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In the Prequel Trilogy, Darth Sidious' entire Trade Federation BS was just a plot to get as the memes say, "UNLIMITED POWAH!!!!" in the Senate and rule as Emperor Palpatine. In doing so, he manipulates Anakin Skywalker into becoming his apprentice. He clowns the entire galaxy in here, to be fair. With the Skywalkers, though, he makes it clear who's the boss.

In the Original Trilogy, he mostly sits out until the final battle, and Luke isn't standing a chance. Anakin takes him from behind and down a hole, or so it seems...

In the Sequel Trilogy, Rey has spent three movies being notably OP to the point where she's on the same power level as Kylo due to that force-balance plotline. Due to her OP nature, Palpatine's Bloodline, on top of that. The ST's Skywalker loses each time. At the end, Skywalker is flung into a hole and he sacrifices himself to revive...another Palpatine. Who takes the Skywalker name in the end.

Who wins in the end?
 

boontobias

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Apr 14, 2018
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Palpatine survived the Skywalkers

The skywalkers all failed. The chosen one prophecy was untrue. Luke gave into fear in the end.

The original trilogies were pointless. In disney's pursuit of retelling the same damn story, they invalidated all the previous movies
 

BowieZ

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Rey Palpatine was trained by Luke Skywalker and Leia Organa Skywalker, and saved by Ben "Kylo" Solo Skywalker.

This training is so powerful that it causes Rey Palpatine to destroy her grandfather Sheev Palpatine.

Rey Palpatine becomes a de facto Skywalker.

Ergo, Skywalker beats Palpatine every time.
 

MadLaughter

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Oct 25, 2017
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The 'bloodline' of palpatine outlived the skywalkers.

The heart and morality of the skywalkers outlived palpatine.

The movie's premise is that heart > bloodline

So the Skywalkers win
 

scitek

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Oct 27, 2017
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Didn't Palpatine create Anakin, which, by extension, makes Rey and Anakin sort-of related?
 

Meows

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Rey beat Palpatine with Luke and Leia's lightsabers, they were an active part in taking him down.
 

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Really OP? I have been trying to have media blackout these past days. Thanks for spoiling Palpatine will be in Episode IX.

Sheesh.
 

Faddy

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Didn't Palpatine create Anakin, which, by extension, makes Rey and Anakin sort-of related?

It is kind of implied in RotS. Palpatine gives a whole speech about creating life with the Midichlorians.

There is also a question of whether he Force-impregnated Padme. Anakin comes back to Coruscant after being away for a good while on the Outer Rim but suddenly Padme has got a bun in the oven. Everyone just assumes Anakin is the father but if the Emperor can Force bone Shmi Skywalker why can't he do the same to Padme?
 

Lothars

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Oct 25, 2017
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Palpatine survived the Skywalkers

The skywalkers all failed. The chosen one prophecy was untrue. Luke gave into fear in the end.

The original trilogies were pointless. In disney's pursuit of retelling the same damn story, they invalidated all the previous movies

Sheev 100% won in the end and the ST literally tarnished anything good about the skywalker family and tarnished their accomplishments completely.
That's not even remotely true, did we watch the same movies?
 

Slayven

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This can be discussed in the OT or Spoiler threads
 
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