Hopped around a bit after finding that it was aluminum -- not sweat -- that was ruining all of my white tees, and eventually settled on zinc-based powder. Comfy, cheap, non-staining and I smell like I just came from the barber.
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The natural deodorant movement is an annoying and baseless trend. Long live aluminum antiperspirant.
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I think people like that would just freak the hell out if the really knew what processes were going in in their body
It's as if the fact we're carbon based lifeforms hasn't really sunk in either lol
I use antiperspirant or deodorant w/o issue. Doesn't bother me at all what people use.
What does bother me, however, are the people who are adamantly against using anything. These same people are often against showering daily- arguing that these attempts at hygiene are excessive and unnecessary. I've also heard some say that they don't smell 'bad', because the natural body odor is how people are supposed to smell.
I feel like, in a very cynical way, they are correct, but I also don't care because they smell offensively bad.
What does bother me, however, are the people who are adamantly against using anything. These same people are often against showering daily- arguing that these attempts at hygiene are excessive and unnecessary. I've also heard some say that they don't smell 'bad', because the natural body odor is how people are supposed to smell.
I feel like, in a very cynical way, they are correct, but I also don't care because they smell offensively bad.
Just wait until they find out about dihydrogen monoxide.
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Magnesium is a naturally occurring chemical and is used here by treating seaweed with lime. Activated charcoal repels toxins and can't be absorbed by your body. It's not like its ground down charcoal briquettes or something.
Literally none of what you wrote has any significance as an argument to me as a chemical and bioengineer.
"Natural" doesn't have anything to do with whether something is safe, normal, toxic, clean, healthy, effective, or any other words you can think of.
Speaking of universe...that iron in their blood didn't even come from our planet. Technically speaking, it's alien. Possibly even...ancient!
The natural deodorants are cheaper around me (small shops got em bad priced down atm) and the fact i haven't noticed them staining my shirts that other brands have. Unless people got some recommendations of brands they noticed don't stain shirts?
Wait until they find out Oxygen is (gasp!) a powerful oxidant!
I like sharing tidbits like that with my kids. Enough to go off on half baked speculation about stuff and things, but easier to kick back and acknowledge how cool it is.
"My vaccines have formaldehyde! They use that to embalm corpses!"
your body produces and uses formaldehyde in normal metabolism every day
Jeebus.
Hydrogen Cyanide is a naturally occurring chemical. Try rubbing that on your armpits for extra freshness.
The entire point of activated charcoal is to bind to things, not "repel" them like tiny Jedi force power chunks.
What "toxins," pray tell?
It's not a myth that there are studies showing a link between Alzheimer's and aluminum exposure. It is specifically recommended you be careful if you shave your armpits because the nicks and cuts expose the blood stream, and some of the drinking water studies were pretty alarming.
https://www.alzdiscovery.org/cognitive-vitality/blog/is-there-a-link-between-aluminum-and-alzheimers
Besides, the natural stuff works fine.
https://www.alzdiscovery.org/cognitive-vitality/blog/is-there-a-link-between-aluminum-and-alzheimers
Besides, the natural stuff works fine.
Cobra venom is clearly super healthy since it's all natural. Modern antibiotics on the other hand should clearly be banned
Guys, no one is going to tell you that you stink. Deodorants are not enough. Good luck getting through an NYC summer without smelling like shit at the end of the day. I never smell and i still wear anti antiperspirant because I hate wet arm pits and paranoid of stinking up the place.
i don't understand how people in NYC suffer through the heat. here in DC, we drive everywhere with AC and are usually in AC'ed buildings. do NYC people just smell like ass all day
As someone in the UK, I didn't know this was even a thing. If this just a US thing or am I living under some strange smelling rock?
I have really severe hyperhidrosis in my hands and feet and... well honestly everywhere.
I never use antiperspirants on my underarms because it ruins my shirts, but I do use other types of deodorant.
I have been into weight lifting lately and I have been using antiperspirant cream on my hands. It works WONDERS! Dries my hands out so I can actually get a decent grip on bar without is being super slippery.
Gamer Goo, Gamer Grip, I think the cream was originally for strippers when they were performing with a pole hahaha.
I never use antiperspirants on my underarms because it ruins my shirts, but I do use other types of deodorant.
I have been into weight lifting lately and I have been using antiperspirant cream on my hands. It works WONDERS! Dries my hands out so I can actually get a decent grip on bar without is being super slippery.
Gamer Goo, Gamer Grip, I think the cream was originally for strippers when they were performing with a pole hahaha.
Subway cars have AC, the train stations don't. Also many train stations have long tunnels, and elevators. Not to mention all the walking, broken ac in subway cars, buses, or cabs....it's a pain in the ass.
It literally says it's unclear and goes into detail about the various means of getting exposed to aluminum and the studies, if any, that have been done, and the results, which I have summarized. Or to put it another way:
For example, here are the findings re: drinking water:
And here are the findings re: anti-perspirant:
So, cool post, but next time let me handle describing my own links thanks.
Have you actually read the literature? Has anyone been able to consistently reproduce these results? What's the mechanism by which a toxic amount of aluminum can enter your bloodstream through your armpit?
Right, the studies are unclear, why did you say the studies show a link.
It doesn't need to be "toxic," which is re: poisoning yourself, to be risky re: Alzheimer's, and no study has been done on aluminum-based perspirants, so believe that it's safe at your own risk. Again, the natural products work fine, so why bother?
Using antiperspirant has allowed me to avoid embarrassing arm pit stains, which has enabled me to rise more quickly in my field of work, which has led to higher salaries and good health insurance, which I'll use to offset the irrevocable harm caused by using antiperspirant.
I feel like a citation is needed here.
I feel like a citation is needed here.
What part of the sentence "Some observational studies suggested a link between brain levels of aluminum and Alzheimer's disease [1]" is eluding you?
I dont really sweat since most days its Home - Car - Office - Car - Home and all of those places are Air conditioned.
The weekends where I might go out, I prefer to use a small amount of (VERY) mild smelling talcum powder. Does the job. Absorbs the sweat and I dont smell like deodorant.
The weekends where I might go out, I prefer to use a small amount of (VERY) mild smelling talcum powder. Does the job. Absorbs the sweat and I dont smell like deodorant.
They really don't for a lot of people. Saying "it shows a link" and leaving it at that is disingenuous, as it's almost certainly not grounds to actually alter your behavior.
The following sentence doesn't exactly cement anything:
Some observational studies suggested a link between brain levels of aluminum and Alzheimer's disease [1]. Since the association was found, many studies have investigated whether aluminum increases the risk for Alzheimer's. The findings are far from clear.
And the antiperspirant section leans toward no link, if anything:
Studies show that aluminum salts in antiperspirants are poorly absorbed by the body, and the little that is absorbed is flushed out by the kidneys [22]
As someone who rides public transportation, I think there are a lot of people out here who don't believe they smell as bad as they do. Nature just isn't getting the job done.
I
Will
NEVER
(actually I generally stick to chicken for cooking now but only occasionally go for shitty fast food burgers lol)
I'm not interested in natural deodorant specifically but I do use ones that are stain-free
I use the Crystal mineral salt stick. I like it because it works, only costs $5, and the label says it "Lasts a year," but I'm well into 2 years now. As long as it doesn't crack, it will last a long, long time; it's the size of a big marble. It also does double-duty healing shaving nicks.
Same.
Unless its balls hot outside I don't find I miss it. And most of the time if I am in that kind of weather I am dressed down and doing something active expecting to be sweaty.
I never found any antiperspirants that actually helped keep me any noticeably drier than just deodorants.
Isn't the stuff in antiperspirants what also cause pit stains on your clothes?
My fav as well.
Isn't the stuff in antiperspirants what also cause pit stains on your clothes?
Enjoy your cancer I suppose.
I stopped using aluminum based deodorant years ago (never antiperspirant) like Old Spice and switched to Arm and Hammer Essentials and have never looked back.
My fav as well.
That the study is looking into it but never got an actual conclusion.