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Oct 25, 2017
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Well I got my RX580 back and still getting random crashes on my PC so off goes the power supply for RMA. Hopefully, this will be the ticket. If not all I have left to change is Ram/MoBo, in which case I'll just shut down my PC until Ryzen 3000 comes out and buy new guts.

Fucking PC gaming *grumble grumble*
 

SUPARNOVAX

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Oct 26, 2017
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About to go ahead with my new build, but just wanted to check if there were any obvious incompatibilities or silliness I haven't seen.

CPU - i9 9900k
Mobo - Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Pro
RAM - 16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000mhz, C16 (CMK16GX4M2D3000C16)
GPU - EVGA RTX 2080 XC Gaming (already owned, going to move into the new build)
CPU Cooler - Corsair Hydro H100i
PSU - Corsair HX850 80+ Platinum
Storage - Kingston A400 for OS, Samsung 860 Evo for games
Case - Corsair Carbide 400C

The main things I'm concerned about are compatibility with the memory and if everything is going to fit in the case. My first time buying a mid-case (I usually buy the big boys).

Apart from that, does it look like a good complementary build?
My build is almost the same. I am running Aorus Z390 Master and Corsair i150 pro RGB cooler and double the ram. Everything looks good. I'd maybe step the cooler up in case you wanna overclock?
 
Nov 8, 2017
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Ok so, i've put everything inside and... Yeah, beautiful cable management is a big nope.

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But at least the vital componentes are cable-free and have room for air cooling. Changing/removing cables is going to be a pain, though.

I just booted it a moment and looks like works just fine. It tells me that no boot device has been found. I have already my win10 USB pen ready for later so i'll tell you how things will be working from this point.

Wish me luck guys. I've put 1000€ on this baby...
Congrats on the build! Here is what I ended up with a year and a half or so ago when I first built in the case. This was a Ryzen 7 1700 and a GTX 1080 at the time. (top pic) For the included cooler, I just popped off the plastic shroud with the AMD logo and the top for the case fit perfectly. For a while I was trying to run a 4K PC in this case and I used a 2700X and a 1080Ti. I left the top off because I was using the Wraith Max CPU cooler and the 1080Ti needed the air. (bottom pic) Today the build looks a little different. I re-purposed the build to be my emulation PC. It has a 2600X and a GTX 1660Ti.
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Dave.

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Well I got my RX580 back and still getting random crashes on my PC so off goes the power supply for RMA. Hopefully, this will be the ticket. If not all I have left to change is Ram/MoBo, in which case I'll just shut down my PC until Ryzen 3000 comes out and buy new guts.

Fucking PC gaming *grumble grumble*

This is an unfortunate situation to be in, pretty rough to be randomly picking a probably working part and sending it off for manufacturer RMA. Have you run memtest86 (for hours)? Aida64 / Prime95 etc? If repeated Furmarks didn't reboot it I hesitate to think there's a hardware fault somewhat.
 

Aranath

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My build is almost the same. I am running Aorus Z390 Master and Corsair i150 pro RGB cooler and double the ram. Everything looks good. I'd maybe step the cooler up in case you wanna overclock?
I thought about it, but looking at benchmarks, I think I'll be quite happy with stock performance. I suppose I could upgrade later if I decide to OC. Thanks for the insight, in any case.
 

disgraciau

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Congrats on the build! Here is what I ended up with a year and a half or so ago when I first built in the case. This was a Ryzen 7 1700 and a GTX 1080 at the time. (top pic) For the included cooler, I just popped off the plastic shroud with the AMD logo and the top for the case fit perfectly. For a while I was trying to run a 4K PC in this case and I used a 2700X and a 1080Ti. I left the top off because I was using the Wraith Max CPU cooler and the 1080Ti needed the air. (bottom pic) Today the build looks a little different. I re-purposed the build to be my emulation PC. It has a 2600X and a GTX 1660Ti.
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Yeah, I was thinking about the plastic shroud too, but I wasn't comfortable being too tight, so I just went with the Noctua which for now does the work just fine. 35 on Idle right now while using firefox and it went up to 66ºC when playing Metro Exodus.

Now, the graphics card... woohoo boy. When maxing out everything on Metro Exodus (Raytracing included of course), the RTX 2070 Aero ITX went up to 75ºC. The fans were noisy while playing, indeed. I guess i'm safe if temperatures don't reach 90ºC. Right?


Edit: That's a pretty RGB setup, BTW.

Edit 2: Any good software so I can check hardware statistics while playing? I think MSI Afterburner is the recommended one.
 
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Edit 2: Any good software so I can check hardware statistics while playing? I think MSI Afterburner is the recommended one.

I use HWMonitor for CPU, VRM, etc... temps and voltage, but there is another one that I think a lot of people use called HWInfo or something similar.

Edit: I should say that HWMonitor only shows current/min/max, so if you want something to show a history, then you want another program.
 

disgraciau

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I use HWMonitor for CPU, VRM, etc... temps and voltage, but there is another one that I think a lot of people use called HWInfo or something similar.

Edit: I should say that HWMonitor only shows current/min/max, so if you want something to show a history, then you want another program.

I need a software that can show an overlay with both GPU and CPU usage percentage and temperature while playing. I think RTSS or MSI Afterburner could do that stuff but i don't remember...

In that way I wouldn't have to alt-tab every single time to check CoreTemp or Speccy.
 

CielYoshi

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May 10, 2018
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So, I unexpectedly started on the path of PC Gaming after my brother gave me his old PC. My question is if there's any parts that need replacing for a little future-proofing. Here's the specs:

-OS: Windows 10 Home 64-bit
-CPU: Intel Core [email protected]
-RAM: 12GB DDR4@1070MHz
-MB: ASUS TUF Z370 Mark 2
-GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB
-HDD: 1TB (Windows installed here) + 3TB (Games installed here) [Both SATA3 HDD Drives]

I don't plan on gaming on anything above 1080p, and games currently work pretty fine, except for Forza Horizon 3, which has hitches from time to time.
 

Kromeo

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After I install my new motherboard and cpu, can I just use Windows 10 normally without reinstalling it? I know that Windows 10 might not be activated anymore but are there any issues I can expect?

When I rebuilt my whole computer with new parts my old hard drive loaded into windows with no obvious problems although I did do a reinstall not long after just to be safe. The license for Windows 10 should be tied to your microsoft account so that's all you need to reinstall it
 

Ultra

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Just went with my first gaming PC. Didn't want anything too crazy, just smth for a 1080p screen. Tell me if I got scammed era, it was a '2 day hot deal' apparently.

I5 9400f
RTX 2060
8x2 DDR4 GB 2400
240SDD
2TB HDD
Windows 10

£650
 
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I need a software that can show an overlay with both GPU and CPU usage percentage and temperature while playing. I think RTSS or MSI Afterburner could do that stuff but i don't remember...

In that way I wouldn't have to alt-tab every single time to check CoreTemp or Speccy.

Oh, right. Sorry, I thought you wanted to check all the details. Yes, Afterburner can do that.

I think this should still be right:

https://linustechtips.com/main/topi...msi-afterburner-on-screen-display-using-rtss/
 

Zeouter

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Oct 27, 2017
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Looking for some PC case advice, want to buy it tomorrow if possible.
In Australia now, so good airflow seems like it would be important (so don't want a closed front).
The Meshify C mid tower is sold out (got an ATX Biostar Z87W motherboard, with a 1070).

Looking at these:
Corsair-Carbide-SPEC-04 - https://www.ple.com.au/Products/629...er-Case-Black--Red-wTempered-Glass-Side-Panel
Corsair-Obsidian-450D (Pricey) - https://www.ple.com.au/Products/614949/Corsair-Obsidian-450D-Mid-Tower-Case-wSide-Panel-Window
Thermaltake-Versa-C21 - https://www.ple.com.au/Products/625736/Thermaltake-Versa-C21-RGB-Mid-Tower-Case-wSide-Panel-Window
Thermaltake-Versa-H26 - https://www.ple.com.au/Products/632448/Thermaltake-Versa-H26-Tempered-Glass-Edition-Mid-Tower-Case-
Cooler-Master-CM-590-III - https://www.ple.com.au/Products/625590/Cooler-Master-CM-590-III-Mid-Tower-Case-wSide-Panel-Window
Cooler-Master-MasterBox-TD500 - https://www.ple.com.au/Products/632...id-Tower-Case-wDiamond-Cut-Acrylic-Side-Panel

Any opinions?
 

Wraith

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Jun 28, 2018
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Just went with my first gaming PC. Didn't want anything too crazy, just smth for a 1080p screen. Tell me if I got scammed era, it was a '2 day hot deal' apparently.

I5 9400f
RTX 2060
8x2 DDR4 GB 2400
240SDD
2TB HDD
Windows 10

£650
Price-wise, putting it together on PCPP, it seems to be a pretty good deal. (Hoping that HDD is 7200RPM at least, for game installs.) A pretty solid budget-midrange system. If streaming or video encoding were a big priority, Ryzen might have worked better (more threads), but the 9400F's gaming performance is pretty much on par with Ryzen 6-core CPUs. Should work great for your purposes.
 

Keikaku

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https://wccftech.com/amd-zen-2-5ghz-12-core-4-3ghz-16-core-cpus-leaked-benchmarked/

The chips in question are a 16 core monstrosity that has been benchmarked in Cinebench R15 running at 4.2 GHz and a 12 core speed demon with a 5.0GHz boost clock that the company has been showing around to motherboard makers.

If the leak is to be believed, this 16 core running at 4.2 GHz on all cores scored 4278 points in Cinebench R15. To put that into perspective an 8 core Ryzen 7 2700X scores 1828 points. A 16 core Ryzen 7 1950X Threadripper scores 3055 points and Intel's 16 core i9 7960X scores 3163 points. In fact, it takes a core i9 7960X overclocked to nearly 4.8 GHz to match the leaked 16 Core Ryzen 3000 chip at 4.2 GHz.

These results indicate that Zen 2 brings above 10% improvement in IPC in addition to higher clock speeds thanks to the 7nm process. Combine that with a doubling of cores, AMD's Ryzen 3000 series could easily deliver double the multi-core performance of their predecessors up and down the stack.
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Katonix

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I have a noob question. I have a 2080ti right now and I want to buy another one to use them in SLI (NVLINK). problem is I dont know should I buy a 3 slot one or 4 slot?
 

catboy

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with next gen imminent is now a bad time to build a pc? esp on the cpu front since the consoles are due to get a big upgrade, will something like a 9600K no longer be suitable for 60fps gameplay?

current build is a i5 4590 + 16gb ddr3 + gtx 1080 and the cpu / memory combo is causing stuttering / hitching and sub 60fps frame rates in modern titles. would be look at a i5 9600k + 16gb ddr4 @ 3000mhz + keeping my gtx 1080. would that be a worthwhile upgrade?

thanks!
 

Smokey

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with next gen imminent is now a bad time to build a pc? esp on the cpu front since the consoles are due to get a big upgrade, will something like a 9600K no longer be suitable for 60fps gameplay?

current build is a i5 4590 + 16gb ddr3 + gtx 1080 and the cpu / memory combo is causing stuttering / hitching and sub 60fps frame rates in modern titles. would be look at a i5 9600k + 16gb ddr4 @ 3000mhz + keeping my gtx 1080. would that be a worthwhile upgrade?

thanks!

A 9600k will be fine. But AMDs new chips will be hitting in Q3 and will offer more cores etc if you want to wait and see what those will be like.
 

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A 9600k will be fine. But AMDs new chips will be hitting in Q3 and will offer more cores etc if you want to wait and see what those will be like.
Thanks, I guess I should look at Ryzen.

I didn't already look at them due to single core performance in emulators being something I would be interested in, but it seems like the gap is not that big anymore and Ryzen is better outside of that.
 

Wowfunhappy

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Oct 27, 2017
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Anyone have a really high quality, reliable SATA cable brand?

Mine keep seeming to flake out. Or maybe it's something other than the cable—it would be good to mostly eliminate that as the possible source of problems.
 

pantsattack

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Oct 25, 2017
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Can anyone get me started in the right direction? I want to play R6 Siege at 144hz, emulate wiiU hopefully, and fit a matx board. What CPU range should I be looking at and what is the nomenclature for matx boards that can overclock it?
 
Oct 29, 2017
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Fun little project today. Got this 120mm ID-Cooling AIO for GPUs from Newegg for $60.
(Asus GTX 1070 Turbo)

Pros:
+ Truly 2 slots, nothing sticks out under it beyond the thickness of a blower card.
+ Cheap
+ Comes with an extra mounting bracket for RTX cards.
+ Temps are good, noise is good.
Cons:
- 3 separate cables for the pump (SATA), and the 2 fans (comes with a pwm Y splitter tho).
- The VRM has to be on the right side of the card
- You may need to buy additional heatsinks and adhesive for more surface components depending on your card.
- Took 3 weeks to arrive.
 
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disgraciau

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Last night made some stress test with Metro Exodus with everything maxed out and DLSS disabled.

After more or less one hour my MSI RTX2070 AERO ITX temperature raised up to 79 degrees, It didn't go higher. Ambience temperature was like 24 degrees maybe.

I guess those are ok temperatures for an ITX RTX card inside a Fractal Node 202 case.
 
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Last night made some stress test with Metro Exodus with everything maxed out and DLSS disabled.

After more or less one hour my MSI RTX2070 AERO ITX temperature raised up to 79 degrees, It didn't go higher. Ambience temperature was like 24 degrees maybe.

I guess those are ok temperatures for an ITX RTX card inside a Fractal Node 202 case.
Nothing scares me anymore after owning a stock R9 290, upwards of 94 degrees in games.

I bought one used and thought something was seriously wrong at first lol.
 

disgraciau

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Nothing scares me anymore after owning a stock R9 290, upwards of 94 degrees in games.

I bought one used and thought something was seriously wrong at first lol.

Jesus, that's TOO hot! I hope i don't end up reaching those temps in June-August where ambience temperature in my home is around mid 30s.


BTW, how can I make work MSI Afterburner overlay on UWP games? Doesn't work with Forza Horizon 4 :(
 

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I ordered a 1440p/144 Hz monitor cause there was a great sale on it, but I have a 1070.

- Will that be enough for 90+ FPS in most games?
- If not, what would a good upgrade path be?

Also, I heard that the 2060 had really good performance in 1440p. Would that be an upgrade or a sidegrade to a 1070?
If you are happy to turn down perhaps the most demanding settings a notch or two in AAA games releasing nowdays then a 2060 will do well for you in the 60-90fps territory. Its definitely an upgrade from a 1070 but not a massive jump.

If you want to max games and still reach 90fps area I would recommend a 2080. A 2070 is a waste unless you get a really good deal on one, so I would say choose between a 2060 and 2080, and even a 1080ti if you're not worried about second-hand and missing out on RTX features.
 

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If you are happy to turn down perhaps the most demanding settings a notch or two in AAA games releasing nowdays then a 2060 will do well for you in the 60-90fps territory. Its definitely an upgrade from a 1070 but not a massive jump.

If you want to max games and still reach 90fps area I would recommend a 2080. A 2070 is a waste unless you get a really good deal on one, so I would say choose between a 2060 and 2080, and even a 1080ti if you're not worried about second-hand and missing out on RTX features.
From a 1070? a 2080 or higher is the only thing that would make sense, imo. Unless you could find a used 1080Ti for a decent price.
Dang, alright. Thanks guys, looks like I'll probably wait until next-gen.
 

Wraith

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Can anyone get me started in the right direction? I want to play R6 Siege at 144hz, emulate wiiU hopefully, and fit a matx board. What CPU range should I be looking at and what is the nomenclature for matx boards that can overclock it?
Assuming you mean 1080p 144hz, something like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($179.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B450M BAZOOKA V2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($62.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Z Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($83.13 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $914.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-23 11:16 EDT-0400


As for motherboards, if you go Ryzen, you want B450 or X470. If Intel, Z390.
 

absolutbro

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Oct 25, 2017
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What's a decent monitor these days anyway? I've been rocking a pair of 24" dells for the past ... two or three PC builds. One of them finally full died, so I'm looking to buy a pair for side by side and then have my third to go above or below.
 

I Don't Like

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What's a decent monitor these days anyway? I've been rocking a pair of 24" dells for the past ... two or three PC builds. One of them finally full died, so I'm looking to buy a pair for side by side and then have my third to go above or below.

Depends how much you want to spend. Dell S series is decent, then you got the ROG Swift and Acer Predator line if you want to spend a bit more, though I think they all have models in the mid-$400s for like 27"
 

LordDraven

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I ordered a 1440p/144 Hz monitor cause there was a great sale on it, but I have a 1070.

- Will that be enough for 90+ FPS in most games?
- If not, what would a good upgrade path be?

Also, I heard that the 2060 had really good performance in 1440p. Would that be an upgrade or a sidegrade to a 1070?
Whether it's a 2060 or 2080 both are a waste to upgrade to from a 1070 based on price and actual gain. Just wait until next gen
 

Aiervon

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Hey guys -- I'm wanting to build something similar to this, but not exact. Does anyone have a good resource they could point me toward or a person? Not sure where this best direction to go would be...also any estimates in a cost range?

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Oct 29, 2017
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Hey guys -- I'm wanting to build something similar to this, but not exact. Does anyone have a good resource they could point me toward or a person? Not sure where this best direction to go would be...also any estimates in a cost range?

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The older videos of the YouTuber JayzTwocents have a basics guide approach to custom loops.

If you know the system specs you are going for, you can go to the EKWB website -> solutions-> custom water loop configurator.

You are going to get a price that is way too high, because all their parts get a premium price tag, but you will get a list of parts.

With that list of parts you can check for other brands on Amazon, NewEgg Aquatuning.us, Performance PCs.
 

Aiervon

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The older videos of the YouTuber JayzTwocents have a basics guide approach to custom loops.

If you know the system specs you are going for, you can go to the EKWB website -> solutions-> custom water loop configurator.

You are going to get a price that is way too high, because all their parts get a premium price tag, but you will get a list of parts.

With that list of parts you can check for other brands on Amazon, NewEgg Aquatuning.us, Performance PCs.

Thanks! I'm going to unlikely be willing to take this task on, on my own for fear of completely FUBAR'ing the situation, lol. Are there generally decent builders you'd recommend for work like this?
 
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Thanks! I'm going to unlikely be willing to take this task on, on my own for fear of completely FUBAR'ing the situation, lol. Are there generally decent builders you'd recommend for work like this?

Probably the most reliable brands that either do water cooling with rigid tubing on system you configure, or also sell their own designed water cooled system are Main Gear, Digital Storm, and origin PC. Adding rigid tubing water cooling is adding about an extra $1K to your bill.

- Main Gear (Limited choice of parts, since you have to go with their custom cases. you have to chose MAINGEAR DIY for custom loops on something less than their most expensive PCs) EDIT: This is wrong DIY they send you their case for you to build

- Digital Storm (More choice, still only a handful of cases, you have to choose HydroLux Cooling)

- Origin PC (Can't change the case, and custom loop only an option in their full tower, and in their super tower cases)

- Cyberpower PC ( More options in components and cases than the other brands. You have to choose Hyper Liquid 2 exclusive series.)

There's probably others I'm forgetting about.
 
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Aiervon

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Probably the most reliable brands that either do water cooling with rigid tubing on system you configure, or also sell their own designed water cooled system. are Main Gear, Digital Storm, and origin PC. Adding rigid tubing water cooling it is adding about an extra $1K to your bill.

- Main Gear (Limited choice of parts, you have to chose MAINGEAR DIY for custom loops on something less than their most expensive PCs)

- Digital Storm (More choice, still only a handful of cases, you have to choose HydroLux Cooling)

- Origin PC (Can't change the case, and custom loop only an option in their full tower, and in their super tower cases)

- Cyberpower PC ( More options in components and cases than the other brands. You have to choose Hyper Liquid 2 exclusive series.)

There's probably others I'm forgetting about.

Shit. It'll add an additional $1K? Well, damn.

Thanks for all of the help! Appreciated!
 

Nothing

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Oct 30, 2017
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with next gen imminent is now a bad time to build a pc? esp on the cpu front since the consoles are due to get a big upgrade, will something like a 9600K no longer be suitable for 60fps gameplay?

current build is a i5 4590 + 16gb ddr3 + gtx 1080 and the cpu / memory combo is causing stuttering / hitching and sub 60fps frame rates in modern titles. would be look at a i5 9600k + 16gb ddr4 @ 3000mhz + keeping my gtx 1080. would that be a worthwhile upgrade?

thanks!
That's what I run right now. I have a 9600K and a GTX 1080 FTW3. I wanted to be modern and be able to run Battlefield V and The Division 2 on high settings at 1440p. It's excellent for current games.

But I'll be perfectly honest with you, I was wanting the 9700K or the 9900K when I built it. It looks like things are probably going to head to 8-core support in the near future with the next-gen consoles running on cut-down Ryzen 3000s. I'm still planning on getting a 9900K and selling my current cpu. (the newly uncovered vulnerabilities have put a damper on that plan)

It's a double-edged sword. The 9600K is one of the best/cost-effective ways to get current with PC gaming. Alas, it only has six cores. I wouldn't say that it's going to be a problem going forward anytime soon. But you might start to feel the effects of it in a few years. It's def not a bad time to build a PC but I'd wait to see what the Ryzen 3000 processors bring in July, first, before buying new core components right now. If you have to build today then the 9600K for ~$229 is a great choice. All those extra cores don't do a whole lot and Intel is still on top, for gaming purposes.
 
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