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May 9, 2018
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New news, new thread.


American voters must choose between three sharply divergent visions of the future.

The incumbent president, Donald Trump, is clear about where he is guiding the Republican Party — white nativism at home and America First unilateralism abroad, brazen corruption, escalating culture wars, a judiciary stacked with ideologues and the veneration of a mythological past where the hierarchy in American society was defined and unchallenged.

On the Democratic side, an essential debate is underway between two visions that may define the future of the party and perhaps the nation. Some in the party view President Trump as an aberration and believe that a return to a more sensible America is possible. Then there are those who believe that President Trump was the product of political and economic systems so rotten that they must be replaced.

The history of the editorial board would suggest that we would side squarely with the candidate with a more traditional approach to pushing the nation forward, within the realities of a constitutional framework and a multiparty country. But the events of the past few years have shaken the confidence of even the most committed institutionalists. We are not veering away from the values we espouse, but we are rattled by the weakness of the institutions that we trusted to undergird those values.

There are legitimate questions about whether our democratic system is fundamentally broken. Our elections are getting less free and fair, Congress and the courts are increasingly partisan, foreign nations are flooding society with misinformation, a deluge of money flows through our politics. And the economic mobility that made the American dream possible is vanishing.

Both the radical and the realist models warrant serious consideration. If there were ever a time to be open to new ideas, it is now. If there were ever a time to seek stability, now is it.

That's why we're endorsing the most effective advocates for each approach. They are Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar.

Senator Warren is a gifted storyteller. She speaks elegantly of how the economic system is rigged against all but the wealthiest Americans, and of "our chance to rewrite the rules of power in our country," as she put it in a speech last month. In her hands, that story has the passion of a convert, a longtime Republican from Oklahoma and a middle-class family, whose work studying economic realities left her increasingly worried about the future of the country. The word "rigged" feels less bombastic than rooted in an informed assessment of what the nation needs to do to reassert its historic ideals like fairness, generosity and equality.

Good news, then, that Amy Klobuchar has emerged as a standard-bearer for the Democratic center. Her vision goes beyond the incremental. Given the polarization in Washington and beyond, the best chance to enact many progressive plans could be under a Klobuchar administration.

The senator from Minnesota is the very definition of Midwestern charisma, grit and sticktoitiveness. Her lengthy tenure in the Senate and bipartisan credentials would make her a deal maker (a real one) and uniter for the wings of the party — and perhaps the nation.

Complain on Twitter if old.
 

Volimar

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not the worst choices, though I don't have much faith in the NYT anymore.
 

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As much as everyone is deservedly mocking this for being stupid, it would be nice if Klob pulled a few extra votes in Iowa from Butti and Biden
 

SupremeWu

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Dec 19, 2017
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NY Times seems to be having some sort of dare challenge to destroy whatever credibility it may have still had
 

jchap

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Oct 27, 2017
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I wonder if there are people that a newspaper endorsement actually affects these days.
 

kris.

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Oct 25, 2017
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Imagine hearing Klobuchar speak about anything and thinking "Yep this is who the Dems need right now."

Incredible lmao
 

DorkLord54

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Oct 27, 2017
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To bring it to the more recent thread:
Warren was predictable tbh. I was betting on that one. Adding Klobuchar to the mix is so... wut? As they said during the show, she's been anemic in the polls. She's completely uninspiring and doesn't excite anybody outside of Minnesotta.
The pundit class seems to love her for some reason.
I'm guessing the main deliberations occurred before he dropped out.
 

JABEE

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Oct 25, 2017
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This is hilarious. Also, Warren isn't the standard-bearer for the American Left even if this is how the NY Times sees it.
 

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Nov 7, 2017
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I wonder if there are people that a newspaper endorsement actually affects these days.
In small scale races absolutely. Not so sure about presidential ones considering all the conservative newspapers that endorsed Hillary or not-Trump didn't seem to matter at all lol
 

Euron

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Oct 27, 2017
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Part of me thought they'd actually endorse Booker after he dropped out and even that would have been better than this
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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yeah Klobuchar kinda the useful succubus we need if she can take away from Biden, so actually I'm OKAY with this
 

Sabot

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Oct 31, 2017
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Both garbage and cowardly.

This place hired Bret Stephens, hired Quinn Norton, employs Bari Weiss. Publishes articles that explore the "human side" of fucking nazis. Their endorsement means less than nothing to me, they are scum fucks.
 

Crushed

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Oct 25, 2017
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Good news, then, that Amy Klobuchar has emerged as a standard-bearer for the Democratic center. Her vision goes beyond the incremental. Given the polarization in Washington and beyond, the best chance to enact many progressive plans could be under a Klobuchar administration.

The senator from Minnesota is the very definition of Midwestern charisma, grit and sticktoitiveness. Her lengthy tenure in the Senate and bipartisan credentials would make her a deal maker (a real one) and uniter for the wings of the party — and perhaps the nation.

this is gibberish

this is something you'd write as over-the-top satire of vapid political commentary