It is like Nvidia: You get the AMD code which you have to redeem on AMD platform (also have qualifying hardware) to get the actual game keys.
You should be able to resell keys, although no info on whether they are region locked so far.
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The PC Builders Thread ("I Need a New PC") v2
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It is like Nvidia: You get the AMD code which you have to redeem on AMD platform (also have qualifying hardware) to get the actual game keys.
You should be able to resell keys, although no info on whether they are region locked so far.
In which case, like last time it will not be recommended to buy codes from anyone if you don't have the relevant hardware. =/
It means that people might be sharing AMD accounts again which was sketchy last time and it left many code buyers without their games. So people should be careful.
It means that people might be sharing AMD accounts again which was sketchy last time and it left many code buyers without their games. So people should be careful.
I got the DNS error when I tried to run it, which has little in the way of an AMD-offered solution beyond "try a different browser". I emailed them for support recently. And yeah, reselling an AMD key if it's tied to their verification app would cause a headache for someone who doesn't have the appropriate components at all.
Still that's a fantastic promotion right now! Great for anyone who is in the market for any of the new Ryzen processors. I'd consider buying the 3600X or 3700X in the current pricing situation.
I'm not sure if the 3800X is worth it for $50 more just to get 1 additional game...but if you really wanted those boosted clockspeeds and the higher binned chip then sure. The different AMD pricing tiers actually make sense now (at Microcenter anyways...). The 3600x is still too expensive on Newegg and Amazon.
I'm not sure if the 3800X is worth it for $50 more just to get 1 additional game...but if you really wanted those boosted clockspeeds and the higher binned chip then sure. The different AMD pricing tiers actually make sense now (at Microcenter anyways...). The 3600x is still too expensive on Newegg and Amazon.
Well to be fair, assuming the seller has already done all of the hardware checks then it's fine. You do get given a MS code after all that messing around.
I gave my game pass code to a friend since I couldn't add any more time to my ultimate subscription anyway and back then they weren't offering a game.
Thank you! I had a RX 560 @ 4GB but I totally forgot I sold it & that the 3600 didn't come with integrated graphics.
Correct me if I'm wrong... The RX 5500 looks a lot like an RX 570? Throughput, memory bandwidth, TDP the same. Sold in 4GB and 8GB versions.
Selling my Fallout New Vegas collectors edition for GPU upgrade money. ;_;
How long would this card last me gaming at 1600x900 resolution with a six core processor?
8gb seems like a lot when it seems like most stuff only needs 4gb at the max on requirement listings I usually see. Upgrading from a GTX 960 that runs BL3 like dog shit, if it could last me another five years of modern gaming that would be ideal.
Trying not to spend too much though with next gen consoles looming on the horizon.
My current specs:
How long would this card last me gaming at 1600x900 resolution with a six core processor?
8gb seems like a lot when it seems like most stuff only needs 4gb at the max on requirement listings I usually see. Upgrading from a GTX 960 that runs BL3 like dog shit, if it could last me another five years of modern gaming that would be ideal.
Trying not to spend too much though with next gen consoles looming on the horizon.
My current specs:
Selling my Fallout New Vegas collectors edition for GPU upgrade money. ;_;
How long would this card last me gaming at 1600x900 resolution with a six core processor?
8gb seems like a lot when it seems like most stuff only needs 4gb at the max on requirement listings I usually see. Upgrading from a GTX 960 that runs BL3 like dog shit, if it could last me another five years of modern gaming that would be ideal.
Trying not to spend too much though with next gen consoles looming on the horizon.
My current specs:
Oof
Your CPU is holding the 960 back. Decreasing the resolution does not ease the load on the CPU as much, it mostly helps the GPU. CPU upgrade also requires new RAM/Mobo. Or maybe both CPU and GPU are holding you back @ 900p.
How many collectors editions do you have?
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Huh. So all this time, its actually been the CPU?
Unfortunately thats the only CE and I'll probably get about 175 out of it.
Funny thing is I just recently bought that motherboard too to replace an old one.
I'm pretty illiterate when it comes to PC parts so I appreciate any insight. I tried to put this one together myself years ago, couldn't figure it out and had to take it to someone else. They gave me a list of everything I did wrong and said the desktop probably would have exploded if I had figured out a way to turn it on with the way I had it set up.
They were probably full of shit, keep you coming back. There really isn't that much to it other than plugging stuff in.
There certainly isn't a lot of opportunity to blow stuff up.
It lists the 3700x under the choice of 1 game, but when I bought it on newegg, it links to the coupon that shows both games (Borderlands 3 and The Outer Worlds game codes). I imagine it's 1, but I won't know until I get the email.
Still waiting on Amazon support. They specifically have a a page setup that lists all the CPUs and GPUs, then doesn't attach the deal to any of them. It was like some Fox News reality I had to deal with, where what I see isn't actually what I see.
Still waiting on Amazon support. They specifically have a a page setup that lists all the CPUs and GPUs, then doesn't attach the deal to any of them. It was like some Fox News reality I had to deal with, where what I see isn't actually what I see.
Both CPU and GPU are bottom tier as far as minimal requirements go. Replacing one component is not going to save you from bad performance. The minimal FX CPU for Borderlands is listed as 8300, which has two extra cores while running the same speed/IPC. Your GPU kind of meets the rock bottom, and @900p it should run it even better than the standard 1080p.
*long exhale*
Doesn't look like I'm going to be able to piecemeal upgrade my way out of this one.
Probably just going to keep saving money, see what prices look like around the holidays for motherboards, CPUs and GPUs.
Or just buy used, tons of perfectly good hardware floating around, especially now that a lot of people have upgraded slightly older CPUs to Ryzen 3000.
If it's starting to sound too expensive, which it really is by the sounds of it because you need a full complete new build, then I'd start saving my money and get a PS5 in the fall if I were you. Or else you can save up ~$600 and look into getting a cheap gaming pre-built if you're dead set on having a PC.
But when money is super tight, consoles are not a bad option. You could also look into buying somebody's used rig if you wanted. Just gotta look for someone dependable who is upgrading.
Yeah, I think I'm going to just focus on the consoles and enjoy my Switch until the next big Bethesda game is released and look for something based around that.
Always got a lot of mileage out of modding their games and I'll be definitely be wanting to do that with Starfield aswell.
How does my build below look if I were to go with AMD? Quoted my potential Intel build above for reference. Over $100 less for seemingly comparable performance seems pretty nice.
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($194.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.69 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($74.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($107.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($104.98 @ Newegg)
GPU: Nvidia GTX 970 (reusing from current build)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $722.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-07 17:50 EDT-0400
you could say that, but it gets there in a very different way,
and the performance is closer to the 580, while power usage is much lower.
You can get a NVMe SSD for around the price you're paying for the 1TB MX500, the HP EX920 and the Sabrent Rocket are great choices for 1TB SSDs under $115 right now.
Good build. No suggestions other than perhaps consider an M2 drive as your windows/boot drive.
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Excellent, I think I will likely go with this then. Thanks for your input.
Ok I'm an idiot and just bought a 2070 super as an upgrade from a 2070. Gonna do some testing to see if worth it. Was gonna buy cod anyway and figure I can sell my 2070 ultra for 400 or so so not a huge deal.
My desktop PC is refusing to start up, even after swapping the power supply, and it was already long-in-the-tooth to begin with, so I'm thinking about just making my laptop my full-time machine. So I have two questions:
1. I bought an RTX 2060; it was the newest piece of hardware in the build. The laptop has a mobile 1070, so that's "good enough", but it would be nice if I could still use the 2060 at home. Is an enclosure/external adapter a good idea? Some seem to be the cost of the card by themselves. And is there anyway to have a program like Blender use both for rendering (I seem to recall something about that), or will it be one or the other?
2. Any recommendations on a dock or adapter? Something that'll simplify plugging/unplugging things like speakers, monitors, ethernet, etc. I assume Type C is fine, since my partner and I both have that on our laptops. (I didn't see if hers was Thunderbolt, but I think it is.)
And the obvious follow-up question: Is there a non-crap product that does both of these?
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It looks like I'd have to buy a $300 dock to house a $300 graphics card, unless I went with some DIY situation. That sucks a bit, since I do like the OBS streaming benefits of RTX, but I guess I'll have to deal.
1. I bought an RTX 2060; it was the newest piece of hardware in the build. The laptop has a mobile 1070, so that's "good enough", but it would be nice if I could still use the 2060 at home. Is an enclosure/external adapter a good idea? Some seem to be the cost of the card by themselves. And is there anyway to have a program like Blender use both for rendering (I seem to recall something about that), or will it be one or the other?
2. Any recommendations on a dock or adapter? Something that'll simplify plugging/unplugging things like speakers, monitors, ethernet, etc. I assume Type C is fine, since my partner and I both have that on our laptops. (I didn't see if hers was Thunderbolt, but I think it is.)
And the obvious follow-up question: Is there a non-crap product that does both of these?
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It looks like I'd have to buy a $300 dock to house a $300 graphics card, unless I went with some DIY situation. That sucks a bit, since I do like the OBS streaming benefits of RTX, but I guess I'll have to deal.
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I'm thinking about upgrading from a 4690k to a ryzen 3600, however I feel like I'm not going to feel the impact of a CPU upgrade and thus make me feel like my purchase was unnecessary. Would you guys recommend the upgrade or say that I'm wasting my time? I think it makes sense for me to make the upgrade alone if it means leaving such an old architecture and joining one that not even a year old. I know in BFV alone, I should receive a decent bump in performance but other than that I'm not sure I'll notice much. Keep in mind this also means a move from DDR3 to DDR4 if that means much.
What do y'all think?
What do y'all think?
Hi all,
1) What's your budget and currency?
Under 2500, so somewhat in "money is no object" territory.
2) What do you want to use the computer for?
Gaming/media. This is going to live in the front room on the TV.
3) When do you plan to purchase the parts and build it?
As soon as possible.
4) Are you reusing any parts or are you building a completely new computer?
Completely from scratch, my first one in years.
5) Do you only need the computer itself or do you need accessories, such as a monitor, mouse, keyboard, and speakers?
Just the computer, at least initially.
6) Are you interested in overclocking?
Only in what I can get stable on air cooling. Not interested in water cooling.
I've taken an initial stab, based on the starting points in the OP:
I've made sure that the parts should all fit in the case (specifically the CPU cooler and the graphics card).
Even though the SSD is relatively midrange, even the low range M.2 SSDs blow my old SATA Samsung 840 out of the water.
Note that I already have the OS available so I don't need to buy a new license.
How's it look?
1) What's your budget and currency?
Under 2500, so somewhat in "money is no object" territory.
2) What do you want to use the computer for?
Gaming/media. This is going to live in the front room on the TV.
3) When do you plan to purchase the parts and build it?
As soon as possible.
4) Are you reusing any parts or are you building a completely new computer?
Completely from scratch, my first one in years.
5) Do you only need the computer itself or do you need accessories, such as a monitor, mouse, keyboard, and speakers?
Just the computer, at least initially.
6) Are you interested in overclocking?
Only in what I can get stable on air cooling. Not interested in water cooling.
I've taken an initial stab, based on the starting points in the OP:
I've made sure that the parts should all fit in the case (specifically the CPU cooler and the graphics card).
Even though the SSD is relatively midrange, even the low range M.2 SSDs blow my old SATA Samsung 840 out of the water.
Note that I already have the OS available so I don't need to buy a new license.
How's it look?
That is nice. I may have to try and get one myself.
That aside... can anyone recommend good quiet / silent PSUs?
That aside... can anyone recommend good quiet / silent PSUs?
No big changes for me to suggest, really. I might suggest looking into Noctua Chromax 140mm fans for a bit more airflow for an imperceptible amount of noise, maybe an EVGA Supernova PSU for a bit more reliability, but honestly your choices should be find. Any reason you're not going all out for a 2080Ti? Should have room in your budget for that, but if you're saving for another upgrade that makes sense.
I think you answered it yourself. It depends on the games you are playing. You'll have a nice bump in some, nothing in others. Factor in Mainboard cost, ram pricing plus the time rebuilding needs I don't need think it's nesacary. If you are satisfied with game performance, maybe wait till 2020 and see what's on the market then.
But sometimes the upgrade itch needs to be scratched...
Hands down, beQuiet!
They're more expensive than many other PSUs, but imo they're the best.
So Jedi: Fallen Order PC requirements just came out with 32GB recommended. I guess my brand new upgrade is already behind with only 16GB ram?
If I buy another 16GB does it have to be the same brand and/or timing of my existing ram, because it was pricey.
If I buy another 16GB does it have to be the same brand and/or timing of my existing ram, because it was pricey.
I really wouldn't worry. I'm pretty sure it's just them covering themselves.
I've got 16gb and I've never seen any game come remotely close to filling it up.
Hell I used to use 8gb up until the other month, and that was mostly fine. Just had to make sure my web browser was shut.
You can reactivate those hobo Windows keys from ebay on a different hardware using the virtual agent.
I wouldn't. You're spending so much money on new mobo, new ram, etc. I would either get a 3700 or not upgrade at all.
That's a lot. I didn't expect to see this console generation. Wonder if it is a mistake though.
Just to answer your question: It's best to get the exact same ram kit again. But as already stated, chances are high that you won't need to.
Seems to do pretty well in CS:GO.
(for anyone not getting the reference; Linus Tech Tips has a video showing a Ryzen chip outclassing the corresponding Intel chip in CS:GO. So it's "never been better", except you know, when it is).
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If you want a silent PSU, instead of paying through the nose for a fanless one, buy one with a fan than spins down at low loads (which is most of them these days) at a slightly higher wattage than you would normally, so that it always stays in the range where the fan stays off. I bought a Corsair RM750x, and I don't think the fan has turned on once (and I have an overclocked 8700K and 1080Ti, so it's not a low power draw).
Hello ERA,
I am looking for some advice/thoughts. I just put together a decent gaming rig (3700x, 2060SUPER) that I want to take advantage of for some cozy couch gaming on my TV in another room. I already have ethernet wired to both areas, I am just having trouble finding the best, yet cheapest route to stream to the TV.
I was planning on using the SteamLink software or Moonlight to get this done. Would the best route be to just buy a SteamLink ($65 on Amazon) or would Pi4 be a better option? The current game I am thinking of playing is Control using a DS4 controller.
Thanks!
I am looking for some advice/thoughts. I just put together a decent gaming rig (3700x, 2060SUPER) that I want to take advantage of for some cozy couch gaming on my TV in another room. I already have ethernet wired to both areas, I am just having trouble finding the best, yet cheapest route to stream to the TV.
I was planning on using the SteamLink software or Moonlight to get this done. Would the best route be to just buy a SteamLink ($65 on Amazon) or would Pi4 be a better option? The current game I am thinking of playing is Control using a DS4 controller.
Thanks!
I'm still gaming at 1080p, so the performance headspace on the 2080ti is mostly useless.
You want the same manufacturing revision/die at least, but dunno what happens if they have different XMP profiles. Manual timings should work on the same dies/revisions because the underlying chips are the same. And chances are that the same dies are not going to differ vastly in price unless you got one of those G.Skill Golden Diamond Plated RGB fashion pieces.
Me?
I render and simulate in 3D, so there is no such thing as too much RAM there
Noctua Chromax Black....
Now it looks like every other cooler. I think I might be weirdo as I come to really appreciate the beige and brown of Nuctua fans. I recently bought one of their new blacks fans and after installing it I thought it looked out of place in my case. Lol.
Now it looks like every other cooler. I think I might be weirdo as I come to really appreciate the beige and brown of Nuctua fans. I recently bought one of their new blacks fans and after installing it I thought it looked out of place in my case. Lol.
I don't think that I could eyeroll any harder to this comment.
Keep the Ryzen bullshit coming though. It's nice to have a list of names.
That's...very interesting.
Anyone else in situation like me with something like 16gb of Team Dark Pro (B-Die) and you're hesitant to buy any more of it bc it doesn't have RGB? (how silly is that)
LOL
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