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The new God of War was nearly set in Egypt, Cory chose Norse
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Yeah the goddess in GOW3 and some other ones. Would be awesome to revisit Greece again in the future to see how it looks like now.
I imagined it in my head and it would totally be something he would say.
The game explicitly refers to him as a god though. It's like the entire driving force of the plot.
No, there isn't.
We have Yakuza, which sticks to small suburbs and Persona, which is heavily stylised and even smaller in Japanese areas to visit.
People still want to see proper AAA Japan presentations from the likes of Assassin's Creed or Forza Horizon. So it would be cool to see God of War do it too.
Just not for a while I think.
I subscribe to the Kratos=Tyr theory, and I feel that God of War 5 or 6 will involve time travel and a location switch before finally going back to Norse mythology for the final showdown
I am of the opinion that we can always have more :). Especially from a Western perspective.
The other character in the new God of War certainly do recognise he's a God of some sort, he didn't stop being a God when he entered that realm. And Atreus connects to Kratos which connects to God of War - at this point it just seems like you don't want Kratos to not be the main character, which is fine, but there's no in-game logic for why Atreus couldn't become the new God of War, I'd actually argue it's heavily implied it will happen, one of the themes I actually thought the new God of War did well (didn't really like how they handled the women characters, and thought they were skimping over the fact Kratos is a horrible father to have feel good moments at the end, but hope they end up showing it later in the next games).
That's the only way they can understand why he is so powerful, they never even guess what he is the god of. It doesn't matter to them.
Who's God of War would Atreus be? The Greeks are all dead, there's no title to take unless you play with your imaginary friends. And Tyr is the God of War in Norse mythology. There's no throne for him to take. If they go somewhere else, is Atreus or a new character going to kill that other mythology's God of War?
And you're exactly right, I wouldn't be happy with Kratos being killed off when they just made his story so interesting and made him a great character. I don't care enough about people's desire to have a game set in Japan (lets be honest, Japan gets enough attention in games). And of course if you view God of War through a 21st century secular-progressive lens you aren't going to like how they depict certain things. Of course Kratos is a bad father, he was a spartan, they all die in combat before their kids are 3 years old lol. And Vikings did the same. He perfectly fits in with both mythologies, especially with the story they are trying to tell.
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I can see that.
I mean GoW has had time traveling since GoW2 so it is very possible for this to be true. The world serpent is Atreus's son that went back in time after fighting Thor so we already have some time travel shenanigans going on.
Completely agreed. Japan was much more represented in earlier gens like the PS2 than now. You had games like Onimusha, Genji, Way of the Samurai, etc. A lot more of the Persona games as well than we have currently.
He himself calls himself a god and talks about how he and atreus have a burden and gonna be better than the other gods.
It's an interesting theory. Considering that the Norse mythology has it's own version of the sisters of fate I think Kratos and Atretus will try to stop Ragnarok from happening, but ultimately fail.
That doesn't make any sense. Other than Okami and maybe Asura's Wrath, I can't think of many games that deal with the subject matter in the manner a GoW game would.
Yeah, he's spoken a bit about this before. His wife is Swedish and from I recall he's said that she encouraged him to do a lot of research on Norse mythology.
Totally agreed. I would have preferred the Egyptian myth by far. Contrary to what some are saying in this thread, I believe that Norse mythology is over represented in video games... there are currently several games dealing with it available right now in the store. If we count also last generation, the number is impressive. I would say that this Norse/Viking lore has been done to death. Also, I believe that Egyptian myth is more authentic and historically documented.
...so?
Like half the dialogue in the game is Kratos teaching Atreus what it is like to be a god, and the responsibility they have to be better than the gods that came before.
I just want Kratos to gain the ability to open world travel to these other realms. Kill some good for a unique item and move on.
People talk about egypt and japan but it would be also interesting to see
Celtic mythology that was also teased in the game.
Its also hinted at that Mirmir came from the celtic lands. He tells in one of the boat stories that he came from another land like Kratos.
Thats why he also has his scottish accent.
Its also hinted at that Mirmir came from the celtic lands. He tells in one of the boat stories that he came from another land like Kratos.
Thats why he also has his scottish accent.
I have to agree, even though I absolutely hated him as a protagonist by the time the third game rolled around. But they did a lot too evolve and mature his character that I would not want to give up playing him again so soon now. So I think it's pretty clear they're setting the stage for a successor at some point, so at the same time that isn't strictly necessary either. It'll be interesting to see what they decide to do.
Maybe they did / will, but I'm definitely not a fan of AC and open world games in general. I just think games benefit from diversity and it's cool to see different places, colors, art, styles and cultures. Personally, I think games were too samey during the last gen and it's definitely a plus now.
The Norse gods are far weaker in their religious origins than the way GoW portrays them. Look it up; they don't even have true eternal youth. All-powerful deities as a concept is a relatively recent invention in human history.
I'm fairly confident in this studio doing any setting well, but I am definitely glad they chose Norse just simply because I played AC Origins over a few months (still have to play DLC) and it would have been a little repetitive playing GOW in the same setting.
It also was a nice juxtaposition to have American Gods which dealt a little with Norse mythology as well as of course all the Thor movie stuff that kind of made an alternative take on Norse mythology fun to play through.
It also was a nice juxtaposition to have American Gods which dealt a little with Norse mythology as well as of course all the Thor movie stuff that kind of made an alternative take on Norse mythology fun to play through.
No one said that (unless I looked over it, and if so, apologies). We're talking about Japan in general, and the comment was that there has been too many games set in Japan, to which some of us disagree. Compared to previous generations like the sixth (to which had dozens), this generation has only had a handful.
Then again, I guess for some, overall there might have been even though there hasn't been that many comparatively this gen, and to me, that's what counts.
Honestly, most cultures are pretty unexplored though. Japan is definitely explored a lot more than say the Aztecs or Mayans.
I kind of feel like it would get old to just have them hopping from mythology to mythology every 3 games.
The way God of War 2018 was set up, there's no reason why they can't just start mixing shit in the same trilogy, instead of it being 3 games of Kratos killing some gods and dealing with the end of the world over and over again. Make a less grand story involving gods from different regions, it could be cool.
The way God of War 2018 was set up, there's no reason why they can't just start mixing shit in the same trilogy, instead of it being 3 games of Kratos killing some gods and dealing with the end of the world over and over again. Make a less grand story involving gods from different regions, it could be cool.
Now, that would be cool.
I don't want the franchise to fall into "Kratos and Son kills ALL the mythological Gods." It would've been cool to have seen Egypt as a setting, but I'm also happy with the direction the final game did take, and I don't want the team to contrive a reason for why Kratos and Atreus somehow made it to Egypt post-GoW.
Egyptian gods feel more iconic in pop culture to me than Norse gods. I think it would've been really cool.
That's an extremely contemporary point of view. At the time there was no real concept of "Europe", and the Mediterranean states were the center of the known world. And of course they would soon both be part of the Roman empire.
Don't Hindu conservatives loose their shit every time someone tries to take creative liberties with one of their gods? It's generally much easier to deal with religions that are no longer being worshiped.
Probably, Buddhism could maybe be done though, they both just have really colourful deities and histories to draw from which would contrast really well to the Norse setting.
