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The NFL settles grievances with Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid
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Right here. Anyone blaming Chip for that SF has no idea what they are talking about. It was a miricale that they won any games with how bad that roster was.
My initial reaction was "Well, Kaep is a sell out." It felt terrible thinking that the NFL's discriminatory policy would get sealed up and nothing comes from this except for Kaep getting paid.
But, after thinking on it for a few more minutes, I think a lot of good can come from this. Kaep has been very reliable so far and it's only fair to trust him on this, but if he takes even 10% of that $60-$80 million rumored payday and puts it towards a good cause, I'd say it's a big win.
But, after thinking on it for a few more minutes, I think a lot of good can come from this. Kaep has been very reliable so far and it's only fair to trust him on this, but if he takes even 10% of that $60-$80 million rumored payday and puts it towards a good cause, I'd say it's a big win.
While i agree on Peterman, I don't agree that the baggage claims hold no water. Once the kneeling issue, kneel away my friends, became big news then the baggage started piling up. Vick went away for a few years, came back apologetically (not saying Kaep should by the way). Everyone wanted to see his redemption from Dog Killer to what he became.
Kaep ended up filing a greivance against the league, and once that happened not one owner would touch him. And the settlement is as much for the next CBA negotiations as anything else I think. Personally I don't think there was a grand conspiracy or collusion against him. I just think no one wanted him on their team.
I'm guessing it was only a few in ownership that were dumb enough to create a paper trail of the collusion.
They only needed to shut up for 1 year and then they would of had plausible deniability going forward of not wanting to sign a 30yo 5 years past his best play.
But in 2017 Matt Moore, Tom Savage, Drew Stanton, Matt Cassel, EJ Manuel, Blaine Gabbert, and T.J. Yates got starts.
Only Moore has a career passer rating of 80+
They only needed to shut up for 1 year and then they would of had plausible deniability going forward of not wanting to sign a 30yo 5 years past his best play.
But in 2017 Matt Moore, Tom Savage, Drew Stanton, Matt Cassel, EJ Manuel, Blaine Gabbert, and T.J. Yates got starts.
Only Moore has a career passer rating of 80+
I watch too much football sadly. QBs are judged by wins/losses. Single most important position in the game with the biggest influence on the outcome of the game. Chip wasn't great no argument there!
I think he was blacklisted. He deserved to get paid for the blacklisting. It's pretty difficult to think otherwise with how things went down. Many QBs out there he was better then. Just didnt see him as great or on a hall of fame trajectory that others seem to.
It's kind of disappointing that Kaepernick can't talk about the issues anymore. It feels like we'll never get closure.
Has he said anything what his plans are? I guess probably not?
I found this link for charities/groups he's donated to but the article is over a year old:
https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/1...ull-list-of-organizations-one-million-dollars
What the NFL was most afraid of is that a loss on a collusion lawsuit= players could break the labor agreement and strike.
Also doubt this agreement gags Kaep about the issues, just the settlement details.
Also doubt this agreement gags Kaep about the issues, just the settlement details.
You know that Kaepernick win/loss record was amazing a couple of seasons earlier? He played in a super bowl.
Am aware. Small window IMO. QBs I see as worse than Kaepernick have done good things for small time periods but ultimately proved unsustainable. Really no way to know either way how it was going to go for Colin as he was blacklisted. He may have turned it around, he may not have. NFL robbed us from ever knowing.
Well, not sure how to interpret this.
Is this a win for Kaep because he was right all along or is this a loss because he was bought at a high enough price to keep his mouth shut...
Is this a win for Kaep because he was right all along or is this a loss because he was bought at a high enough price to keep his mouth shut...
He hasn't yet, I look forward to it. Hopefully he does soon.
Even insinuating that cap was bought is a ridiculous question because it was a lawsuit and the lawsuit was always about money and whether the NFL was blackballing him thus preventing him from earning a living in the NFL. He probably never plays in the NFL again in my opinion considering who most of the owners are. The only team I could even see having a slim chance of picking him up is the Panthers if Cam's shoulder is not good enough to go next season.
So late yesterday a story came out saying that the AAF (the new football league) had approached both Kaep and Tebow to play. The report claimed that Kaep said it'd take 20m+ for him to even consider playing. Turns out that it was a bullshit story that conveniently came out a day before this settlement
My take is that if Kaep got paid, wouldn't it be because something even more damaging to the NFL could've been revealed during a public trial?
I mean, if you got nothing to hide, you don't pay and you fight.
I hope he keep being spokesman for major organizations. Maybe take a pay cut and do some pro bono form non profit orgs.
I'm glad this is "over." Does this mean I can go back to pointing out that Kaep was a mediocre quarterback before he started kneeling and not be labeled a race-traitor for it?
Mans got PAID and avoided further bodily harm that comes with the territory. That's a personal victory.
What he does from here on out will show what he's really about.
What he does from here on out will show what he's really about.
Probably but paying up front is cheaper in the long run. Fighting it out in court is far more expensive than just settling and then the bad press the NFL would get especially if the collusion was even remotely close to being proven. Places settle out of court all the time without admitting fault.
By most accounts the guy has basically become a shadow philanthropist spending his time researching the right causes and then giving money without asking for any acknowledgment. There was a great SI article last year about what he's been doing since he's been out of the league.
This is disappointing, but after this long I want to believe that he did what was necessary. It's just frustrating that the NFL gets to walk away again without having to admit to shit.
I don't know why the presupposition is that the NFL(owners/front office)prioritizes wins over everything else.
Have you seen QB roster choices made in the last three years?
I mean, there's been hella reporting that teams weren't taking him because of the kneeling. We know that they've asked that of everybody who was in the news for kneeling.
We also know that news spectacles aren't enough to black list a player. See every player who was signed to a team with a domestic violence case.
I just don't see why everyone is tripping over themselves to defend the honor of nearly three dozen billionaire owners.
Have you seen QB roster choices made in the last three years?
I mean, there's been hella reporting that teams weren't taking him because of the kneeling. We know that they've asked that of everybody who was in the news for kneeling.
We also know that news spectacles aren't enough to black list a player. See every player who was signed to a team with a domestic violence case.
I just don't see why everyone is tripping over themselves to defend the honor of nearly three dozen billionaire owners.
I mean, paying someone to shut up when the league has the manpower to fight arbitration implies something. They're acting mighty guilty if they're stuffing mouths with that much gold. The narrative that Kaepernick was forced out of the league over his protest is going to be strengthened by this, not weakened.
You don't know that. If Kaepernick was true to his word, he would have fought the NFL to the end, especially if he had a strong case, and could have exposed the NFL. By settling early, he basically sold out to the NFL.
Whatever he got is a drop in the bucket for the NFL; now whatever he supposedly stood for is buried six feet under, which was the NFL's goal all along. I'd say both sides won here, the NFL for getting rid of an annoyance, and Kaep for profiting from his kneeling.
Not necessarily. Settling early is a heck lot cheaper than potentially going to trial and face potentially a greater financial penalty and public scrutiny). Besides, as I said earlier, whatever amount they gave Kaep is pretty much irrelevant for the NFL, and they get to shut him / narrative up for good.
Kap isn't profiting from his kneeling, he's arguably getting what he would have gotten In contracts had he not been blackballed.
Are families of police brutality victims that settle with cities over wrongful death also "selling out"?
The dude is make sure people are speculating in later treats which means this number doesn't really mean much, I doubt we will ever get a truthful number.
I mean if you don't have reasoning skills. This is the same league that fights CTE studies. But they settled this
If they had admitted to anything there would not of been any need for this settlement. The league wanted the controversy surrounding this gone and the best way to do that was settle and silence him with an NDA. Protests surrounding the half time show was embarrassing for them and likely would not of ended next year either unless they did this.
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