming Service (or more than one Eligible Streaming Service).
Games covered by the proposed remedy
The remedy will apply to the Activision titles for PC and associated content listed in the updated table below, including all past, current and future releases of such titles available on PC ("Eligible Games"). The list of Eligible Games includes [] Activision PC games [].101
It then lists ten redacted games so let's have some fun speculating 😅
What even is the benefit of Sony cutting off CoD prematurely? Even in a world where Sony is able to create an FPS ip to rival CoD in terms of sales and annual releases, wouldn't you rather get the best of both worlds? Even if CoD sales were to swing 90% everyone else 10% Sony, that's still 10% of a massive pie they bring in every year without having to do much of anything.
Edit; remedies around an independent adjudicator similar to their linked in acquisitions. Microsoft funded accessibility by the govs and the competing companies
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Water is wet.
Honestly, that's why all of this is a farce. Ideologues over here in the States. Horrible accountants across the pond. All they have done is force Microsoft to spend more money and time than should have been necessary. See what happens when you apply logic here? A case dismissed rather easily. Let's get this charade over and go on to something else.
crash of duty
call of quakey
spryo and milo go to school
sgt soap's wonderful world of warcrimes
halo infinite 2
toys for bob's killer instinct redux
god of war ragnarok
crash of duty 2
tony hark's skateboarding fun
I really like the idea of negating Sony's concerns about a "buggy" PlayStation version by having the release-copy of the game reviewed by a third party before release.
Looks like at the Remedy hearing, the CMA asked Microsoft:
- How their COD deal differs from the current COD deal that Sony has
- Would Microsoft give this deal to anyone in the console space (I guess this was before Nintendo and Nvidia signed?)
- Is 10 years enough
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So this is cloud gaming cross-purchase if I'm understanding this correctly?
Oh boy. There is no way the CMA isn't agreeing to this. MS has done such a thorough job and provided very reasonable and objective safe guards...even offering to pay the cost of monitoring ABKs output to ensure an even playing field on PS and Xbox post acquisition.
I wouldn't call it cross-purchase. Basically, if you own an ABK game on Steam, Battle.net, etc., you are given the right to stream it through any cloud gaming platform that offers the functionality to play your owned PC games (GeForce Now, Boosteroid, Shadow, etc.) it's honesty kind of wild how it was ever legal to take that away tbh.
I dont see why this should be a concern to CMA if they truly are concerned about access rather than publicity/marketing. The big changes for Sony will be loss of marketing rights and loss of exclusive features. both of these are pro-competition in the console market.
The main concern for MS at this point should be the lack of what I feel is a skeptical press corps in the UK. Its been pretty eye opening to see the journalistic coverage of this deal but especially in the UK and the EU; games journalism has a long way to go to get the journalism tag. Right now, its more of games advocacy more than anything else
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Guitar Hero: Age of Empires
Crash & Banjo at the X Games
World of Minecraft
Crackdown VS Prototype
Pitfall: Between Bandits
Dorito's Crash Course featuring Crash from Crash Bandicoot
Geometry Wars 4
Geometry Wars 5
Geometry Wars 6
CMA is concerned with whole parity, including exclusive features like Sony gets with COD right now. Microsoft being able to highlight all the exclusivity that Sony gets with COD right now, will probably help Microsoft's case IMO.
Lol. this is pretty funny. cmon MS lawyers, we are still waiting for true Gamepass access on Steam Deck. Not that the CMA would care