What the next Vs. Capcom games needs is to not be screwed over by Marvel/Disney bullshit
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The next Marvel vs. Capcom needs to be Funky and Stylish, just like Marvel vs. Capcom 2 was.
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I personally would be more hype for Capcom: All Stars since i'm a Capcom boy. I never really messed with the Marvel side until Infinite since Gamora and Ultron were fun to play.
Did it actually do bad though? Despite not having marketing, no word of mouth and negative reception all around, MvCI still sold over a million copies.
Capcom expected to sell 2.000.000, and they're acting like the game doesn't exist at all... so yeah i think it did bad.
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While any game selling 1 million is good. Just to put this into perspective, Dead Rising 4 sold only 1 million and was effectively iced due to that performance. That was only on 2 platforms as well (PC/X1) vs MVC:I's 3 (PS4/X1/PC). Then there's also the price drop MVC:I received very quickly after launch.
The current 1 million in sales is basically digital + the store product that is still out there. There hasn't been any MvC:I reprintings as far as I know.
I don't want story mode to kneecap the rest of the game though.
Part of me is convinced that Viewtiful Joe and Phoenix Wright got cut because they couldn't find a way to fit them in the story.
I think Max put it best, Capcom All-Stars doesn't have the sheer sales potential to go crazy with it budget-wise (like adding a story mode or having a huge marketing campaign). If that game were to happen, you need to do it like Killer Instinct ($20-30 initially, start small & grow as time goes on).
I totally agree. MvC2 was a weird mash up of all the stuff from the previous VS titles which were actually well conceived as singular games (especially xmen vs sf and MvC 1).
Those are the titles to channel, not MvC 2.
Capcom projected the game to sell 2 million copies in it's initial run, and they characterised the sales as "soft" in investors reports.
MvCI reached 1 million (now 1.3 mill) over time, long after it sales slowed down, after a permanent price decrease that rendered the "deluxe" edition 60 USD by default and with many sales.
Sure, why not. Make it an evergreen title in the MvC3/I engine, F2P, and gradually add characters as DLC.
who is everyone? The jazzy funk played to the frenetic action very well
No way, those games are not nearly as interesting and have way less content.
Stylistically they are way better. MvC2 has more content (good thing) but it's nowhere near as cohesive as a game and is mostly just the previous VS games smushed together anyway.
Pretty much this.
MvC3 artstyle is just amazing, the music and the looks are just great. The system was broken, so I give MvCi points there, the game feels more fun than 3.
And the good thing of a comic book style is that all the crazy looking characters from Capcom side (megaman, Okami, Viewtiful Joe, etc) look fine with the humanoid characters while they are in the Cell Shading way.
Although, if they are forced to make it realistic, use RE engine, Devil May Cry 5 is a testament that they can do a amazing looking game at 60fps. Just use that engine.
But in the end, I would love if the game looked like MvC3 cutscenes/trailers did, that look was just great.
I really liked Marvel Infinite, such that I've actually played it more than I've played UMvC3, but Capcom really does need to go back to the older games in terms of roster and style.
It's a crime that Nova's fantastic UMvC3 theme lasted all of one game before getting replaced.
It's a crime that Nova's fantastic UMvC3 theme lasted all of one game before getting replaced.
To me those ones are just the same overall but lesser in every way. A downgrade in every sense compared to 2. It doesn't actually suffer from most of the things people say it does. Stylistically they are the same though with way less pizzazz
Edit: 3 on 3 will always be better than 2 on 2
It'd probably have as much sales potential as any other fighting game Capcom could possibly make, except for maybe the next Street Fighter, and even then.
I think as far as Capcom fighting games as a whole go it's time for them to really decide whether they are going to commit to staying in the arena with the top dogs. I think they can do it if they can show the same level of commitment that they demonstrated in getting RE and DMC back to a good place.
Well, now that Mr. Tsujimoto is in charge for the Fighting games, I hope to see a lot more of it.
If you ask me, I still miss how Ryota Niitsuma handled Tatsunoko vs Capcom and Marvel vs Capcom 3. Both were amazing games and would love to see something like that.
Personally, I don't like MvC2 style. I like the roster because we have 4 different Darkstalkers on it but the music and stages were weird to say the least.
If you ask me, I still miss how Ryota Niitsuma handled Tatsunoko vs Capcom and Marvel vs Capcom 3. Both were amazing games and would love to see something like that.
Personally, I don't like MvC2 style. I like the roster because we have 4 different Darkstalkers on it but the music and stages were weird to say the least.
I actually think DBFZ would be better as a 2v2 fighter.
MvC2 music and mugen style weren't my cup of tea to be honest but it sure is kinda memorable.
I really hope that Capcom and Marvel go all out with a new iteration after what happened with Infinite.
Jill, Gene, Daredevil and Psylocke would make the game a must for me.
I really hope that Capcom and Marvel go all out with a new iteration after what happened with Infinite.
Jill, Gene, Daredevil and Psylocke would make the game a must for me.
Nahhh the other games have a more consistent visual style, actual story, better balance, much better music, better backgrounds...
Also 6 buttons > 4 buttons but that's a matter of opinion.
Give me CvS2 any day of the week!
Street Fighter V did wind up taking an idea from Killer Instinct: getting tired and wanting to move on after three years.
I generally like Max's idea but it pines for the kind of GaaS model that none of the major studios want to commit to (excluding ASW's constant stream of expansions). Any potential Capcom vs. Capcom is gonna need to fire a lot harder at the launch to get the kind of value Max is looking for.
don't forget the character select screen. It's by FAR one of the best ones ever in motion:
The "funk" as the op puts it, is NOT the aspect of MvC2 that made us all play the shit out of it back in the day.
That was Marvel's fault, not Capcom's. And Disney's recent acquisition of Fox will ensure that the X-Men/F4 ban will never happen again.
Yeh I know it was marvels decision.
Still salty about everything relating to infinite.
That character select music is burned into my brain. I miss seeing this type of hand drawn artwork in fighting games. It's such a rare thing nowadays.don't forget the character select screen. It's by FAR one of the best ones ever in motion:
My ONLY gripe of MvC is the roster selection/size. That aside, finally seeing Mega Man in a proper fighting game was something special. I'd really love to see the return of Classic Mega Man in MvC4. He's got more than enough to differentiate himself from X, IMO.
So what is the excuse for Capcom's piss poor roster selection? Even with Marvel's restrictions, Capcom's side was even more tragic.