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this show thinks it's way more progressive than it is. Why are the Moclons the only queer characters on the show? Back to back episodes of taboo relationships but both times heterosexual-coded really drives the feeling home for me. Nobody else on the ship is bi or gay? In the far future there aren't any non-binary characters? Nobody's part robot? Have they ever expressed a reason for the stark lack of transhumanism? It feels like what would have been considered progressive a couple decades ago.
If I didn't know better and someone described a show as having an episode where (spoilers) "one of the characters comes out as straight" then I'd think they're having a laugh, or it's some alt right garbage.
If I didn't know better and someone described a show as having an episode where (spoilers) "one of the characters comes out as straight" then I'd think they're having a laugh, or it's some alt right garbage.
It's probably just a consequence of the hyper focus on the main characters. Like there hasn't been any real focus on the side characters outside one or two and they're mostly for laughs rather than to be seriously taken.
As for why they didn't make one of them non-hetrosexual I cannot say as I'm not a writer on the show.
But I do feel like trying to equate the show to alt-right is... really far off base.
Maybe the show isnt exactly pandering to the alt-right but its definitely presenting a vision of the future that is very Intro to Progressivism 101. I guess they know their audience. Some of that can feel a bit backward i suppose if youre expecting an actual modern Trek
Just watched the episode. It is really weird that so many of these season two episodes have focused on Bortus.
I liked it though.
I liked it though.
Interesting episode. Heterophobia.
A species that works with and interacts with many other species that are obviously heterosexual end up being extremely close-minded about the subject. They don't have a problem when others do it, but it's a criminal act and suicide worthy when they do?
Then I think about how batshit crazy and homophobic some humans are. Bigotry is hard to understand.
A species that works with and interacts with many other species that are obviously heterosexual end up being extremely close-minded about the subject. They don't have a problem when others do it, but it's a criminal act and suicide worthy when they do?
Then I think about how batshit crazy and homophobic some humans are. Bigotry is hard to understand.
The Captain shagged a male alien last season.
They have the tech to regrow legs etc so less need for robot parts?
I want The Orville to follow up on the Union's political relationship with the Moclans. While I know the Union relies on the Moclan defence industry's expertise due to the Krill threat, them being basically space mirror-Saudi Arabia would cause a lot of tension in the Union. Unless the Union are way more like the USA or UN than the Federation.
Maybe I read too much into this and made it into my head cannon, but I got the impression that he became a screw up because of the divorce. That started his decline. He had slowly been putting himself back together, and the chance to captain his own ship was his stated lifelong dream. He was given what he always wanted since he was a kid, and it re-focused him and got him back on task. That's also a reason why finding out that Kelley put in a good word for him was such a hit. He had embraced the fact that he had achieved his dream, himself.
It's also been stated that he was so focused on his career when he was with Kelley that it initially caused the problems in their relationship, so maybe he was a dedicated officer back then, too. I dunno, that all makes sense to me.
I mean that makes sense and I kinda forgot that the divorce is what led to his life being a mess
For sure. From the S1E1 opening, "You would have been offered command earlier, but you haven't inspired that much confidence this past year." And, "Ed, you were at the top of your class. Your teachers thought you'd be in command of your own cruiser by the time you were 40. But this past year, the tardiness..."
He also tells Ed that this assignment is his last chance. So really he had a lot of reasons to get his act together.
How can the Union justify keeping the Mocclan around? And wow Klyden is a real pos. Also good on them for tackling thorny issues and having not happy endings.
So this episode has been pretty cool. Seeing Isaac's homeworld was a nice change of pace and of course it already feels very sinister. I do wish some of the sets were a bit more... fantastic looking as the CG descent onto the planet. Looks like they're walking into the lobby of some random office building.
Holy shit, tonight's ep was great.
Yeah, the music was great when it was leaning into the mystery and then the big ending. Hopefully they keep it up next week.
LOL didn't expect it at all too
Yeah I wasn't expecting him to start belting out a tune like that.
The CG was amazing for the planet descent and the ending. Fantastic work.
The tension build with the reveal into the battle and then the ending was really good. Them bringing out and putting away their weapons was totally creepy, felt like a Star Trek + Doctor Who sequence, it was great.
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Honestly, this has been the thing that makes me most excited about the show. I like almost everything about Orville, but I love the music. I was listening to the soundtrack in the office today, and the versatility is really nice. I do wonder if it is usual though for a show to have 3 composers?
In the olden days, it was common. Definitely unusual for contemporary television (as is the use of an orchestra in general). Seth also gives the composers a very generous time to write the scores, about three weeks each. Most shows these days are credited to one composer but that composer tends to have a lot of people on his team who help write the music.
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I haven't seen much Doctor Who, but they also remind me of those Cybermen.
That was terrific, easily the best episode of the show so far.
I'll even forgive them the tired "kid does stupid things to move the plot along" trope because it led somewhere so exciting. Terrific visuals and music too. The shot of the mass grave on the viewscreen was truly chilling thanks to the way it was shot and especially scored. Not sure where they'll take Isaac after this. Hope they really land the conclusion.
man....I looked up imdb on him and he played steve rogers jr. and I'm like that voice != THAT singing voice. I was mindblown
I am shocked. I hope once Disney acquires FOX, Scott would be able to sing more.
Great episode.
Minor nitpick, but in S1 didn't Isaac say those lights are not eyes, he uses sensors to detect what is around him and he just put the lights there for crew benefit? Why all his people got eye lights?
Edit: Potato head scene. Purely aesthetic.
Minor nitpick, but in S1 didn't Isaac say those lights are not eyes, he uses sensors to detect what is around him and he just put the lights there for crew benefit? Why all his people got eye lights?
Edit: Potato head scene. Purely aesthetic.
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If it helps they don't match up to where the two inside lights are.
Really great episode, I almost thought it was another claire/Isaacs eps and I was about to tune out before shit got serious, terrific ending, cliffhanger and score like others have said, can't wait for next week. Hopefully the season stays this good as the earlier episodes were losing me
That might be part of it but I think it was likely more to tell Isaac apart from the rest.