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The Outer Worlds, Control, Dauntless, SpellBreak, The Cycle, Ancestors & More Coming As Timed Exclusives To Epic Games Store; TOW also on MS Store
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I guess? Usually I'd agree, but I don't know a single person who pirated something for any reason other than price. Sure that's anecdotal, but is he seriously arguing that price isn't a major factor when pirating something?
I don't buy it.
Steam does it way less to be sure. I guess I'm referencing Halo but even that will be on the MS store. So please don't take my shot at Steam as too serious. Mainly aimed at Epic, square on the nose.
Are you thinking this through?
For e.g. Outer Worlds instead of having 20 stores and 20 different prices for consumer to choose from consumer now will have 1 store and 1 price. How that is eroding some mythical monopoly Steam has when it establishes just that, actual monopoly on title?
Also Obsidian was bank rolled by 2K to make Outer Worlds, they are owned by one of wealthiest corporations in the world. Something tells me they didn't need that extra cash from Epic...
Rami Ismail: "sucks to be you".
And sucks for everyone who would like to have some decent features (other than C O M P E T I T I O N) to better experience their games. .
Good thing steam isn't a monopoly.
It's never been nor will it ever be, it's always gonna be copyright infringement.
Won't somebody think of competition!
Steam, being successful, isn't a 'monopoly'. There's other alternative places to play. I don't mind Epic throwing their hat into the ring.
I do, however, mind Epic tossing absurd amounts of money to get exclusivity deals. This is artificial competition and ends up hurting their fanbase, especially when they come to find out this is the case weeks before release.
What a ridiculous thing to say, of course they knew.
You realize the game will still launch on Steam eventually, right? Adding achievements to that version isn't indicative of anything and seems like a non-sequitur that has no relevance in this conversation.
How the hell is Steam to blame for this??? Steam never locked any developer onto their store. If the developer or publisher decides to sell on the Steam store only, it's on them...not cuz Valve told them to.
I have friends who decided not to pirate games in order to have access to Steam cloud and universal controller options so he could use his Switch Pro controller.
Steam therefore provided better service than the piracy could provide him.
Dig into your gigantic coffers and make some games to draw people to your platform (or buy them). Or give developers the same deal your competition is giving them.
I don't see what all the hubub is about, I'm just excited to play the game. I don't mind having another launcher if it's what I need to do.
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Valve buying exclusives? I don't think so. I'd be pissed if they did.
We all know that Epic is. (sure they'll have humble bundle keys eventually......)
What lol? Are you arguing that pirating a game and playing it without paying a cent isn't stealing?
way less? steam doesn't do it at all
if developers decide to make their game steam only that's because they wanted to
Staff Post - Advocating piracy will result in a ban
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Reminder: Endorsing piracy or declaring your intent to commit piracy is not acceptable here under any circumstances. There's been a lot of that in these threads and if it continues the ban lengths will increase as necessary.
That's a counterfactual that you can't know. Generally markets perform better when there are more players. Steam has rarely been pressured to improve or diversify their offerings, and some of the major advancements came in response to the little competition that exists. To cite one example, Steam only started offering refunds after Origin had established the practice, and Steam's refund policy still lags Origin's.
On the developer side, I can already see the positive effects of competition in pressuring Valve to start adjusting their cut on sales.
It's your right as a consumer to buy whatever you want however you want on whatever store you want, but let's not pretend this is a positive move for a consumer. I use plenty of other PC digital stores and I tend to buy games where the benefits for me are I'm no steam loyalist but in this case other than the fact they have locked it to the EPIC store giving me 0 choice whats the pro?
As a law graduate with the focus in media law (German). No. Legally, in Europe, it is not.
Have you considered saying it with them though? It might change your mind on the matter.
Over 700 hours logged into New Vegas on Steam; Outerworlds was probably at the top of wishlist within moments of the store page going up on Steam.
Fuck off Epic! You're not going to get me to buy a game on your storefront and the bullying only cements my stance.
Fuck off Epic! You're not going to get me to buy a game on your storefront and the bullying only cements my stance.
I've never said this was positive for the consumer. I'm both a developer and a consumer and personally I care more about game developers getting paid properly and not having to work insane hours for little reward. Steam as it is for an indie dev is a roulette wheel.
and a big nope goes out to Obsidian for taking Epic's moneyhat
Super duper extra off-my-list and maybe for good. Man I'm fucking disappointed
Super duper extra off-my-list and maybe for good. Man I'm fucking disappointed
What is this bs?
Steam last year offered:
SteamLink for Android
Proton, so 99% of Windows Games can be played on Linux
Added official controller support for new controllers (Switch pro)
Working on VR hardware and the ecosystem
Publisher/dev pages.
In the years before I got Family Sharing. I got Steam Music. Steam Workshop for Mods.
"Steam hasnt been pressured to improve" while literally last year so many tools, apps and improvements were released for the consumer.
its financially impossible to provide a lower percentage to developers/publishers long term while giving them all the features that comes with a storefront. you either shift the burden on the consumers by charging a processing fee or raise the percentage on developers. Epic is eating the cost here but its not going to be long where they decide what route they'll take to keep things afloat.
developers will learn to suck it up, people aren't going to pay for a game + taxes and additional processing fee.
Steam implemented refund because they were sued IIRC.
Epic isn't bringing anything new on the consumer side and they already stated that it wasn't their strategy.
Are Ubisoft games ever going to show up on steam again or are they permanent epic store exclusives?
Selling the game on Steam, GMG, Humble, CDKeys, etc. isn't a monopoly, and allows for price competition.
Selling the game only on Epic Games Store is the monopoly, and will have a fixed price.
And that's not even the only anti-consumer aspect of this. I can't play Subnautica on EGS because my controller won't work, and I can't family-share the game with my spouse. Not to mention the unethical sniffing of Steam data from EGS.
Sometimes, this makes me feel like they want "to fuck me till I like it" and opt for their store...
About 5 games went from day 1 purchased to buying when they are dirt cheap 2 or 3 years from now.
They knew. They were probably testing achievements on PC. If I remember correctly, Epic Store doesn't even offer achievements at this moment.
This is not what I'm talking about though. One of the major reasons I haven't pirated a game in years is because I love the convenience and the features the storefronts I use offer. But I'm also able to actually afford getting the games as well. Sales also help.
For many people, they decide they can't afford to spend whatever amount of money on games and choose to "play for free" instead.
Hey, quick question. Mentioning past history (far past) of pirating won't lead to a ban, right?
But EGS offers no improvements for customers? Until they do why shouldn't people complain?
at least ubisoft still has uplay, which technically was what we were using all along